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The Genesis Seal

Kingfisher2926 said:
You are right that I do know the results (in advance). However, the fact that I 'pick combinations that seem relevant' only begs the question: How come such a limited pot of combinations fits the purpose?
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It doesn't.

The Hebrew alphabet contains twenty-two letters. Your Genesis Seal contains sixty-four instances of those arranged in an eight-by-eight square. Even accepting that it's possible that one or two of the letters from said alphabet were left out, I'd say it's reasonable to assume that you have at least eighty or ninety percent of the entire Hebrew alphabet in that square. It isn't a question of whether or not you can find any words in there. It's just a matter of picking and choosing what words you want to use to support anything you might want to say about it and then saying "ooh, look, this word appears in here! look at the weird pattern of letters".

Out of curiosity, though, Kingfisher, have you ever tried this with any other literary works? Or any other languages? I'm pretty sure that you could come up with something just as fascinating and impressive and earth-shaking with, say, the original text of the Iliad, or 1984, or something along those lines.

Kingfisher2926 said:
I detect a sad lack of wonder and surprise that this supposedly limited pot is able to marry together so many enigmatic, simultaneous episodes in human history.
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I see a sad lack of comprehension that all you're doing is throwing letters together in a box and picking out the ones that you want to see.
 
Pure Argent said:
Out of curiosity, though, Kingfisher, have you ever tried this with any other literary works? Or any other languages? I'm pretty sure that you could come up with something just as fascinating and impressive and earth-shaking with, say, the original text of the Iliad, or 1984, or something along those lines.
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I asked him to do something like this many, many posts ago. His refusal shows, IMO, that he is fixated on finding something he deems significant in Genesis, and thendrawing a bull's-eye around it. Texas Sharpshooter fallacy, taken to a ridiculous extreme.

ETA: It was in post #534 that I set out a few minimum conditions for a test of his theory that Genesis is somehow special in this regard.
 
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Jon. said:
I asked him to do something like this many, many posts ago. His refusal shows, IMO, that he is fixated on finding something he deems significant in Genesis, and thendrawing a bull's-eye around it. Texas Sharpshooter fallacy, taken to a ridiculous extreme.

ETA: It was in post #534 that I set out a few minimum conditions for a test of his theory that Genesis is somehow special in this regard.
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I figured I wasn't the first to ask. Also figured I'd end up getting ignored.

Seems like a pretty accurate summary of things.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
As a first stab, the obvious words are:
womb womb womb aka maiden maiden
sword sword
spear
bread
wine
bulrush

The womb/maiden obviously has multiple uses in the literature. But the words themselves are only static components.

Then there is the symbolic distribution of the letter vav, that imitates water, first as a lake, then as a river (named Lac).

The word for sword is distributed in the G1 Square, but becomes complete in G2. Hence the forging in one story, and the re-making in the other.

Then there is the image of a menorah (candelabrum) that also contains the image of a chalice.

The rest is down to the imagination of each author, leading to variations that can only be explained by their common source and inspiration.
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I think I can interpret this:


Kingfishers post >ETCGT*> The Genesis Seal is the most important thing Evah.

*ET Corn Gods Transform
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
You also once said:


You are right that I do know the results (in advance). However, the fact that I 'pick combinations that seem relevant' only begs the question: How come such a limited pot of combinations fits the purpose? I detect a sad lack of wonder and surprise that this supposedly limited pot is able to marry together so many enigmatic, simultaneous episodes in human history.
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What do you mean? Wouldn't it be more surprising if a lot of combinations fit?

Anyhow, you are also pick events that fit. In short, you have a whole lot of combinations and a whole lot of events to pick from. Small wonder that some of them fit together. Imagine a big box of assorted nuts, and a big box of assorted bolts: There will be some that fit.

The sad lack of wonder is because we are realists.

Hans
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
You also once said:


You are right that I do know the results (in advance). However, the fact that I 'pick combinations that seem relevant' only begs the question: How come such a limited pot of combinations fits the purpose? I detect a sad lack of wonder and surprise that this supposedly limited pot is able to marry together so many enigmatic, simultaneous episodes in human history.
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It's not a very limited pot of combinations. Your mathematical patterns are extremely sketchy, ranging from mathematical formulae to references in historical text and even to pictures which you think kind of look like things. There are millions of possible combinations of numbers in an 8x8 grid which could match a bit of a historical text, or fit part of a formula of some description, or vaguely look like something. Hell, just imagine the combinations of numbers which would fit a bible verse and chapter. You're finding combinations so easily because you are allowing an extremely wide range of options for what you consider to be designed, rather than random. It's Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy, as has already been explained to you.

