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The Genesis Seal

Kingfisher2926 said:
That's a shame, since the JREF forum needs people who are willing to assess rationally the evidence, the whole evidence and nothing but the evidence.
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I will invest time in investigating something that appears plausible and interesting.

Your work is neither.
 
marduk said:
so a question
q. Show any character in history was aware of this with direct evidence (i.e. Not your suspicions)

i will keep asking this question, if you refuse to answer, we will all know youre making it up
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11th time you have proven your claims to be an utter failure
:D
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
Try not to get hung up on the supernatural origin question. The Genesis Seal should have intrinsic interest to anyone wanting to know more about human history. It should be of very wide interest that the Seal phenomenon (even if accidental) has affected some prominent shakers and movers of the past.
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No, it shouldn't.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
That would be because I have hardly scratched the surface so far. But what about after I have shown 50 times as many related emergent content?
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I couldn't care less.

Even if you were able to establish your point (whatever that is), I couldn't care less.

As it is, I can't even muster a yawn.
 
Marduk said:
that'd be something, as the angels weren't named in any text until after 550BCE and for the purposes in this exercise Kingfisger is pretending that the text was dictated by God around a thousand years earlier. Personally I would need it to go through a list of my favourite fast food restaurants to prove it was supernatural, along with the prices and names of the franchise mascots

:D
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Is Taco Bell divine or infernal?
 
First things first, my method was blind chance. I make no claims to a connection between the Genesis Seal and the Ulam spiral. All that did was prompt me to think in a new way about something else. Just how much method is needed to find one's way around a well-designed ard gallery. I'm not offering scientific rigour here, only a window onto the most beautiful vista I ever saw.
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You've never been to an art gallery with a pair of scientists. We would have had it mapped out perfectly, except I like middle to late Renaissance paintings and my lady likes Impressionism and Minimalism. So we ended up with TWO maps.

And by method I don't mean "How did you find this?" What I mean is, "How does it work?" There's a major geophysical theory that was inspired by two guys getting so drunk they couldn't keep their beers in the cans long enough to drink them, and chugging the whole time (the Bear Can Experiment, if you're curious). What I mean is, how does it WORK? To be anything but confirmation bias, there has to be some systematic approach to the text, which reveals the meaning. All codes work that way--that's why they can be broken, and why they're comprehensible to the recipient. Without some system, even if you're right you're left with nothing more than random words and the vague feeling that there's something to find here.
 
Dinwar said:
You've never been to an art gallery with a pair of scientists. We would have had it mapped out perfectly, except I like middle to late Renaissance paintings and my lady likes Impressionism and Minimalism. So we ended up with TWO maps.

And by method I don't mean "How did you find this?" What I mean is, "How does it work?" There's a major geophysical theory that was inspired by two guys getting so drunk they couldn't keep their beers in the cans long enough to drink them, and chugging the whole time (the Bear Can Experiment, if you're curious). What I mean is, how does it WORK? To be anything but confirmation bias, there has to be some systematic approach to the text, which reveals the meaning. All codes work that way--that's why they can be broken, and why they're comprehensible to the recipient. Without some system, even if you're right you're left with nothing more than random words and the vague feeling that there's something to find here.
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I've never been to an ard gallery. If the Genesis Seal is the most beautiful vista that he ever saw then he ought to get out more.
 
Kingfisher2926 said:
Subjunctive, I think.
As to Why? I expect eventually to have made a case that the Genesis Seal has been the cause of some intriguing chapters in human history. Chapters that contain great holes the same shape as the Seal. In other words, there are historical enigmas that presently lack a coherent explanation, where the Genesis Seal can provide most of the answers.
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So all you really said was...
Kingfisher2926 said:
Try not to get hung up on the supernatural origin question. The Genesis Seal should might, in my opinion, have intrinsic some interest to anyone wanting to know more about human history some people. It should might, in my opinion, be of very wide some interest that the Seal phenomenon (even if accidental) has affected some prominent shakers and movers of the past could have any effect at all, as improbable as that sounds.
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...as there is no weight behind your 'should's at all. It reminds me of a joke they used to tell about my company's sales force (though I suspect it's been applied to most large corporations). There's usually a bunch of setup and then something like...
How does a <large corporation> salesman make love? He sits on the end of the bed and tells you how great it's going to be when you get it.​
Except no one's buying. You've given us no reason to think there will ever be a there there. Ever.
 
dafydd said:
Sigh. Super Duper Scrabble. Somebody contrived it, how can chance play a part?
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Just for amusement, I borrowed this first post to make my own seal. I had to add two letters from dafydd's name to complete the seal since the post is only 62 characters long.
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I believe you can see that if we're looking for compact patterns, then you can't get any better than overlaps. And if you're looking for relevant phrases, well, you be the judge.
 
I don't know how to make the lovely graphs others have done, but here are the first 64 characters of the Kumulipo.

O ke au i kahuli wela ka honua
O ke au i kahuli lole ka lani
O ke au i kuka‘iaka ka la
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When laying these out in a seal, I found la - sun, 9 times, au - period of time, 8 times, ha - breath, 6 times, kaa - crumbling, 3 times, and lea - happiness, twice (intersecting each other, no less!). I also found instances of koa - warrior, kai - sea, honu - turtle, lae - wisdom, nala - a type of weaving, haka - to make a hole, kaka - to clean, kala - money (How did they know what would lead to the downfall of the monarchy?), kaku - portion of a woven mat, Lilo - Lilo (OMG! A Hawaiian Disney character!), and many more.

So, how is this not more impressive than your example? At least this one has two clear examples of predicting future events.
 
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