The Freeman Movement and England

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hal5001 said:
My Dad was in the UK freemasons for a few years. He joined because he thought he could get some contacts for his business. He said that the reality was it was a club for mainly lonely old men who wanted company and the sumit of their political power was sending out a bit of money here and there to widows of dead members. My Dad left, disillusioned that there were no Soprano style deals going on.
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Should have known better if he joined for that reason, 5 minutes of research would have saved him months of trouble.
 
LightinDarkness said:
Should have known better if he joined for that reason, 5 minutes of research would have saved him months of trouble.
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At least around here, in addition to the lonely old men, there have been some fairly prominent business and professional people who belong. My dad is a 33rd, and he always wanted me to join for networking, but I never wanted to (despite the fact that I was in DeMolay).

Side note: one time a friend of mine who'd recently become a fundamentalist Christian asked me and some other friends of ours, "Does anybody know anything about the Masons?" Before I could answer, he started parroting several Masonic conspiracies that he'd heard Josh McDowellWP spouting off about on his radio show. I and one other guy (who knew my dad) about laughed ourselves onto the floor, especially when my friend said that the 33rd Degree were the leaders of the conspiracy. Finally he noticed that we were laughing at him, and asked what was funny. After I told him, he shut up, but a few weeks later he said to me, "I still believe the things that Josh McDowell said about the Masons, because he wouldn't have said that if it weren't true." :rolleyes:
 
Lovely. But back to the topic at hand, (Freeloaders on the land):

I would urge anyone in need of a good laugh to look at
A rather silly place
It seems to be getting more stupid by the day.

There you can read whack-a-gibber-nuttery like this:
Precisely. Your superb analogy about paedophilia in the JAH thread has been neatly exposed and duplicated in, as usual, tautological fashion by trolls who are keen to make us toe the line to stupid fines which criminalise us and seize our assets and possessions. You are quite astute to see the tactic employed and rebut with the reasonable suggestion to which they know fully well Rob is referring to.

You must have radiation at airports and scanners that perv your children's and your pubic parts because the twin towers were bombed by Arab (coveniently holders of lots of black gold) terrorists. This is for your own good. Neatly exposing you to a basic mind control technique - hypnotising you to accept a moral agenda of bombing the Arab of all his black gold. Puppet leaders in their place who will sell the black gold cheaply to illuminati cronies and rape the people of that land bone dry. This in turn causes the dissension and anger we see displayed here on this very board and wahay people are in a constant state of bickering and war, thus needing a govt and court to sort out the fighting.
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Another idiot on Ickes going over the same stupid point
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059987846&postcount=83
Therein lies the sleight of hand - the fraudulent failure to disclose the fact that the alleged borrower is the one who funds the alleged loan. THE BANKS LEND YOU NOTHING. YOUR PROMISE TO PAY IS WHAT CREATES THE FUNDS. (Just like the promise to pay on a Bank Note, of course). We are the creditors, my friends, the banksters are merely extenders of our own credit who commit fraud each and every minute of the day by enslaving people to imaginary debts which are ratchet up ridiculous interest rates.
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By his own argument wouldnt his refusal to honour the promise make the funds disappear and as such make his claim on the property invalid as he didnt have any funds to buy it with in the first place.
He bought it on a "promise" and now his promise is broken then so is the contract and he must give back the house to its original owner, who if Im right must give back the one hes living in as well as he spent the promise of the original buyer and.......oh never mind.

PS I am using freeman logic* here

* if such a thing exists :rolleyes:
 
Yet another honourable soul wishes to take solice in the freeman movement.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060137241&postcount=1
I bought a laptop, but got a discount if i agrred to take a dongal form vodaphone on a two year contract. The Dongal was stolen from me after about a year. I asked vodaphone to cancel the dongal, but they would not cancel the contract claiming i had to buy my way out.

Anyway after a bit of negligence from me, i got a letter from a debt collector asking for the remainder of the contract. I am quite happy to pay vodaphone, but really dont want to enter into any agreements with this agency....... what can i do??
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So he sulked and refused to pay , now threatened he wants to pay, but not to the debt collector.

maybe he should have been happy to pay Vodaphone in the first place.
 
Hmmmmmm, I thought the laptop was free when you signed up for an expensive mobile phone contract. So, perhaps he wanted a free laptop, tried to get out of the phone contract by claiming the dongal was stolen (like that'll matter) failed miserably and now has to pay the mobile phone company.
 
He is unlikely to get out of the contract.
What he could do is to get a new dongle and simcard for it.
The fee for that would not be much compared to paying another year for nothing.
 
Toke said:
He is unlikely to get out of the contract.
What he could do is to get a new dongle and simcard for it.
The fee for that would not be much compared to paying another year for nothing.
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Freemen don't want to pay for another year for nothing, they want to pay nothing for another year.
 
TjW said:
Freemen don't want to pay for another year for nothing, they want to pay nothing for another year.
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I wonder if phonecompanies and collection agencies are more responsive to freeman logic than courts?:rolleyes:
 
Dumber than a Freeman

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1416262/Court-refuses-trial-by-combat.html
 
Horatius said:
You know, I think I'd actually support this....


Of course, he fails to realize that, under the ancient law he cites, the Champion could be anyone who was willing to step up to fight for the side of the King. I'm pretty sure I'm a lot better with a katana than this putz.
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Which is of course why I have to wonder what planet he lives on to think that trial by combat is not a violation of human rights legislation.

Now that I think about it, how much more would such fines be, if the state had to contract out Champions to deal with these jackasses. Don't they want smaller government?
 
Horatius said:
You know, I think I'd actually support this....


Of course, he fails to realize that, under the ancient law he cites, the Champion could be anyone who was willing to step up to fight for the side of the King. I'm pretty sure I'm a lot better with a katana than this putz.
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Assault rifles at ten paces...........
Alas Trial by Combat was abolished in Britain in 1819. It might work in the USA..........
 
cwalner said:
Which is of course why I have to wonder what planet he lives on to think that trial by combat is not a violation of human rights legislation.

Now that I think about it, how much more would such fines be, if the state had to contract out Champions to deal with these jackasses. Don't they want smaller government?
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I believe English authorities have access to people quite confident with Gurkha knives, who may settle for a lower fee for representing the crown than laymen.:rolleyes:
It would really cut down on the repeat silly lawsuits. :D
 
cwalner said:
Now that I think about it, how much more would such fines be, if the state had to contract out Champions to deal with these jackasses. Don't they want smaller government?
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Toke said:
I believe English authorities have access to people quite confident with Gurkha knives, who may settle for a lower fee for representing the crown than laymen.:rolleyes:
It would really cut down on the repeat silly lawsuits. :D
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I was about to say....I'm pretty sure I could find people who would volunteer for this, just to test various notions they have about how sword fights actually work in real life.

Add in the old rule about how the winner gets ALL of the loser's stuff, and it pretty much funds itself...[/ModestProposal]
 
Toke said:
I believe English authorities have access to people quite confident with Gurkha knives, who may settle for a lower fee for representing the crown than laymen.:rolleyes:
It would really cut down on the repeat silly lawsuits. :D
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A whole regiment of them, already paid to fight for the Crown.
 
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