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The Fox News Presidency

dudalb said:
As of Wenesday, I can watch the Fox Network, Fox Movie channel and my local Fox affiliate without feeling guilty that is some way I am helping Fox News by watching them.One good thing from the Fox Disney deal.
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Kind of a shame they didn't acquire FOX news as well, if only to hear the howling of the Trumpistas. :)
 
Horatius said:
Because their target audience don't see that they're "obvious, cheap photoshopping jobs".

How many times have James O'Keefe and Jacob Wohl been caught in hilariously ridiculous lies, only for those lies to end up as mainstream GOP talking points?

There's a hard core of idiots in the Republican Party that will believe just about anything they're told if it reinforces their beliefs, no matter how obvious or ridiculous the lies are.
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Ya, thankfully that only happens with Republicans and conservatives.
 
Re: Judge Jeannine Pirro...
Stacko said:
Sources are now reporting that she's been suspended.
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Guess its not too surprising. Granted, Fox news is a pro-Trump propaganda source, but even Fox can sometimes act against its own hosts to stave off bad publicity, especially if it threatens profits. (And having multiple advertisers pull their ads from her show would do that.)

I guess the question now is... why did Fox do it. Options are:

- She really did 'cross a line'. Granted, they can be as racist as they want, but fox anchors have to keep their racism with a veneer of respectibility

- Fox may be changing its editorial stance. MSNBC is doing better in the ratings lately, and some days challenges Fox News. Maybe they realize being the 24/7 Neo-nazi/Trump love-in channel may be bad for business and have decided to pull back slightly on their rhetoric

- She was a sacrificial lamb. They have no problem with what she said, but realized that they already had plenty of bigotry from Carlson and Hannity, and to keep THEM on the air, they needed to make an example of her

Of course, she is only suspended. She may be back.
 
Segnosaur said:
Re: Judge Jeannine Pirro...

Guess its not too surprising. Granted, Fox news is a pro-Trump propaganda source, but even Fox can sometimes act against its own hosts to stave off bad publicity, especially if it threatens profits. (And having multiple advertisers pull their ads from her show would do that.)

I guess the question now is... why did Fox do it. Options are:

- She really did 'cross a line'. Granted, they can be as racist as they want, but fox anchors have to keep their racism with a veneer of respectibility

- Fox may be changing its editorial stance. MSNBC is doing better in the ratings lately, and some days challenges Fox News. Maybe they realize being the 24/7 Neo-nazi/Trump love-in channel may be bad for business and have decided to pull back slightly on their rhetoric

- She was a sacrificial lamb. They have no problem with what she said, but realized that they already had plenty of bigotry from Carlson and Hannity, and to keep THEM on the air, they needed to make an example of her

Of course, she is only suspended. She may be back.
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I would like to add a 4th possibility

- They saw how Carlson's show lost nearly 40% of its sponsors. By suspending her, they have in effect headed the angry sponsors off at the pass.... "look, we punished her. No need to pull your sponsorship; she's off the air for two weeks, and when she comes back on she will issue a contrite mea-culpa and apology and we can all be friends again"
 
Anyone keeping score?
The right wing media is shedding its gods at the same rate the center/left is adding them.
Looks like hate doesn't sell as well as expected.
 
dudalb said:
As of Wenesday, I can watch the Fox Network, Fox Movie channel and my local Fox affiliate without feeling guilty that is some way I am helping Fox News by watching them.One good thing from the Fox Disney deal.
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It's ironic that the best local news program is on Fox (i.e. just reporting the news, truly fair and balanced), when I can't watch any of their nationally broadcast stuff.
 
Belz... said:
I suppose that's possible*, but if you want to make people look ugly for... I don't know what the purpose is but... if you want to do that, at least hire people who can photoshop properly.

*: And as I mentioned earlier in some thread or another, Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars fame posted a looped and at some point reversed video of Hillary showing her nodding in a weird way, to prove that she was mentally ill. Apparently his viewers were too stupid to notice the obvious video editing.
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Part of the right wing propaganda machine is the notion that conservatives are beautiful, attractive people and liberals are ugly and undesirable. This manifests in all sorts of weird ways like how Trump is always portrayed as buffed in their political cartoons and how they always find the most unappealing pictures of anyone to use in their onscreen graphics for TV.
 
Travis said:
Part of the right wing propaganda machine is the notion that conservatives are beautiful, attractive people and liberals are ugly and undesirable. This manifests in all sorts of weird ways like how Trump is always portrayed as buffed in their political cartoons and how they always find the most unappealing pictures of anyone to use in their onscreen graphics for TV.
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Like when they Photoshop reporters pictures to make them look more like Jewish caricature from Nazi Germany.

https://www.businessinsider.com/2008/7/fox-news-we-photoshop-you-decide
 

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Travis said:
Part of the right wing propaganda machine is the notion that conservatives are beautiful, attractive people and liberals are ugly and undesirable. This manifests in all sorts of weird ways like how Trump is always portrayed as buffed in their political cartoons and how they always find the most unappealing pictures of anyone to use in their onscreen graphics for TV.
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i saw a meme the other day where someone on the right-wing had collected all the best-looking pictures of the best-looking Republican commentators and all the worst-looking pictures of the worst-looking Liberal commentators and politicians with a caption along the lines of "what does this tell you?" Someone else had replied "that Liberals care more about the substance of what someone says than what they look like?"

And that's the thing I don't get about this narrative - how can the Republicans who push it not see how much of an own-goal it is?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
i saw a meme the other day where someone on the right-wing had collected all the best-looking pictures of the best-looking Republican commentators and all the worst-looking pictures of the worst-looking Liberal commentators and politicians with a caption along the lines of "what does this tell you?" Someone else had replied "that Liberals care more about the substance of what someone says than what they look like?"

And that's the thing I don't get about this narrative - how can the Republicans who push it not see how much of an own-goal it is?
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What it does tell you about the people doing it is that they are completely committed to the idea that the other side is not just in disagreement; they are instead the enemy, and must be destroyed.
 
smartcooky said:
Everyone has a breaking point... I wonder what his is?
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Profit. He must expect that Trump will be re-elected and everything continues as now. But if that looks unlikley he will drop Trump and Tucker Carlson etc. and run towards news and credibility.
 
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