Cont: The Biden Presidency (4)

Right. The cost issue is major, and there are hard limits to what you can do there with many battery components existing in limited quantities on the Earth's surface. Substituting ICE cars for electric cars will not be enough in and of itself for this and many other reasons.

We need to get to a model where the vast majority of Americans do not have to drive at all. Not easy since our existing infrastructure has been built around cars for almost a century.

Also, our culture values cars in a way that other countries do not. It has made it very hard to build an infrastructure of mass transit.
 
Biden wisdom.
This really came from the head of the EPA, not Genocide Joe himself. I just put it in his thread because it is "his" EPA and one could presume that they discussed this ahead of time, and it seems to have been about a year since Hidin' Biden himself has done anything in particular.

Those that can't afford gas or groceries and are struggling to pay the rent...
The actual sinking state of the economy, as opposed to the rosy one they want to gaslight us with, is indeed a problem for him, only made worse by the surreal gaslighting about it. But it's a different subject from the one we're on at the moment.

...buy a $100K electric car.
False, in at least three ways: there are no proposals to require anybody to buy an electric car, electric cars are already less expensive than you claim, and this proposed EPA rule would reduce their costs even more by widening the market for them and thus giving manufacturers incentive to widen their marketing approach.

He should have promoted hybrids.
To the extent that a proposed EPA rule is Genocide Joe promoting any particular vehicle type at all, what you're saying "should" happen is exactly what's happening. The main effect of this rule would be incentivizing hybrids, especially plug-ins, by incentivizing both them and electrics together (and thus also the choice between them) in a country where electrics just aren't usable for most people and the power system isn't ready for too many of them yet.

there are hard limits to what you can do there with many battery components existing in limited quantities on the Earth's surface.
I have run into a few articles lately about ways to make batteries of more easily available materials, but I don't know how many years those would be from the market, or how their charging schedule or power-to-weight ratio would compare.

We need to get to a model where the vast majority of Americans do not have to drive at all. Not easy since our existing infrastructure has been built around cars for almost a century.
Also, our culture values cars in a way that other countries do not. It has made it very hard to build an infrastructure of mass transit.
I've been in places like that. The convenience is definitely cool. But the amount of leaves & plants & wind & sky in my life being about equivalent to the world of Soylent Green would be lifelong torture.

And even aside from the psychological-health thing, it only kicks the can down the road anyway. Public transit based on fossil fuels runs into the same problem as personal vehicles based on fossil fuels, just not at the same time. The only way to avoid it is electric vehicles, on either scale, so the scale is not the point; only the electrification is.

(Also, when we run out of fossil fuel, we also run out of the raw material from which we make our roads and all plastics, but nobody ever seems to talk about that...)
 
I have run into a few articles lately about ways to make batteries of more easily available materials, but I don't know how many years those would be from the market, or how their charging schedule or power-to-weight ratio would compare.

There are a bunch of different battery technologies out there, but not all are suitable for all purposes. Between issues of cost, mass, volume, charging and discharging rates, energy retention times, lifespan and number of charging cycles, there are a lot of things to consider.

I am really excited about the possibilities of cheap Iron-Air batteries for domestic, industrial, and electrical grid use. Probably won't find their way into your cellphone though.

[I've been in places like that. The convenience is definitely cool. But the amount of leaves & plants & wind & sky in my life being about equivalent to the world of Soylent Green would be lifelong torture.

And even aside from the psychological-health thing, it only kicks the can down the road anyway. Public transit based on fossil fuels runs into the same problem as personal vehicles based on fossil fuels, just not at the same time. The only way to avoid it is electric vehicles, on either scale, so the scale is not the point; only the electrification is.

You can make a pretty good city without making a smog-filled Trantor. We devote a lot of space in our cities for cars, either parking or road capacity. Devote half of that to green space and you can still come out ahead of the deal.
(Also, when we run out of fossil fuel, we also run out of the raw material from which we make our roads and all plastics, but nobody ever seems to talk about that...)

Don't worry about it. Pretty much everyone who has crunched the numbers says that one way or another we will have pumped enough CO2 into the atmosphere to collapse civilization long before we "run out of fossil fuel".
 
Using such pejorative names as Genocide Joe and Hiden' Biden only benefits Trump. It's fine if you disagree with his position on the Gaza situation but do it without giving more fodder to the MAGA crowd.
 
Dishonest issues.

I'd be the first to tell you that inflation has hurt a lot of people. But the President isn't responsible. As much as some people would like to blame Biden, that would be like blaming him for the sunset.

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.

Biden isn't responsible for Russia attacking Ukraine and creating major problems in the energy market.

He's not responsible for the high interest rates. Those are set by the Fed.

Food prices have risen, but that is the result of higher transportation costs and a drop in agricultural production due to the lack of immigrants to pick the crops. There are consequences to the xenophobia.

Trump promises he's going to solve the problem, but of course he doesn't say how. That's because he doesn't have a clue. He'll take credit if inflation slows more which it is likely to do. But if it doesn't, he'll blame Biden.

It should be kept in mind also that Congress hasn't done a damn thing other than trying to block anything and everything Biden is trying to do. And why? Because Trump has made it clear that troubles improve his chance for election.
 
The giants of every industry make up the consumer prices. if the big 3 raise prices, the other makers cannot supply enough for those that want to buy a cheap product or store brand product. Example of toilet paper:
The United States toilet paper industry is dominated by three companies: Georgia-Pacific, Kimberly-Clark, and Procter & Gamble, which together make up almost 80% of the market.
 
