The Freeman Movement and England

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tobjai said:
it wasn't an evasion... What is considered "a driver" in Germany has never had a distinction between commercial and private. And frankly - if you ask me - even in the English sphere it matters not a bit. Because only a "Person" can ever be defined as such, not a human being.
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So in FOTLandia, speed limts are optional for all "non-corporations," which means that individuals operating motor vehicles can drive any speed they want? I can drive 80km/hour past an elementary school when the children are getting out?



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tobjai is dancing around at the moment due to being pressured for some more details.
I think we will probably find that his "getting off" with the speeding offence will hinge on him either not being the driver or a procedural error in paperwork.

I hope its not for his sake.
 
Mojo said:
Are you claiming that a human being cannot drive a car? Anyway, I was asking you in English: were you driving the car?

I'm pretty certain that as far as road traffic offenses are concerned, it is the person actually driving the car who is held responsible. Whether it is "private" or "commercial" is not relevant, so naturally no distinction is made.
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A human being can do pretty much anything (incl. driving a car). BUT a human being cannot be charged by the supposed authorities for they have only authority over the fiction with the same name.

So whether its driving or travelling... potatoes "petatos" ...I'm not sure why people incl. some wannabe FMOTL are wasting their breath over this. So lets close this useless argument right here, shall we?
 
BUT a human being cannot be charged by the supposed authorities for they have only authority over the fiction with the same name.
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Thats great news , i have just butchered the entire family next door to me.

So all I have to do now is make sure my legal name didn't leave any prints and Im in the clear.
thanks tobjai
 
tobjai said:
it wasn't an evasion... What is considered "a driver" in Germany has never had a distinction between commercial and private. And frankly - if you ask me - even in the English sphere it matters not a bit. Because only a "Person" can ever be defined as such, not a human being.
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In the English speaking world, all human beings are persons.
 
microsoft photo editor, come on tobjai , stop messing about, i know freemen are notoriously silly, but lets not push the point home to hard.
 
Tobjal it would seem you forgot to answer my question

So how can I - in your world a slave - leave my master - the country I'm a citizen of and move to another country and not pay income tax to either? (there is no income tax in Bahrain)

What sort of slave are you if you just leave, find work in another place and legally don't owe anything? Please explain how your theory accounts for my being able to not pay my taxes?
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Ladewig said:
Thank you for you previous responses. You answered all my questions and I thought I understood your position. Then I read this post.




Now I am confused again. When you say your corporation, are you implying that you own a company and the company car was involved in the speed incident? Also, why exactly is wanting to know who was operating the vehicle considered word play?
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Well... sorry... its not really "my" corporation... its theirs... I just administer it like a trustee.... I meant it more in a way like you for instance would say "my bank" (meaning the bank you do business at).
 
tobjai said:
BUT a human being cannot be charged by the supposed authorities for they have only authority over the fiction with the same name.
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In the English speaking world, this is completely untrue. All human beings are persons.

Perhaps you have some evidence of a fantastic new breakthrough for FOTLism in Germany. We'd love to take a look at it.
 
tobjai said:
Well... sorry... its not really "my" corporation... its theirs... I just administer it like a trustee.... I meant it more in a way like you for instance would say "my bank" (meaning the bank you do business at).
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In the English speaking world, this is completely untrue. All human beings are persons.

Perhaps you have some evidence of a fantastic new breakthrough for FOTLism in Germany. We'd love to take a look at it.
 
tobjai said:
It works just fine WITHOUT coercion and WITHOUT human ownership
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So the group would control the means of production and any physical items and property would belong equally to the group.

That rings a bell, but I can't quite put my finger on it...


(in case you you are going to say "there is no such thing" then I'm sure we can also agree that courts don't have a say over us).
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I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say there but I can certainly disagree with your unsupported assertion.
 
tobjai said:
A human being can do pretty much anything (incl. driving a car). BUT a human being cannot be charged by the supposed authorities for they have only authority over the fiction with the same name.
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The human being and "the fiction with the same name" are one and the same.
 
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