The Biden Presidency

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Regnad Kcin said:
But... ...can’t be bothered to watch the inaugural.

Oh, and Biden’s speech was, by word count, 18th longest of the 59 such speeches. Longer than, among others, both of Clinton’s, both of Obama’s, both of Nixon’s, all three Bush’s, all four FDR’s, etc.

Maybe time to listen to different info?
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Is Harrison's speech still the longest?
 
Caroline13 said:
Just heard my favorite radio program and it's a call in program and the question posed was: Will Joe make it thru the 4 yrs...the general consensus was NO,
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Given the right-wing bias that is pretty firmly entrenched with radio, of course the general consensus was no. Given the selection bias and set of likely responders, that honestly means extremely little.

Caroline13 said:
and one woman compared him to where her mother with Alzheimers and she said he's at about an 8, I don't know the degrees. Many said he basically drags his feet across the floor on his short walks. I see no TV as I don't watch it anymore.
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So... not at all an expert opinion. It's not wrong to consider the arguments made, of course, but it's also important to recognize that you're not an expert and you've taken no steps at all to inform yourself from neutral, factual sources on the topic or to check the accuracy of the claims. On the other hand, Biden's doctor did release relevant information in 2019. Really short takeaway from that? He seems to be in notably better health than Trump.

Caroline13 said:
It's tragic, he's been failing for years and they all knew it.
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You should probably remember that that line of claims pretty much inevitably seems to originate from his political opponents. Biden very likely is declining to some extent, of course, but he's nowhere close to failing, by the look of it. Certainly, he's got a long, long way to go down before he sinks to Trump's level.

Caroline13 said:
Then it's President Harris and VP Pelosi (another oldie).
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Err... At last check, Pelosi would remain Speaker of the House and Harris would have the chance to select a VP.


Caroline13 said:
I say balony, I've gotten so much info from some of the FrontLine Doctors on radio and net
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...These FrontLine Doctors?

'America's Frontline Doctors' Continue to Misinform on COVID
— Notorious physician group has now pivoted to inciting fear about vaccines

On July 29, 2020, we reported that many members of America's Frontline Doctors, a physician group that spread misinformation about the pandemic, had little to no experience treating COVID-19 patients. Here, we take a look at the messages that group has continued to spread during the pandemic.

A physician group that rampantly spread COVID-19 misinformation is back in the spotlight -- but this time, sowing doubt about the vaccine.

America's Frontline Doctors, an organization that claims to provide uncensored, accurate information about the pandemic, became infamous in July after a viral press conference that protested government lockdown restrictions and spread inaccuracies ranging from the ineffectiveness of masks to claims that hydroxychloroquine could "cure" COVID-19.

Now, those same doctors -- the majority of which have no experience treating COVID-19 patients -- have launched a campaign to warn Americans that they should not be forced to take an "experimental vaccine," while failing to mention the safety trials and large phase III efficacy trials, along with the fact that no vaccine mandate exists.
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They sure sound like exactly the kind of people that you absolutely shouldn't trust on COVID at all, let alone without question.

Caroline13 said:
I don't believe a person who is not all there should be in charge of a country.
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So we can agree that Trump shouldn't be in charge of a country? It's probably not wrong to observe that most of the accusations about Biden's decline were fairly certainly started to try to distract and deflect from the numerous public cases where Trump was pretty obviously suffering from mental and physical decline.

SezMe said:
Fortunately, we have evidence that allows us to respond to that question, Trump once turned his back on his wife, ergo, he is not a good man.




WAIT! Did I say "once"? Not once. Not twice. But Trump has cheated on his wives THREE (count 'em. 3) times. We can therefore conclude he is not a good man but a blubbery sack of rancid ****.

We can agree on that, right?
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:confused: I think you're confused. He's cheated on all THREE of his wives, at last check. The actual number of times that he cheated on his wives seem likely to be dramatically higher, though.
 
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DHS goons continue to use jackboot tactics on the streets of Portland, including the continued use of HC smoke grenades on protest crowds. HC smoke is not intended for crowd control and is well known to be very toxic and likely carcinogenic. There are also concerns about the residues poisoning local ecology and waterways.

Local journalists report recovering more spent HC munitions from last night's protest.

https://twitter.com/GriffinMalone6/status/1370296475700264963

An older article discussing the dangers of using HC smoke and detailing the practices of DHS.

https://www.koin.com/news/protests/military-grade-hc-smoke-used-against-portland-protesters/

DHS are federal agents and are under Biden's control.
 
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Caroline13 said:
Just heard my favorite radio program and it's a call in program and the question posed was: Will Joe make it thru the 4 yrs...the general consensus was NO, and one woman compared him to where her mother with Alzheimers and she said he's at about an 8, I don't know the degrees. Many said he basically drags his feet across the floor on his short walks. I see no TV as I don't watch it anymore.

