The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis

thread still alive?

I thought it would have been locked by now like they do on the cosmoquest forum. Design the rules to favor censorship, then claim the people violate the rules. Its so transparent!

Good on you international skeptics! At least you haven't stooped to their level!
 
Why on Earth should they close your thread? Nonsense and ignorance of the laws of physics is not a crime, and is not a threat to anybody. You seem to behave yourself and stay within the rules, so you should be safe.

But why do you never address the criticism that we present? In our eyes, that makes you look bad, and we strongly suspect that you are aware that you do not understand physics at all, but you close your eyes and stride boldly forward into nothing.
 
So Jeffrey, any predictions or potential falsifying observations for your theory?

Anything?


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jeffreyw said:
I thought it would have been locked by now like they do on the cosmoquest forum. Design the rules to favor censorship, then claim the people violate the rules. Its so transparent!

Good on you international skeptics! At least you haven't stooped to their level!
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And too bad for you- you haven't risen to the level of this one. Keep trying though; once you've understood the concept of "evidence," you're getting there.
 
steenkh said:
Why on Earth should they close your thread?
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IIRC, that forum requires people who post threads in their "against the mainstream" subforum to actual stay and participate in the thread, answer the questions that are asked, etc.
 
Which, based on behaviour here, jefferyw doesn't want to do; he appears to be preaching, not discussing.
 
steenkh said:
But why do you never address the criticism that we present? In our eyes, that makes you look bad, and we strongly suspect that you are aware that you do not understand physics at all, but you close your eyes and stride boldly forward into nothing.
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Cut Professor Wolynski a little slack, the man is still very busy analyzing the flood of “time stamped documents” he received:

"Electric Universe Challenge"
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289203

Oh and by the way, here is Jeffrey’s all time favorite video -- featuring Bill Gaede and Stephen Crothers; his two hero’s – which explains why Jeffrey is so hopelessly confused:

"Crothers/Gaede: What is Physics?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voXNBs6ls7Q
 
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phunk said:
IIRC, that forum requires people who post threads in their "against the mainstream" subforum to actual stay and participate in the thread, answer the questions that are asked, etc.
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Which on the one hand is fine, but on the other the "questions" and other participants are generally quite derisive, and no effort is made to keep their behavior in check. So the net impression is that they're grade-A jerks.


Don't worry, jeff. We take the approach that even the crankiest of ideas at least deserve a listen to*, and are often more entertaining to read than some of our established members' attempts at "humor."

*Although it's important to note that "deserve a listen to" does not in any way imply that we will listen respectfully, or take your ideas seriously. You can say what you want (within the limits of the MA), but so can we. Some people get that confused.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
Which on the one hand is fine, but on the other the "questions" and other participants are generally quite derisive, and no effort is made to keep their behavior in check. So the net impression is that they're grade-A jerks.
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I think that's sort of by design. Cosmoquest does not exist for the promotion of your crackpot theory. It does not exist to host the interminable arguments between unteachable, borderline-troll crackpot crown and the "someone was wrong on the internet" crowd that enjoys arguing with them.

It exists for mainstream astronomers, amateur mainstream astronomers, and fans thereof to talk about mainstream astronomy.

If you have a crackpot theory you want to draw attention to, argue about, etc., Cosmoquest is informally telling you to take it somewhere else. Therefore, I think the "Against The Mainstream" forum is useless almost by design, both to make sure that the crackpots get the hint and go away (or to make their shooing-away easier on the moderators), and to discourage the argue-with-the-troll-for-fun crowd from drawing out the threads forever. So yeah, it's a little purgatory with strict rules and only three or four derisive posters. It ought to be a big sign saying "don't post your crackpot theory here" and I don't know why people keep posting.
 
jeffreyw said:
I thought it would have been locked by now like they do on the cosmoquest forum.
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Different forum, different rules, jeffreyw.
Cosmoquest has a specific section for strange ideas called "Against The Mainstream". The rules are simple and rational. They are based on the simple and widely used principle that the proposer of an idea has to be able (and willing!) to defend their idea coherently. Basically the advocate of the idea
* has to present the idea in the thread.
* needs to answer questions that they are asked.
* has 30 days to defend their idea but at any time can ask the thread to be suspended while they research the answers.

ETA: Advice for ATM Idea Advocates - Read before posting in ATM
 
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jeffreyw said:
I thought it would have been locked by now like they do on the cosmoquest forum. Design the rules to favor censorship, then claim the people violate the rules. Its so transparent!

Good on you international skeptics! At least you haven't stooped to their level!
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Huh? Is this Argument by Martyrdom?
 
The "Impossible Planet", Kepler 78b

Here I have made a video overviewing the "impossible planet", Kepler 78b.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bwK2EYVfa0

It is not "impossible". It just means they don't understand stellar evolution or "planet formation". They have yet to understand the "planet" is the evolving/evolved star, they were never mutually exclusive. Or put in other words, the "star" is the young, hot planet.

I'm guessing its going to take another 50 years before they realize it.
 
Gliese 433 System

I needed to buy markers which had more juice in them, I think I'll re-do this video, but anyways. The Gliese 433 system and its two evolving/older stars called "planets" can be accurately placed inside of the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram.

They are normal stars in normal stages of evolution, not "planets" as per establishment dogma formed in "disks".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQCbg3cPyzM
 
Oh I forgot to post the two physical vapor deposition presentations!

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR-heDZqXjQ

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7chDcQF0twU

It is how stars begin core formation when they are very young. Of course establishment dogma will ridicule this and call it "pseudoscience" but the fact is that this process is widely used in industry, and is happening in young, evolving stars. They form their iron/nickel composite cores as they age.
 
jeffreyw said:
Oh I forgot to post the two physical vapor deposition presentations!

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR-heDZqXjQ

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7chDcQF0twU

It is how stars begin core formation when they are very young. Of course establishment dogma will ridicule this and call it "pseudoscience" but the fact is that this process is widely used in industry, and is happening in young, evolving stars. They form their iron/nickel composite cores as they age.
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There is an "industry" that uses vapor deposition to make stellar cores?
 
jeffreyw said:
Oh I forgot to post the two physical vapor deposition presentations!

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR-heDZqXjQ

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7chDcQF0twU

It is how stars begin core formation when they are very young. Of course establishment dogma will ridicule this and call it "pseudoscience" but the fact is that this process is widely used in industry, and is happening in young, evolving stars. They form their iron/nickel composite cores as they age.
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Sorry but you're pet imaginings will never even be recognized as pseudoscience.
 
jeffreyw said:
Of course establishment dogma will ridicule this
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Sorry, you were misinformed. Establishment dogma is not watching your YouTube videos. They are too busy watching a video of a baby turtle eating a raspberry. (It's cute!)

Truth be told, it's really hard to get ridiculed by "establishment dogma". Robitaille and/or Crothers came to the APS April meeting---that's old-school, hard core, shoe leather ridicule-hunting---and I didn't see anyone so much as snicker at their poster. It's a crowded field.
 
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