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The Deluge

How did the Nephilim mentioned in Genesis survive to be mentioned again in Numbers?
 
If Chuck Norris were to do continual roundhouse kicks during the flood, would he create a water spout that would pick up even God?
 
David Henson said:
In other words there only needed to be 43 kinds of mammals, 74 kinds of birds, and 10 kinds of reptiles.
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So when modern biologists say that 10 reptile kinds cannot turn into the 8000 reptile species in 6000 years, what is your response?


ETA: follow up question - were dinosaurs one of those 10 reptile kinds?
 
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Bikewer said:
As Sledge says. An event obviously borrowed from the Babylonian flood story which likely had actual antecedents in some localized flood in the area in pre-history.
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That isn't really a question, but a quick response . . . according to Bible chronology the flood took place in 2370 B.C.E. The Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh, as we know it from the library of Ashurbanipal (who reigned from 668 - 627 B.C.E.) didn't begin to circulate, fragmentarily, until 1900 B.C.E. so how you came to assume the former was inspired by the later is beyond my comprehension as well as, I would like to think, the comprehension of science.
 
I will try this one more time sir. I can't put this any plainer:

"Show me your God."

Introduce me to your God here, today, and now please.

You care about the flood because it's in the bible. The bible is the word of God. Show me your God. It's the point of what I want to know from you, the most important point. It's relevant to the deluge because God decreed it according to your bible.

If you're a believer, how is this not the most important question I can ask you?
 
So how did a WOODEN boat the size of the Titanic manage to keep from leaking in rough stormy waters?

I'm not a nautical engineer but I believe there are structural reasons why a wooden boat the size of the Titanic was never built.

A little rough water and the seams between the planks are going to have some pretty big gaps in them.....not to mention the fact that it would probably fall apart under it's own weight in rough water....
 
David Henson said:
That isn't really a question, but a quick response . . . according to Bible chronology the flood took place in 2370 B.C.E. The Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh, as we know it from the library of Ashurbanipal (who reigned from 668 - 627 B.C.E.) didn't begin to circulate, fragmentarily, until 1900 B.C.E. so how you came to assume the former was inspired by the later is beyond my comprehension as well as, I would like to think, the comprehension of science.
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The Bible claimed this story first therefore it must be true? Wow, you really have no comprehension of science.
 
Why isn't there any interruption in Chinese archaeology or history to indicate the entire nation being wiped out and resettled. You would think Emperor Ku would have noticed something like that.
 
Hokulele said:
Why isn't there any interruption in Chinese archaeology or history to indicate the entire nation being wiped out and resettled. You would think Emperor Ku would have noticed something like that.
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Because the Celestial Dragons and the Yellow Emperor created the Great Flood Walls of China.
 
David Henson said:
That isn't really a question, but a quick response . . . according to Bible chronology the flood took place in 2370 B.C.E. The Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh, as we know it from the library of Ashurbanipal (who reigned from 668 - 627 B.C.E.) didn't begin to circulate, fragmentarily, until 1900 B.C.E. so how you came to assume the former was inspired by the later is beyond my comprehension as well as, I would like to think, the comprehension of science.
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The Biblical account of "The Deluge" was written sometime between 1450BC and 450BC. The Sumerian account, as you note, is much older than that.
So, yes, it's very likely that the Biblical account was inspired by the Sumerian story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_myth#Sumerian
 
Sun Countess said:
How did they all land at the top of a mountain in Armenia/Turkey and all manage to travel to places where they're more suited? (e.g. penguins to the Antarctic, polar bears to the arctic, different snakes to different deserts on vastly different continents, alligators to the Florida everglades, bison to North America, pandas to China, koalas and kangaroos to Australia...etc.etc.)
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For some reason that one really made me laugh. Nice point. Sometimes just the act of transposing these fairy tales into reality is just funny. Those poor koalas had a long ass way to go.

It does seem almost too good to be true...
 
Cavemonster said:
David, you'll find that most skeptics here have read the Bible and have already arrived at conclusions about it. We're mostly not interested in broad discussions about fictional event, entities and objects.

Look around the forum a bit, "Ask me questions about God/Aliens/Bigfoot/Psychics" threads don't generate the kind of discussion you're looking for.

The format that generates the most thoughtful, robust response is as follows:

I believe X to be true, here is my evidence from multiple credible sources.

Then, respond to criticism with more appropriate evidence from credible sources.

That's the only way that most of this forum, myself included, will take a discussion of THE FLOOD seriously.
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I think you may grossly underestimate the need for skeptics to vent their hostility for anyone who doesn't buy into their dogma.
 
Pure_Argent said:
Where did all the water come from? Where did it go?
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The water came from a canopy of water vapor that surrounded the earth up until the flood. "For, according to their wish, this fact escapes their notice, that there were heavens from of old and an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water." - 2 Peter 3:5 (See Genesis 1:6-8)

Where did the water go? Nowhere, the earth is about 70% water. It is possible that the oceans were smaller and the mountains were lower. River channels reach far out under the ocean. There is ten times as much water by volume in the ocean as there is land above sea level. Ice caps.

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Why did all the fish not die from the mixture of rainwater and saltwater?
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I may have to finish this tomorrow. The Tale Of Scrotie McBoogerballs is on and I'm afraid I must watch it.
 
David Henson said:
That isn't really a question, but a quick response . . . according to Bible chronology the flood took place in 2370 B.C.E. The Akkadian Epic of Gilgamesh, as we know it from the library of Ashurbanipal (who reigned from 668 - 627 B.C.E.) didn't begin to circulate, fragmentarily, until 1900 B.C.E. so how you came to assume the former was inspired by the later is beyond my comprehension as well as, I would like to think, the comprehension of science.
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Because we're talking about historically existing stories and you're talking about a mythical event.
 
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