If you were able to make a prediction, such as "I believe Leonardo da Vinci's helicopter design used calculations from this pattern", and you were then able to go back and find actual instructions for a helicopter, you would be onto something. But you can't do that, because this is actually a random set of letters that you have become so invested in, you cannot accept that you're deluded because it would mean admitting to yourself that so much effort expended was a waste of time, and that would be very difficult to take even for the strongest of characters. I only hope that after a while, you realise that you have not, in fact, cracked a secret code that has somehow influenced all of history, but have merely deluded yourself just as millions of others have done before you. Good luck.
 
Pure Argent said:
It doesn't.

The Hebrew alphabet contains twenty-two letters. Your Genesis Seal contains sixty-four instances of those arranged in an eight-by-eight square. Even accepting that it's possible that one or two of the letters from said alphabet were left out, I'd say it's reasonable to assume that you have at least eighty or ninety percent of the entire Hebrew alphabet in that square. It isn't a question of whether or not you can find any words in there. It's just a matter of picking and choosing what words you want to use to support anything you might want to say about it and then saying "ooh, look, this word appears in here! look at the weird pattern of letters".

Out of curiosity, though, Kingfisher, have you ever tried this with any other literary works? Or any other languages? I'm pretty sure that you could come up with something just as fascinating and impressive and earth-shaking with, say, the original text of the Iliad, or 1984, or something along those lines.



I see a sad lack of comprehension that all you're doing is throwing letters together in a box and picking out the ones that you want to see.
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I did him one better,I generated a random string of letters and was easily able to (using various methods) get several religous words trying to illustrate how it's no different than from what he is doing.

For fun I present the following: The face(only) letters on an american pack of playing cards:

[Bicycle (R) trusted since 1885 (R) playing cards standard]

10:00 time limit find as many religious phrases as possible. :cool:
 
Nay_Sayer said:
I did him one better,I generated a random string of letters and was easily able to (using various methods) get several religous words trying to illustrate how it's no different than from what he is doing.

For fun I present the following: The face(only) letters on an american pack of playing cards:

[Bicycle (R) trusted since 1885 (R) playing cards standard]

10:00 time limit find as many religious phrases as possible. :cool:
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How'd he react?
 
Pure Argent said:
How'd he react?
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He asked me what my method was for picking my words(I initially thought he meant my method for choosing the letters I did,Which were random),For example:

T H L E P L F L B O Every other letter spells out hello.

But my method was not relevant as any method used to gleam words from a wall of letters is rendered moot,You're bound to get something somewhere.
 
dafydd said:
In Kingfisher's fantasy world.
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In fairness if you lived in Blackburn, like Kingfisher2926, you'd construct a fantasy world where you were the hero as a distraction from the wretchedness of your own existence.

It's that or start making a noose. ;)
 

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Kingfisher2926 said:
Some years ago, when half the world was clamouring for new angles on the DaVinci Code fiasco, I happened upon an article written by a Dr. Frank Lynn Meshberger. This persuaded me, for a time, to take a small interest in the works of Leonardo’s younger contemporary, Michelangelo.

Dr. Meshberger’s article has nothing to do with conspiracies or Grails, or even bible codes; though it does focus on a hidden meaning in a fresco of Michelangelo’s in the Sistine Chapel. The full article may be seen here:

http://www.wellcorps.com/Explaining-The-Hidden-Meaning-Of-Michelangelos-Creation-of-Adam.html

The good Doctor’s hypothesis, that Michelangelo’s Creation of Adam accurately reflects the anatomy of a human brain, is quite convincing, and mostly plausible. Though I draw the line at the idea that Michelangelo could have known anything about neural synapses.
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Nope this is ridiculous.
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2010...-human-brainstem-is-depicted-in-image-of-god/

Not convincing in the least and implausible.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
The words ‘wisdom’ and ‘understanding’ are used together in a very instructive way at the end of Revelation Chapter 13, thus:
This calls for wisdom; let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
In my post #654, I suggested that the number 666 is used there to represent the physical body (the beast), a condition of human life that applies equally to everyone - the beast in us all - rather than a specific, evil individual. The Cathars appear to have fully embraced this interpretation.
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Nope watch this
SUM (I am in romish)

60+6+600 Ta Daaa
 
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