The Biblical Realities of Hell

[Ladewig]

Although something slamming into the Earth is similar in a future event.
But it won’t be a total extinction event or planet killer…one third of humanity survives that event.

Whoa. Did you just predict that 2/3 of the people on earth will be killed? Do you have a time frame for this event? Is that going to happen before January 2013 !?


Also, are you sticking with 2011's earthquakes will be greater in number than 2010's or are you prepared to predict a percentage increase (such as at least a 20% increase)?

 

[edge]

Often when posters don't want to bet money, they will make a bet in which the winner will get to write whatever he or she wants in the loser's personal signature file for a set number of months. For instance if we were to bet and I won, I would have you add a line to your sig that said "Dowsing is nonsense and here is a website that explains why WWW.yaddayadda." Conversely, you could include a line in my sig that said, "The Bible reveals great truths and contains amazing prophecies. By December 2012 no one will be able to seriously doubt God's great powers."¹
I think those willing to bet with you will need only to describe the precise amount of increase. For instance, if you are going to claim a 1 % rise fits your claim and you should win if that happens, no one will bet with you because a 1 % variance is common for year-to-year statistics.


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1) I offer apologies if I have mischaracterized your beliefs about the Bible.

Highlighted above, No problem.

Lets say unmistakably higher way past the 1% variance, with no doubt...

You will have to also post a link... I'll have to think of the best one, probably Bob Coys’ sermons which are absolutely great right on and done with humor, one of the best.

If anybody’s interested:
http://www.lightsource.com/ministry/active-word/?gclid=CI6ftrDOo6YCFYpN2god8CdvnQ/
We watch him on TV and the reason is, he's good.
Maybe him and his ministry.
I will post back to JREF I assume?

 

[edge]

Whoa. Did you just predict that 2/3 of the people on earth will be killed? Do you have a time frame for this event? Is that going to happen before January 2013 !?


Also, are you sticking with 2011's earthquakes will be greater in number than 2010's or are you prepared to predict a percentage increase (such as at least a 20% increase)?

Just repeating what's in there compared to what Paul is saying, that prediction is in Revelation already.
The similarities of an killer asteroid.

All natural disasters except technical disasters, that’s what that graph displays.
It will be unmistakably noticeable and probably more than a 20% increase compared to 2010.

 

[Ladewig]

You will have to also post a link... I'll have to think of the best one, probably Bob Coys’ sermons which are absolutely great right on and done with humor, one of the best.

Yes. That is fair.

Lets say unmistakably higher way past the 1% variance, with no doubt...

You seem to have missed the point of my post. Before anyone will bet we will need you to state a specific and quantifiable numerical increase that goes beyond "unmistakably higher way past 1%."

Are you willing to say there will be at least a 15% increase? A 25% increase? A 35% increase? A 45% increase?

It is imperative that bettors understand your exact position, because they will be looking at the variance of this measurement and using that measurement to determine the probability that an increase of this magnitude will occur by chance.

 

[edge]

Not an impressive prediction. Even money.

That makes it fair does it not?
A 50% chance either way.

But if you look at these I am alreay in the hole and I seen one where 2011 is a little more than half way to 2010 :

 

[Foster Zygote]

That makes it fair does it not?
A 50% chance either way.

But if you look at these I am alreay in the hole and I seen one where 2011 is a little more than half way to 2010 :

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Edge, please stay away from casinos, they will eat you alive.

 

[Paulhoff]

Well yes if they are not recorded then how would we know, it also fair to say we could go from 1975 to 2012-13.
There's a graph that displays thaton that link, that one shows the same thing?
We weren’t around back then who cares?

Who cares???????? A scientist, for one. How can you made a statement about what is happening now on the earth without having a long term idea of what has happened over a long period of time. If you were an alien and landed on the earth in the middle of an earthquake and took right off again, would your report to your home world be that the earth shakes all the time.

Paul

 

[Paulhoff]

The things that are reveled to us and count, deals with us, not brontosaurus.
Although something slamming into the Earth is similar in a future event.
But it won’t be a total extinction event or planet killer…one third of humanity survives that event.

This is how you show that you are clueless and are like most other die in the woods religious people, to the understanding of how everything should be looked into. You have already come to the conclusion “god” and make things fit that idea. That is not how science works. Science finds information and then looks for the best fit to that, and if that idea passes by making predictions etc it is kept. Science doesn't care if it is something is liked or not, the theory it is what it is and not what someone wants it to be.

Paul

 

[edge]

Who cares???????? A scientist, for one. How can you made a statement about what is happening now on the earth without having a long term idea of what has happened over a long period of time. If you were an alien and landed on the earth in the middle of an earthquake and took right off again, would your report to your home world be that the earth shakes all the time.

Paul

I am an alien.

 

[edge]

This is how you show that you are clueless and are like most other die in the woods religious people, to the understanding of how everything should be looked into. You have already come to the conclusion “god” and make things fit that idea. That is not how science works. Science finds information and then looks for the best fit to that, and if that idea passes by making predictions etc it is kept. Science doesn't care if it is something is liked or not, the theory it is what it is and not what someone wants it to be.

Paul

Who do you think created dinosaurs?
Science?

 

[AdMan]

Who do you think created dinosaurs?
Science?

No.
Who do you think created them?
God?

Wrong.

 

[edge]

No.
Who do you think created them?
God?

Wrong.

The wonderful slime from ooze.

 

[edge]

This is how you show that you are clueless and are like most other die in the woods religious people, to the understanding of how everything should be looked into. You have already come to the conclusion “god” and make things fit that idea. That is not how science works. Science finds information and then looks for the best fit to that, and if that idea passes by making predictions etc it is kept. Science doesn't care if it is something is liked or not, the theory it is what it is and not what someone wants it to be.

Paul

He blinded me with SCIENCE....

 

[AdMan]

He blinded me with SCIENCE....

Well, it's been clear for a long time that you certainly don't understand it.

 

[devnull]

Not an impressive prediction. Even money.

Not even that. If you assume that detection/reporting techniques are forever improving, the chances that there will be a greater number of *reported* earthquakes in 2012 is almost a dead cert

 

[edge]

This is how you show that you are clueless and are like most other die in the woods religious people, to the understanding of how everything should be looked into. You have already come to the conclusion “god” and make things fit that idea. That is not how science works. Science finds information and then looks for the best fit to that, and if that idea passes by making predictions etc it is kept. Science doesn't care if it is something is liked or not, the theory it is what it is and not what someone wants it to be.

Paul

No one here is trying to get you to believe in God.
And I am not arguing that science is a bad thing or that it doesn’t have a function to perform, good or bad.
And I agree everything about God and spirituality has to be looked at too.
If this type of banter makes you angry maybe you shouldn't come in here.
Because your repeating it like a broken record.
And that is science is your everything that you love about the world, the universe, everything that it brings so good for you...
I know there is more than this even S.H knows this when he says there are multiple universes; I believe that about science...string theory.
We could name three of those universes.

 

[devnull]

die in the woods

"Dyed in the wool" perhaps Paul?

Just an FYI, no insult intended

 

[AdMan]

"Dyed in the wool" perhaps Paul?

Just an FYI, no insult intended

I saw that too, but I like "die in the woods". Quite evocative.

 

[AdMan]

I know there is more than this even S.H knows this when he says there are multiple universes; I believe that about science...string theory.
We could name three of those universes.

If you are referring to Stephen Hawking, your understanding of what he is saying is near zero.

 

[edge]

I saw that too, but I like "die in the woods". Quite evocative.

I was just talking about where to die and how; if I get too old a bear taking me out would perhaps be better than more infirmities.