It's tragic, he's been failing for years and they all knew it.

I believe it's a matter of time and just what the drugs they are giving him does. Then it's President Harris and VP Pelosi (another oldie).:rolleyes:
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And can you tell me why would Nancy Pelosi become Vice President if Biden were to die before his term expired?
 
There's an official line of succession for the Presidency, and Speaker Of The House is next after the VP. However, that doesn't mean the SOTH becomes VP when the VP becomes the new P. The job of VP remains open until the new P appoints somebody and that person gets confirmed. The SOTH remains SOTH throughout that process until the new P is out for whatever reason, then the SOTH bumps straight to P, having never been VP.

It is possible for the old VP, upon becoming the new P, to appoint the SOTH as the new VP, and for that appointment to be confirmed. But it's not automatic, and it's also possible for the White House dog's dog groomer to be appointed & confirmed. Who it would be is completely unknown until somebody asks the current VP who (s)he would appoint if necessary, and I doubt that anybody ever has.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
But... ...can’t be bothered to watch the inaugural.

Oh, and Biden’s speech was, by word count, 18th longest of the 59 such speeches. Longer than, among others, both of Clinton’s, both of Obama’s, both of Nixon’s, all three Bush’s, all four FDR’s, etc.

Maybe time to listen to different info?
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It was also over 1100 words longer than Trump's address in '17.
 
Caroline13 said:
Just heard my favorite radio program and it's a call in program and the question posed was: Will Joe make it thru the 4 yrs...the general consensus was NO, and one woman compared him to where her mother with Alzheimers and she said he's at about an 8, I don't know the degrees. Many said he basically drags his feet across the floor on his short walks. I see no TV as I don't watch it anymore.

It's tragic, he's been failing for years and they all knew it.

I believe it's a matter of time and just what the drugs they are giving him does. Then it's President Harris and VP Pelosi (another oldie).:rolleyes:
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You'll excuse me if I'm not impressed by the medical opinions of an intellectual underclass that would call into an anti-American talk radio program.
 
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thaiboxerken said:
I predict that Democrats will not change or get rid of the filibuster. When the GOP gains control of the Senate again, the GOP will get rid of the filibuster and use the excuse that Democrats are obstructionists and were already trying to get rid of it.

IOW, those who fear GOP retaliation for eliminating the filibuster are dumb. The GOP is going to do whatever they can when they have the power to abuse and keep that power. The GOP is already ramped up voter suppression and disenfranchisement because they lost the last election. They will not make the mistake of allowing people to vote again or allow Democrats to have a voice.
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This. The time for compromise and cooperation has passed. The GOP have made their intentions clear. Democrats need to play the same game, and simply make it impossible for the Republicans to ever get that power again.
 
Belz... said:
This. The time for compromise and cooperation has passed. The GOP have made their intentions clear. Democrats need to play the same game, and simply make it impossible for the Republicans to ever get that power again.
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Agreed.

Compromise, "Meet in the middle", etc were all valid ideas that had to be on the table back when the Republican Party, as wrong as it was, had some core identity beyond "LOL Troll the Libs."

You can (and should) compromise with a lot for moral reasons or simple reasons of "Getting stuff done" practicality. That's one thing idealist generally tend to forget.

But when one side has openly planted its flag in "Obstructionism and Contrarianism for their own sakes" territory compromise is no longer a moral question because it simply won't work.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Agreed.

Compromise, "Meet in the middle", etc were all valid ideas that had to be on the table back when the Republican Party, as wrong as it was, had some core identity beyond "LOL Troll the Libs."

You can (and should) compromise with a lot for moral reasons or simple reasons of "Getting stuff done" practicality. That's one thing idealist generally tend to forget.

But when one side has openly planted its flag in "Obstructionism and Contrarianism for their own sakes" territory compromise is no longer a moral question because it simply won't work.
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Nothing is stopping the Republicans from actually advocating anything while they are in the minority. If there's some policy issue they want to accomplish that has some chance for bipartisan support, the Dems would probably play ball.

These calls for bipartisanship are obviously just bad-faith nonsense. If you press these people on the matter, I doubt many of them actually have any bipartisan ideas they want to advocate.
 
Belz... said:
Just heard my favorite radio program and it's a call in program and the question posed was: Will Joe make it thru the 4 yrs...the general consensus was NO
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Yeah and in 2016 Hillary was at death's door too. :rolleyes:
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Well she was, but then she drank the blood of children they abducted from the Comet arcade as part of the child sex ring, and now she's rejuvanated.
 
Segnosaur said:
Well she was, but then she drank the blood of children they abducted from the Comet arcade as part of the child sex ring, and now she's rejuvanated.
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As opposed to Trump who weighs 239 pounds and is in absolutely excellent physical shape.*

* as testified to by his lackey doctor
 
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