Cont: The Biden Presidency (3)

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Gulliver Foyle said:
That thought crossed my mind after the first set was found. With the second set being found in Biden's garage, that's much less likely.
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I suspect that the thought crossed a lot of people's minds, really. It's the kind of thought that is best backed with actual evidence, though, before treating it as anything other than empty speculation, because it's not at all parsimonious when we have no relevant data that actually indicates such meaningfully.
 
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Crazy Chainsaw said:
Impeachment for a Misdemeanor durring the Obama administration, don't think that will happen.
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(1) Impeachment doesn't require a crime.
(2) These characters are hyper-eager to impeach and they don't give a rat's ass about legitimacy.

The only reason they might pass is if makes Trump look bad, seeing as what he did is a lot worse.

They're already trying to connect it to Hunter, demanding to know if he had access to the documents.
 
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It really is 'funny' how Republicans like Rep. James Comer and Rep. Mike Turner totally waved away and excused Trump's having classified documents but are now having conniption fits over Biden's having them. Turner even said it's possible they could hold hearings on Biden, but did not support hearings on Trump. Former GOP Rep. Joe Walsh called Comer's and Turner's remarks "shameless" and "shameless hypocrisy" and "shameless partisanship".

Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.
 
Biden should resign.

But I think every president has done something worthy of resignation, so it isn't special for me to say Biden should
 
Stacyhs said:
Do you think what Trump...not his aides, not his lawyers, but TRUMP personally did and is doing regarding the docs at Mar-a-Lago are equivalent to what we know about the documents found in Biden's garage and Penn Biden office? And if so, why?
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I repeat - what Trump did is irrelevant.

Stacyhs said:
My goodness. Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I asked a civil question. And it was civil... unless you can point out to me exactly where it wasn't?
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It was perfectly civil, just annoying.

Until the Dems and their supporters learn to ignore the hell out of what Trump and the Republicans are doing and create a sensible plan for running the country and holding the presidency and majorities in the Houses, they'll achieve nothing.

Looking back in anger is no use to anyone, unless it's about learning from mistakes, and that seems to be a lost art in the 21st century.

We're discussing Biden, and just because Trump was a lying, cheating, worthless piece of orange excrement doesn't excuse Biden making dumb mistakes.


Stacyhs said:
Oh, and you might want to look up what "Tu quoque" is, because my post isn't an example of one.
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I'm not going to argue about it, I'll just post the generally accepted version of what tu quoque means, and raising Trump's behaviour while discussing Biden's is a classic example of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
 
The Atheist said:
This thread has changed from being a tired thread about a tired old man to comedy gold.

I'm picking the Dumbocrats are continuing to sit on their thumbs instead of urgently finding a credible candidate for 2024, which by my reckoning, is next year.

Tic, tick, tick...
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The Atheist said:
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Do you think what Trump...not his aides, not his lawyers, but TRUMP personally did and is doing regarding the docs at Mar-a-Lago are equivalent to what we know about the documents found in Biden's garage and Penn Biden office? And if so, why?
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I repeat - what Trump did is irrelevant.
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Let me see if I can explain to you why I asked you that question. You described this thread as changing " from being a tired thread about a tired old man to comedy gold." Was your 'comedy gold' referencing how confidential documents have been found in Biden's office and garage? To me, that implies you find it funny because of the controversy over the Trump confidential document case. Therefore, I wanted to know why you found it such "comedy gold".

The Atheist said:
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
My goodness. Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I asked a civil question. And it was civil... unless you can point out to me exactly where it wasn't?
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It was perfectly civil, just annoying.
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Do you always reply to civil questions with uncivil responses like "What the **** does Trump have to do with it

The thread is about Biden, it was Biden who screwed up here - what Trump did or didn't do is irrelevant."

The Atheist said:
Until the Dems and their supporters learn to ignore the hell out of what Trump and the Republicans are doing and create a sensible plan for running the country and holding the presidency and majorities in the Houses, they'll achieve nothing.

Looking back in anger is no use to anyone, unless it's about learning from mistakes, and that seems to be a lost art in the 21st century.

We're discussing Biden, and just because Trump was a lying, cheating, worthless piece of orange excrement doesn't excuse Biden making dumb mistakes.
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Well, at least this gives me a clue as to your thinking which is what I was looking for in my original question. You're making an assumption that BIDEN made 'dumb mistakes' when it came to the documents found in his Penn Biden office and his garage. As far as we know, HE made no mistakes and that the mistakes were made by those whose job it was to return those documents to the proper authorities. If Biden handed them to the proper aide and that aide didn't follow procedures, that is not a "dumb mistake" by Biden.


The Atheist said:
I'm not going to argue about it, I'll just post the generally accepted version of what tu quoque means, and raising Trump's behaviour while discussing Biden's is a classic example of it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
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Wonderful! And I'll just leave you with this:

Asking for your opinion on if the two situations are equivalent and, if so, why is just that: asking for your opinion and reasoning. I was not discrediting or attacking Trump's behavior which would have been a tu quoque.
 
The budget issue. Making deals is possible.

