The conspirators thread, what happened ?

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Point?

Explain why the domain was registered on 12th September

1) It was not registered on Sept. 12

Domain Name: TODDBEAMER.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
EPP Status: clientDeleteProhibited
EPP Status: clientUpdateProhibited
EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 14-Aug-2006
Creation Date: 16-Sep-2001
Expiration Date: 16-Sep-2007

http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=toddbeamer&tld=com

2) as to why,

"The trademarking of 'Let's roll' is a strictly preventive measure from our standpoint," foundation executive director Doug MacMillan said. "We want to limit its use. We want to be able to protect it, and we want to utilize that to benefit the children."

 

[jessicarabbit]

shes referring to markbingham.org for the sept 12th registration

its registered to a web design company, so its possible they jumped on it with hopes of selling it later

If thats true then they are the real scumbags profiting from 9/11. I hope you take it up with them

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

If thats true then they are the real scumbags profiting from 9/11. I hope you take it up with them

Will you not be doing so?

 

[Housefly]

I'm sorry, I seem to have missed something. Perhaps the board is glitching up and not displaying posts.

jessica, you seem to be of the opinion that Todd Beamer's widow starting a charity called the Todd Beamer Foundation shortly after his death is suspicious(see post no. 33 in this thread). You bring this up as a "point of interest" (post 33 again) but do not seem to say what about it is interesting. Later(post 42), you demand an explanation. You have yet to say why you think an explanation is necessary for Todd Beamer's widow starting a charity called the Todd Beamer Foundation shortly after his death. So hey, humour a newbie skeptic and tell me what's up.

 

[jessicarabbit]

Will you not be doing so?

No because I am not a self styled 9/11 vigilante.

 

[kevin]

Domain Name: MARKBINGHAM.ORG
Created On: 12-Sep-2001 17:06:44 UTC
Registrant Name: Daniel Chu
Registrant Organization: TeleGraphic Designs
Registrant Email: [email protected]" - whois-search

Daniel Chu registered the domain. What is his relation to the family, why is it significant that the domain was registered the day after he died? What is the appropriate time to wait before creating a website that honors a dead friend?

the trademark application for 'Let's Roll' was filed on September 26, 2001. Is that a more appropriate time to wait? And somebody beat the family to try for a trademark by 4 days. They lost.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=617cfb.2.38

 

[Bell]

No because I am not a self styled 9/11 vigilante.

And your point of bringing all this up in the first place? Oh, I forgot, it was just a point of interest

 

[defaultdotxbe]

If thats true then they are the real scumbags profiting from 9/11.

well then theres something we agree on

I hope you take it up with them

however its really none of my business, if mark binghams family has a problem with it they are ones who should complain, if they have no problems with it then why should i?

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

No because I am not a self styled 9/11 vigilante.

I am confused then. Were you just making an off-hand comment, or was your reply directed at defaultdotxbe?

 

[kevin]

shes referring to markbingham.org for the sept 12th registration

its registered to a web design company, so its possible they jumped on it with hopes of selling it later

I think that is the company hired to do the design (which I think is horrible, btw). It is not setup as a web site for sale. In addition to a scholarship fund (appears this was initially setup in 2006) it mainly seems to be setup by a friend to honor his memory.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

I think that is the company hired to do the design (which I think is horrible, btw). It is not setup as a web site for sale. In addition to a scholarship fund (appears this was initially setup in 2006) it mainly seems to be setup by a friend to honor his memory.

this si a distinct possibility as well

my initial thoughts were that the company bought the website, then offered to design it however the finaly buyer wanted

of course without knowing which of these (if either) is what happened theres really nothign to "take up" with anyone

 

[jessicarabbit]

well then theres something we agree on


however its really none of my business, if mark binghams family has a problem with it they are ones who should complain, if they have no problems with it then why should i?

My point is that a lot of debunkers accuse CTs of profiting. That is mainly untrue as videos are distributed freely and a lot pump their own money into projects. I was suggesting that that you might want to target these people who really are just making money.

 

[stateofgrace]

Jessica, Thank you.

What?

You have shown everybody how the conspirators mind works. Simply pump out claim upon claim, watch as it is smacked down, time and time again and claim yourself victorious.

When ever in doubt simply try to derail the entire thread and hope nobody notices.

Now Jessica this is your theory

I will offer a possibility.

