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Ed The Cuomo Scandal.

ponderingturtle said:
Billy Bush got fired for having a guy brag about sexually assaulting women to him. Really pretty much anything can get you fired in the media.
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That's true. Billy's problem though he laughed on television about it. It made it sound that this was okay.
 
dudalb said:
That is it. Just having the brother of a major political figure as the host of a news show is just a bad look as far as creditibility goes even if the host does recuse himself.
Amazed people don't get this. I am convinced that Chris Cumeo is a liberal commentor has a lot to do with this.

Chris is using the "we are going to concentrate on Covid" line, but I doubt that changes much.
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Oh c'mon. I certainly would take CNN's reporting on the Governor with a grain of salt. But beyond that, i could care less.
 
Alexandra Brodsky's view

Self-described civil rights lawyer Alexandra Brodsky wrote an Op-Ed for the NYT.

"But now Mr. Cuomo has received the process that was his due: Independent lawyers deputized by the state attorney general’s office conducted a full investigation while Mr. Cuomo remained in office."

What? An investigation is not in an of itself due process.

"Whether accused at work, at school or in a courtroom, all people should be provided the basics of due process: notice of the allegation; a chance to tell their side of the story; judgment by impartial decision makers. Fair investigations help everyone, victims and the accused alike."

Conspicuously lacking in this list is an opportunity to cross-examine a witness. Nor is that omission wholly surprising, given Ms. Brodsky's role in founding the organization Know Your IX, which is concerned with how colleges and universities handle allegations of sexual improprieties. If she does not understand this*, she must be a terrible lawyer. Governor Cuomo may or may not have done what was alleged, but Ms. Brodsky is near the bottom of the list of people whose opinion should be consulted.
*the importance of cross-examination
 
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Chris_Halkides said:
Self-described civil rights lawyer Alexandra Brodsky wrote an Op-Ed for the NYT.

"But now Mr. Cuomo has received the process that was his due: Independent lawyers deputized by the state attorney general’s office conducted a full investigation while Mr. Cuomo remained in office."

What? An investigation is not in an of itself due process.

"Whether accused at work, at school or in a courtroom, all people should be provided the basics of due process: notice of the allegation; a chance to tell their side of the story; judgment by impartial decision makers. Fair investigations help everyone, victims and the accused alike."

Conspicuously lacking in this list is an opportunity to cross-examine a witness. Nor is that omission wholly surprising, given Ms. Brodsky's role in founding the organization Know Your IX, which is concerned with how colleges and universities handle allegations of sexual improprieties. If she does not understand this, she must be a terrible lawyer. Governor Cuomo may or may not have done what was alleged, but Ms. Brodsky is near the bottom of the list of people whose opinion should be consulted.
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Assuming he doesn't resign in disgrace, he seems on track to get the formal, extremely public due process that comes with impeachment.

Resigning and not publicly wallowing in the sordid details of his disgusting behavior is probably the right play to mitigate the damages, but opinions differ.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Assuming he doesn't resign in disgrace, he seems on track to get the formal, extremely public due process that comes with impeachment.

Resigning and not publicly wallowing in the sordid details of his disgusting behavior is probably the right play to mitigate the damages, but opinions differ.
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I wouldn't call impeachment due process but a political act.
 
BobTheCoward said:
That is like saying the King is specified by law and therefore his executions by fiat are due process.
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It is. Lots of reasons to complain about such a system, but "due process" isn't one. If all the rules are followed before the King has you executed via an anti-aircraft gun, that's all the process you're due in such a system.
 
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impeachment followed by a trial of sorts

Politico Just from skimming this, I would say that removal from office would require two things. Impeachment from the state house, followed by an affirmation by the "High Court of Impeachment," consisting of state senators and members of the the state's Court of Appeals, minus the majority leader of the senate.
 
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Chris_Halkides said:
Politico Just from skimming this, I would say that removal from office would require two things. Impeachment from the state house, followed by an affirmation by the "High Court of Impeachment," consisting of state senators and members of the the state's Court of Appeals, minus the majority leader of the senate.
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Sounds similar to the federal process: Impeachment (the equivalent of indictment) by the House, then conviction or acquittal by the Senate.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Assuming he doesn't resign in disgrace, he seems on track to get the formal, extremely public due process that comes with impeachment.

Resigning and not publicly wallowing in the sordid details of his disgusting behavior is probably the right play to mitigate the damages, but opinions differ.
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The thing others have pointed out is that impeachment will open up his entire administration, particularly including his lying about covid deaths in nursing homes, to examination. Resigning "for the good of the State" might be his best move.
https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/andrew-cuomo-sexual-harassment
https://gothamist.com/news/brief-history-past-cuomo-scandals-and-controversies
 
Belz... said:
Yeah those Change.com petitions sure do lead to actual change!
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If you've ever signed one, they change the amount of spam you receive. So that's ... something?

As a lark I signed one years ago about moving the Superbowl to Saturday. With over 100,000 signatures (iirc) you can certainly tell how effective that one was!
 
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