Trump was a special case, in that he was difficult to deal with. The other party was reluctant to go with him as he would change his mind two weeks later.

Biden is more likely to deal with the GOP. Presidents are more likely to do deals, Clinton did it all the time, than other politicians. But you have to treat them nicely in the first term. The GOP is not doing that.
 
House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer continues his 'shameless' hypocrisy:

Tapper asked Comer on Sunday if he cared more about the mishandling of classified documents when it relates to Democrats – a reference to the GOP response to Trump, whose Mar-a-Lago residence was searched by the FBI last summer after repeated attempts to retrieve classified documents.

“Absolutely not,” Comer responded. “Look, we still don’t know what type of documents President Trump had.”
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Yes, we do "know what type of documents President Trump had” : “top secret,” “secret” and “confidential.”

“My concern is how there’s such a discrepancy in how former President Trump was treated by raiding Mar-a-Lago, by getting the security cameras, by taking pictures of documents on the floor. … That’s not equal treatment, and we’re very concerned and there’s a lack of trust here at the Department of Justice by House Republicans. That’s the outrage.”
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Comer cannot be unaware of the fact that Mar a Lago was searched because Trump was not cooperating with the National Archives or the DOJ in returning the documents. MaL was not 'raided'; it was searched with a warrant because the DOJ correctly suspected Trump had more documents despite his lawyer's letter saying there were no more at MaL. If Biden and his lawyers had not cooperated and lied, they'd be given 'equal treatment' and be "raided", too.

His and other GOP distrust of the DOJ is pure projection due to Trump's weaponization of the DOJ during his administration.

Asked by Tapper on Sunday if he was accusing Biden or anyone on his team of breaking the law, Comer said, “We don’t know exactly yet whether they broke the law or not.”
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But we do know Trump broke the law by intentionally keeping the documents and claiming they were his despite many requests to return them by the N. Archives and DOJ.


“I will accuse the Biden administration of not being transparent. Why didn’t we hear about this on November 2, when the first batch of classified documents were discovered?” he added. “Joe Biden used as his closing argument during the midterm elections that Republicans were a threat to democracy. And he cited the fact that President Trump mishandled the documents.”
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No, Biden most certainly did notsay that "Republicans were a threat to democracy." What he did say was that MAGA and election-denying Republicans were a danger to democracy.
I've looked through several media reports on the Nov. 2 speech by Biden and have found no reference to Trump mishandling documents in it.

I also note that Comer refers to the current president as "Joe Biden" but the former president as "President Trump". That is no accident.
 
Lately, rather than arguing with the morons, I am taking Randi's approach. The conversation is a lot shorter that way and just as useless.

"That's interesting. What makes you believe that is true?"

Ask any of these people about the significance of Hunters laptop. Blank stares.

Ask them to define socialism and communism.

Ask them what makes them believe the election was stolen.

They're heads are empty.

What is CRT? You just told me you are against it, I don't know what that is, so tell me.

Who is MTG? Gaetz? Why do you trust a man who is orange with pink eyes, an off-the-rack blue suit, and impossibly stupid hair? He's ******* Bozo The Clown!

It's like one of those "man on the street" interviews where everyone gives dumb answers, if any.
 
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I have to agree that many MAGAites haven't a clue what CRT is other than it's 'bad', couldn't tell you what socialism and communism are, much less their differences other that they're 'bad'. They couldn't tell you what it so important about Hunter's laptop other than it shows his father did something 'bad'. They'll tell you the election was stolen due to rigged voting machines, thousands and thousands of stolen mail-in ballots, massive fraud by election workers and something about 'dumps' and 'suitcases', etc. And maybe 'Venezuela'.
 
Stacyhs said:
Let me see if I can explain to you why I asked you that question. You described this thread as changing " from being a tired thread about a tired old man to comedy gold."
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Let me put it in the simplest terms.

Against all predictions and history, the Dems somehow retained the majority of power in Congress.

Biden was finally starting to find some measure of popularity.

The he decides to lie down on the floor with his legs open: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hous...assified-docs-case_n_63c473d1e4b0d6f0ba05ea76

You probably don't think it's funny at all, but I find it all ******* hilarious.
 
The Atheist said:
Let me put it in the simplest terms.

Against all predictions and history, the Dems somehow retained the majority of power in Congress.

Biden was finally starting to find some measure of popularity.

The he decides to lie down on the floor with his legs open: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hous...assified-docs-case_n_63c473d1e4b0d6f0ba05ea76

You probably don't think it's funny at all, but I find it all ******* hilarious.
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And your link is supposed to show what exactly? To put it in the simplest terms; I don't think it shows what you think it does.
Comer? I refer you to posts #1164 and #1170.
 
The Atheist said:
Let me put it in the simplest terms.

Against all predictions and history, the Dems somehow retained the majority of power in Congress.

Biden was finally starting to find some measure of popularity.

The he decides to lie down on the floor with his legs open: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hous...assified-docs-case_n_63c473d1e4b0d6f0ba05ea76

You probably don't think it's funny at all, but I find it all ******* hilarious.
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I too sometimes make up little jokes in my head that only I think are funny.
 
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