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The Boris Johnson ousting prediction thread

The Don said:
After Covid has fizzled out or become endemic and everyone is fine with it.

After the next set of negative Brexit consequences have played out.

After another couple of rounds of sleaze.

About a year before the next general election UNLESS local elections go fine in which case he'll lead the Tories to victory in the next general election with a slightly reduced majority.
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This.
 
lionking said:
Okay fair enough. I haven’t seen any charisma in Starmer, but you would know better
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The thing is that conmen are, by their nature, extremely charismatic. This is why they are good at being populist politicians (or peddlers of alternative medicine, used car salesmen, pyramid sellers, podcast/You Tube propagandists...etc...)

This is basically how we ended up in much of the mess we are in now re: Brexit in the UK, Trump in the US, skepticism on good science because of smooth-talking quacks and charlatans, etc...
 
June. I hope it's way before then (tonight would be good!) but I think he'll hang on for another 6 months of joyless nonsense before we have another joyless idiot like Gove or (god help us all) Patel.

The only one of the current crop of high profile Tories who isn't a lunatic, scumbag, moron or some combination of all three seems to be Sunak. I don't like Sunak, but he at least seems to be sane and intelligent, and he isn't a vicious psychopath like Patel or a regressive whackjob like Rees-Mogg.
 
Back on 17 December I predicted the middle of January, which doesn't look like it's on, but before the end of the month is possible.
 
How quickly can we get traitors gate back up and running.

I think he'll be out by end of January but really think the british public need to see his head on a spike overlooking the Thames..
 
What would we need to see for Johnson to be toast and are we seeing it?

I would think we would need to see some obvious groundswell of negative opinion among Tory voters, editorials in the right-wing press (particularly Telegraph, Mail and the Sun), maybe some prominent parliamentary MP speaking out.

Have we seen any of these things yet?
 
“Boris is toast” is in the Mail and says 12 MPs have spoken out about Johnson. I have not heard of any of them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...gate-DOZEN-MPs-issue-public-criticism-PM.html

I think one wrinkle for any would-be leader who takes over is whether they were at one of Johnson’s parties, or one of their own, or could not deny they knew of them. It wouldn’t be worth it for any of those to try to take over from Johnson as it would be burning their bridges with one section of the party only to risk complete oblivion if the truth gets out.
 
"Tory MPs will be ready in sufficient numbers to force Boris Johnson out of Downing Street within weeks if he tries to dodge responsibility for rule-breaking parties at No 10, the Observer has been told." Guardian

But then, if he does accept responsibility, how can he avoid resignation? It really looks like a goose-is-cooked-one-way-or-another situation to me. Is it code for allowing him the 'honourable' way out, rather than being ignominiously kicked out?
 
What angers me about the precipitous fall in Johnson's ratings now, is why on earth did people not realise what sort of a person he was before they voted for him? This goes for the Conservative party in particular for electing him leader, but the entire country for voting him in in 2019. Did they think he was a lovable, scruffy buffoon on the outside, yet inside a responsible, wise administrator who was the country's best chance for prosperity? While this was very much the two-layered image he was keen to promote, how could anyone not see him for what he was?
 
BillC said:
What angers me about the precipitous fall in Johnson's ratings now, is why on earth did people not realise what sort of a person he was before they voted for him? This goes for the Conservative party in particular for electing him leader, but the entire country for voting him in in 2019. Did they think he was a lovable, scruffy buffoon on the outside, yet inside a responsible, wise administrator who was the country's best chance for prosperity? While this was very much the two-layered image he was keen to promote, how could anyone not see him for what he was?
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Indeed. Just look at his track record and history. It was completely obvious he was incompetent and untrustworthy. Everything about his past made that clear.

But it was Brexit, pure and simple. I don't think he would have stood a chance of becoming leader in any other situation.
 
BillC said:
What angers me about the precipitous fall in Johnson's ratings now, is why on earth did people not realise what sort of a person he was before they voted for him? This goes for the Conservative party in particular for electing him leader, but the entire country for voting him in in 2019. Did they think he was a lovable, scruffy buffoon on the outside, yet inside a responsible, wise administrator who was the country's best chance for prosperity? While this was very much the two-layered image he was keen to promote, how could anyone not see him for what he was?
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Beats me, as it's been obvious all along what he actually is.

However, some are either unable to see through the "Boris" schtick or plain don't care; we still vividly recall a vox pop broadcast of PM from Blyth in which someone bleated (if you heard it that is how they sounded) "But I just like him!"
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Beats me, as it's been obvious all along what he actually is.

However, some are either unable to see through the "Boris" schtick or plain don't care; we still vividly recall a vox pop broadcast of PM from Blyth in which someone bleated (if you heard it that is how they sounded) "But I just like him!"
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Amazingly, a lot of people like the character that Boris Johnson plays on TV. The idea of a toff who's a bit dotty and dishevelled while at the same time showing how clever they are by throwing out the odd Latin tag seems to be appealing to a significant chunk of the British electorate. The idea that someone isn't trying too hard seems to appeal. :confused:

Maybe we've been conditioned by decades of Wodehouse characters and the like.

Even now, I reckon a large number of people still like him despite all the "Partygate" allegations because he's just BoJo being BoJo. :rolleyes: :mad:
 
^I mean, I like Wodehouse as much as anyone, but I wouldn't want Bertie Wooster in charge of anything more complex than a blunt pencil; Jeeves would be another thing altogether...

BlowJob doesn't have a Jeeves though...
 
Looks like the mood is changing :(

MPs are waiting for the report of the investigation into Partygate before doing anything. The leaks from the report are pretty clear that Boris Johnson will not even have been found to have broken the Ministerial Code much less have done anything illegal.

He'll be fully exonerated, a few civil servants will have to fall on their swords and Boris Johnson will be given yet another"last chance" by the craven sociopaths who constitute the Parliamentary Conservative Party. :mad:

....and in a few weeks once everything is back to normal, the majority of the electorate will have forgotten their anger and go back to liking good old BoJo.
 
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