Cont: The Biden Presidency (3)

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TurkeysGhost said:
Right, we have the same understanding of how things really work.

My point is been not that this investigation is merited or likely to demonstrate anything even close to being illegal, my point is more broadly about how this low level corrupt state of affairs is a large part of why such a large portion of the public seems to not care about Trump's outrageous corruption. When the whole game is rigged, it's not surprising that so many are willing to tolerate overt corruption from "their guy"

My larger point is about why this status quo is a large part of why Dems are generally unable to effectively respond to Trump, or at least not as well as you might hope or expect. That's why this fascination with Hunter Biden, even if it's never going to result in any real corruption scandal that leads to arrests, is so galvanizing or dispiriting, depending on your political persuasion. This whole charade is bad law enforcement for certain, but that doesn't mean it's not good politics.
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This isn’t hypocrisy. Joe Biden isn't my guy. Unless people can point out more than Hunter leveraging his father's name, I don't care.
 
johnny karate said:
I for one will definitely not be voting for Hunter Biden in 2024.
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Me neither. I doubt whether Hunter will even appear on the ballot. It's ridiculous to think that any major political party would ever put forward, as their candidate for President, someone as corrupt as

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On second thought, it's ridiculous to think that the Democratic Party would nominate Hunter Biden.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
It certainly helps defang some of the criticism that the Biden admin is quite clearly keeping Hunter at arm's length (unlike Trump's approach to staffing the entire federal government with his children). They've actually threaded the needle quite nicely in my viewing, keeping Hunter away from any real access to the Biden admin (at least, as far as the public can tell) while also taking a quite sympathetic and reasonable stance about his many personal failings, especially his drug use. It's telling that this fishing expedition has to focus on the Obama admin days, because as far as I can tell Hunter's ability to cash in on his proximity to power is greatly diminished in the present.

It's always funny seeing the right wing tabloids trying to make an issue how Biden is not cruel to his own son about being an addict, as if being a good, understanding dad is somehow a character failing. This country is full of drug users and addicts too, so I'm guessing Biden responding gracefully to this kind of thing makes him far more relatable. Who in this country doesn't know someone that has struggled with addiction?
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I don’t think President Biden could be politically or legally handling this situation better.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
Right, we have the same understanding of how things really work.

My point is been not that this investigation is merited or likely to demonstrate anything even close to being illegal, my point is more broadly about how this low level corrupt state of affairs is a large part of why such a large portion of the public seems to not care about Trump's outrageous corruption. When the whole game is rigged, it's not surprising that so many are willing to tolerate overt corruption from "their guy"

My larger point is about why this status quo is a large part of why Dems are generally unable to effectively respond to Trump, or at least not as well as you might hope or expect. That's why this fascination with Hunter Biden, even if it's never going to result in any real corruption scandal that leads to arrests, is so galvanizing or dispiriting, depending on your political persuasion. This whole charade is bad law enforcement for certain, but that doesn't mean it's not good politics.
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Is it good politics, though? It seems that Republicans are all-in on the Hunter Biden allegations and I’m not aware that’s it’s gaining much traction outside of the base.
 
johnny karate said:
Is it good politics, though? It seems that Republicans are all-in on the Hunter Biden allegations and I’m not aware that’s it’s gaining much traction outside of the base.
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Hard to say. It certainly gives their base something to be interested in while they are out of power and passing the time. Whether or not it has much impact beyond that is harder to know.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
Hard to say. It certainly gives their base something to be interested in while they are out of power and passing the time. Whether or not it has much impact beyond that is harder to know.
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It’s hard for me to imagine it will. Unless Republicans can actually provide evidence that links any of this to the President, I doubt normal people will care. And considering the Keystone Kops antics of Republicans so far, I’m not holding my breath.
 
johnny karate said:
It’s hard for me to imagine it will. Unless Republicans can actually provide evidence that links any of this to the President, I doubt normal people will care. And considering the Keystone Kops antics of Republicans so far, I’m not holding my breath.
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I tend to agree, but it's hard to try to get outside my own head to see how the "general public" might react. But my intuition is also very much that this looks as desperate and pointless to the average Joe as it actually is.
 
For one day only, the Biden campaign has bought "Dark Brandon" ad space on the Fox News.com website.

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The ad links to a site where you can donate to his campaign.
 
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It had other Wagner officials on it too.

Looks like someone rid Putin of that troublesome priest.

There's video of the plane falling without a wing.

 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Nikki Haley said outright in the debate tonight that Putin shot down the plane.
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So far, US Intelligence sees no evidence it was a surface-to-air missile, but that doesn't mean it it wasn't sabotaged. It's certainly logical to think this was no accident and that Putin was behind it.

The U.S. Department of Defense on Thursday said there was currently no information to suggest that a surface-to-air missile took down the plane presumed to be carrying Russian mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin.

Air Force Brigadier General Patrick Ryder, a Pentagon spokesperson, offered no evidence or further details on what U.S. officials believe caused the crash as he made his remarks at a Pentagon news conference.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...down-prigozhins-presumed-plane-us-2023-08-24/
 
I've already lost track of some of the references and where and when I saw them, but I seem to recall someone reporting that there had been a bunch of maintenance done on the plane before takeoff, which makes one wonder if there was some kind of sabotage. Let me just check those wing attachment bolts for tightness....
 
Stacyhs said:
So far, US Intelligence sees no evidence it was a surface-to-air missile, but that doesn't mean it it wasn't sabotaged. It's certainly logical to think this was no accident and that Putin was behind it.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...down-prigozhins-presumed-plane-us-2023-08-24/
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Shot down, blew up ...how does such pedantic verbiage matter? I don't even recall what her exact words were.

Haley said Putin was behind it. [/discussion]

Enjoy Happy Arrestmas Day and laughing at Trumpy's mugshot.
 
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