Continuing. If one of the giants raises the price of a roll of paper by 2 dolllars, the other two will feel they can sell more. But if they raise theirs by 1 dollar, they still sell more.

Rinse and repeat.
 
Using such pejorative names as Genocide Joe and Hiden' Biden only benefits Trump. It's fine if you disagree with his position on the Gaza situation but do it without giving more fodder to the MAGA crowd.

It's insane, frankly. Trump would be a 100 times worse on Mideast policy then Biden.
BTW Genocide Joe has been taken up by some on the riight.
Extremists of any ilk are crazy.
Was not thrilled by the demonstarors in New York yesterday before Biden's fund raider chanting "Death To The USA" and "Qassam is on it's way to the USA" (qassam being the military arm of HAMAS)either.
 
Dishonest issues.

I'd be the first to tell you that inflation has hurt a lot of people. But the President isn't responsible. As much as some people would like to blame Biden, that would be like blaming him for the sunset.

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.

Biden isn't responsible for Russia attacking Ukraine and creating major problems in the energy market.

He's not responsible for the high interest rates. Those are set by the Fed.

Food prices have risen, but that is the result of higher transportation costs and a drop in agricultural production due to the lack of immigrants to pick the crops. There are consequences to the xenophobia.

Trump promises he's going to solve the problem, but of course he doesn't say how. That's because he doesn't have a clue. He'll take credit if inflation slows more which it is likely to do. But if it doesn't, he'll blame Biden.

It should be kept in mind also that Congress hasn't done a damn thing other than trying to block anything and everything Biden is trying to do. And why? Because Trump has made it clear that troubles improve his chance for election.

If you want to blame anybody for inflation, b;ame Putin, since his invasion of Ukraine basically shut off one of the world's main suppliers of Grain, creating a shortage, and that is what really got inflation started.
But then Trumpers love Putin so don't hold your breath.
 
It's insane, frankly. Trump would be a 100 times worse on Mideast policy then Biden.
BTW Genocide Joe has been taken up by some on the riight.
Extremists of any ilk are crazy.
Was not thrilled by the demonstarors in New York yesterday before Biden's fund raider chanting "Death To The USA" and "Qassam is on it's way to the USA" (qassam being the military arm of HAMAS)either.

:boggled:

So were the demonstrators pro Palestinians or pro Hamas or what???
 
If you want to blame anybody for inflation, b;ame Putin, since his invasion of Ukraine basically shut off one of the world's main suppliers of Grain, creating a shortage, and that is what really got inflation started.
But then Trumpers love Putin so don't hold your breath.

I don't think a food/grain shortage was the main underlying issue. Putin, OTOH, was probably responsible for gas prices rising. But I'm not positive he needed to do anything there.

Shipping delays leading to shortages, over-buying things like toilet paper, corporate decisions to take advantage of all the shortages and raising prices of all sorts of things, food being high on the list of manufactured shortages in addition to other actual temporary shortages.

I don't think listing all the details of this or that here in a thread about Biden and inflation. Just call the inflation multifactorial.
 
:boggled:

So were the demonstrators pro Palestinians or pro Hamas or what???

Problem is there is a pretty big overlap and the lines merge.
Real problem is that those crictical of srael actions have adapted a "No enemies to the left" tactic and ally themselves with some real nutcases.
 
It's insane, frankly. Trump would be a 100 times worse on Mideast policy then Biden.
BTW Genocide Joe has been taken up by some on the riight.
Extremists of any ilk are crazy.
Was not thrilled by the demonstarors in New York yesterday before Biden's fund raider chanting "Death To The USA" and "Qassam is on it's way to the USA" (qassam being the military arm of HAMAS)either.

It's not the first time I've seen the far-right and the far-left horseshoe effect on ISF.

 
Biden on Twitter yesterday:

“Donald, my offer to play golf still stands.

I’ll let you take three strokes off your game if you carry your own bag.”

:D
 
I don't think a food/grain shortage was the main underlying issue. Putin, OTOH, was probably responsible for gas prices rising. But I'm not positive he needed to do anything there.

Shipping delays leading to shortages, over-buying things like toilet paper, corporate decisions to take advantage of all the shortages and raising prices of all sorts of things, food being high on the list of manufactured shortages in addition to other actual temporary shortages.

I don't think listing all the details of this or that here in a thread about Biden and inflation. Just call the inflation multifactorial.

That was actually mostly the Sauds. Despite Putain trying to flood the market in the months leading up to the invasion (to build cash reserves he's since spent) the prices rose sharply because the Sauds were throttling OPEC production to keep prices high (they've on economy otherwise and with a social system dependent on lots of bread and circuses). Yes there were a few spikes early in the war, but prices settled to pre war levels fairly quickly and pretty much stuck there since.
 
Millions of voters failing to understand that when they voted for Biden in 2020 they also picked him for 2024 candidate. Polls fail to capture this. And to get these voters to see themselves in the voting booth November.

Sill screaming the "someone else" vote.
https://www.npr.org/2024/04/07/1243049811/biden-voter-disbelief-age-disinformation
"The surge in doubts about political facts is being fueled by an ecosystem of media and social media built up around amplifying disinformation, said Melissa Ryan, a consultant who specializes in combating disinformation.

"I mean, we are all conspiracy theorists now," said Ryan. "We are just in this place, societally, where everything is a conspiracy theory and no one trusts anyone."
 
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Has Biden started Botoxing? I hadn't seen much of him on TV for a while, then I saw an interview and all I can say is he looks... different.
 

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