The Freeman Movement and England

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Agatha said:
You know, Especially, we get that the monarchy is unelected in this country. We already understand that. Most of us here in the UK also fully understand the principle of Royal Assent.

What is the point you are trying to make? Instead of posting all caps bullet points of things we already know, and youtube videos, how about attempting to lay out your argument clearly and concisely? At least then we'd have a chance of a discussion.
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Especially said:
Agatha,

The unelected monarchy, all members of Parliament, all governments, all rulers, and all men and women in this country are SUBJECT to the same Law. The Rule of Law.

The same is true of all Acts of Parliament. Since the people have the power of consent to them. They are not laws. They are Acts of Parliament. Subject to the Law of this land. So too is the monarchy. And the politicians.

Parliaments do not make laws. They make Statutes. A big difference. And, as a stone may sharpen a knife (but not the other way round) so also all power is subject to the Rule of Law.

The Common Law.

Not the legal industry. But the Common Law. The Rule of Law, in fact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9gTjvcK8to
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Bet you're glad you asked now, aren't you Agatha? It's back to the crazy Freeman Common Law talk!

Now with added YouTube.
 
Especially said:
These Parliamentary Statutes (also known as Acts of Parliament) are all subject to the supreme law. They are all kept in the 'Statute Book'. And are all subject to the Law of the Land. Statutes, you see, are NOT the Laws of this land.
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Please state what this "Law of the Land" consists of.
 
Especially said:
When the British elites funded both sides of the American revolutionary war (through France) they knew the newly created USA would soon be bankrupt. Didn't know that, right ? That's right. The British elites loaned money to the American revolutionary forces before their independence !!!! Plain and documentary fact. (See below).

The people of the new USA would soon be paying these elites of England (shareholders in their empire) back for those loans with lots of American dollars. Plus interest. Of course. Forever. By tax. And they, these British elites of their empire, arranged before they left the USA in 1796 for their bogus legal system ('English Common Law') to be successfully transplanted in to control of the legal system in all the States of the USA. And have controlled them ever since. Want to get justice. OK, why not go to the legal industry. All oath swearing members of the same fraternity.

As for Common Law, it was of course impersonated. By the legal system. And it had been impersonated ever since 1066 back in England. It's the legal industry versus the Common Law, in fact. Laugh about that ! Common Law versus the corporate legal industry -aka 'English Common Law'.

There are only two kinds of government. Government served by people or people served by government.

Judge for yourself which you have !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRXS1jlAr5g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGaYPxEPbf0
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So William The Conqueror and those Damn Normans are to blame for everything?
Well, at least this crackpot theory give the Jews a break.......
 
Especially. Please link to or reference the specific documents, not the youtube videos that may or may not mention them.
 
Remirol,

You are showing your ignorance again.

I didn't say laws need our consent. I said that STATUTES do.

OMG - where do these people get their education from ?

remirol said:
This is both factually untrue and does not ever actually work in practice.

Laws do not require consent. I understand that this is a central tenet of FOTL woo, but it has never been supported by either documentation or any actual examples of it working. It appears that it would be time to abandon FOTL and return to reality, yes?
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Why not join a library and read the documents for yourself.

In the meantime examine the Youtube videos. Which are supported by numerous articles online.

Can't do better than that, can we ?


garethdjb said:
Especially. Please link to or reference the specific documents, not the youtube videos that may or may not mention them.
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dudalb said:
So William The Conqueror and those Damn Normans are to blame for everything?
Well, at least this crackpot theory give the Jews a break.......
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not so sure about that. I know quite a few Jews named Norman, a few are even relatives.
 
Especially said:
Why not join a library and read the documents for yourself.
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What documents are those?

In the meantime examine the Youtube videos. Which are supported by numerous articles online.
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What articles are those?

Can't do better than that, can we ?
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Youtube videos are the bottom shelf of 'evidence'; in other words, not evidence at all. We can do much better than that. Well... maybe YOU can't. But that's not at issue, now is it?
 
Keep it on topic and do not flood the forum with the same links in many places.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky
 
Mojo said:
Not what Especially's Youtube video says it means.

Note to Especially - if you want to know what a document means, reading it is always a good start.
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That´s the problem. Especially doesn´t want to know, he enjoys the delusion of already knowing.

(I would have said "suffered from the delusion", but he doesn´t really appear to be suffering)
 
We'd be the ones suffering from that delusion if weren't so entertaining.
 
Freeman on the land turned up in court (criminal) yesterday in front of our most irascible Judge. Brought the usual claque along. I understand the Judge was surprisingly patient - only threw him out of court once.
The Judge did tell him and the fan club that they were being pathetic and they should grow up get jobs and stop wasting everyone's time.
Finally he's given his bail sheet with the next hearing date on it and proceeds to pretend he doesn't recognise the name on it, theatrically turning to the public gallery and demanding to know if anyone there recognises the name. Of course this means turning his back on the Judge - who immediately pounces and has him arrested for contempt of court (ironically a common law offence)...

(In two weeks I'm hoping to watch a FMOTL trial)
 
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