Some time before 911 the administration realised its oil campaign would need a bit of public support. Utilising their control of Al quaida and suppressing genuine attempts to apprehend them, they facilitated a watershed attack. Since then they have used 911 as an excuse for everything and describe it as an opportunity

and

Four planes were hijacked by Al Quada on 9/11. The towers and 7 were demolished to add effect to the attack (probably connected to Zelikows article in 1998) The investigation was delayed and usurped.

and

Flight 77 hit the pentagon. 93 crashed in shanksville. The investigation is untristworthy as I pointed out with this report

So please allow me to summaries what Jessica thinks happened.

In a desperate attempt to get public support for a flagging oil campaign, the USG gets in touch with Al Quada, whom they are in total control of. Al Quada readily agrees to assist the USG in its desperate campaign to win public support and signs up to their part. That being hijacking four planes, they also agree to provide the personnel to do so (Nineteen hijackers).

To further gain public support the USG stages the demolition of the Towers and WTC 7 for that added effect. This effect incidentally involves mass murder of its own citizens.

Terrorists from Al Quada, in their attempt to help out the USG also slam a plane full of innocent people into the Pentagon.

The USG as part of this public relations campaign possibility shoot down another plane full of innocent people, Flight 93. The extra touch is added here by faking the “lets roll” call from Todd Beamer. This is clearly a war cry and a desperate attempt to gain public support. (I will state here right now this claim I find highly offensive)

Once this is done, just to assure the public and further gain their support an investigation is launched into it all. The reports and finding from this investigation are totally untrustworthy even though many of the investigators were independent experts.

Having gained the full support of the public the USG then starts its quest for world domination.

Well done Jessica, you have come up trumps and shown everybody what a complete load of rubbish these theories are. Thanks for taking the time, you have provided nothing more than fits of laughter from this end.

 

[jessicarabbit]

Jessica, Thank you.

What?

You have shown everybody how the conspirators mind works. Simply pump out claim upon claim, watch as it is smacked down, time and time again and claim yourself victorious.

When ever in doubt simply try to derail the entire thread and hope nobody notices.

Now Jessica this is your theory

and

and


So please allow me to summaries what Jessica thinks happened.

In a desperate attempt to get public support for a flagging oil campaign, the USG gets in touch with Al Quada, whom they are in total control of. Al Quada readily agrees to assist the USG in its desperate campaign to win public support and signs up to their part. That being hijacking four planes, they also agree to provide the personnel to do so (Nineteen hijackers).

To further gain public support the USG stages the demolition of the Towers and WTC 7 for that added effect. This effect incidentally involves mass murder of its own citizens.

Terrorists from Al Quada, in their attempt to help out the USG also slam a plane full of innocent people into the Pentagon.

The USG as part of this public relations campaign possibility shoot down another plane full of innocent people, Flight 93. The extra touch is added here by faking the “lets roll” call for Todd Beamer. This is clearly a war cry and a desperate attempt to gain public support. (I will state here right now this claim I find highly offensive)

Once this is done, just to assure the public and further gain their support an investigation is launched into it all. The reports and finding from this investigation are totally untrustworthy even though many of the investigators were independent experts.

Having gained the full support of the public the USG then starts its quest for world domination.

Well done Jessica, you have come up trumps and shown everybody what a complete load of rubbish these theories are. Thanks for taking the time, you have provided nothing more than fits of laughter from this end.

Please stop builing strawmen. Show me where I claimed Todd Beamers call was faked. Pathetic.

 

[stateofgrace]

Did you know the phrase lets roll was papented on 20th september 2001?

By the way, the todd beamer foundation website was purchased on 12th Sept 2001. So grief stricken that the following day they are registering URLs

Oh I’m sorry Jessica if I misquoted you feel free to amend the summary, add to it if you wish I am all ears.

Now,now no more derailing please simply stick to what you think happened.

 

[Housefly]

Show me where I claimed Todd Beamers call was faked

So that's the only part you take issue with?

 

[T.A.M.]

If thats true then they are the real scumbags profiting from 9/11. I hope you take it up with them

Just remember that when your film comes out JR.

But a filmmaker has got a right to make a living...right?

TAM

 

[jessicarabbit]

Just remember that when your film comes out JR.

But a filmmaker has got a right to make a living...right?

TAM

I will not be profiting from the film. I have had to spend my own money making it and will distribute it free without copyright.

 

[T.A.M.]

glad to hear it. Honorable thing to do...NO SARCASM...

TAM

 

[jessicarabbit]

glad to hear it. Honorable thing to do...NO SARCASM...

TAM

Most people who have made 911 films do the same.