Cont: The behaviour of US police officers - part 2

[lobosrul5]

NYPD official social media account posts flyer encouraging people to prevent bike theft by locking up their bikes to, among other things, street sign posts.

9 days later on the same account, they post a picture of a police van full of bikes they have cut free from sign posts, claiming that locking up to street signs is illegal (a dubious claim in itself)

https://twitter.com/OzzieAraujo/status/1435433730131341313

If the NYPD, thru official communication says to do something, then punishes people for doing so, thats a very clear case of entrapment. Not that anyone will be punished or held responsible for it.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Oh no you see it's totally not entrapment because we're invoking the landmark act of "I say so, now I dare you do do something about it."

 

[Matthew Best]

NYPD official social media account posts flyer encouraging people to prevent bike theft by locking up their bikes to, among other things, street sign posts.

9 days later on the same account, they post a picture of a police van full of bikes they have cut free from sign posts, claiming that locking up to street signs is illegal (a dubious claim in itself)

https://twitter.com/OzzieAraujo/status/1435433730131341313

Not the same account. One is the 114th Precinct, the other is the 107th Precinct. I have no idea where either of those are, and it's still terrible, but I'm told over and over again on this board that individual police forces are completely separate from each other.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Not the same account. One is the 114th Precinct, the other is the 107th Precinct. I have no idea where either of those are, and it's still terrible, but I'm told over and over again on this board that individual police forces are completely separate from each other.

Precincts within the same police force are not. These are just administrative divisions of the NYPD, not distinct and individual police forces.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Not the same account. One is the 114th Precinct, the other is the 107th Precinct. I have no idea where either of those are, and it's still terrible, but I'm told over and over again on this board that individual police forces are completely separate from each other.

My mistake.

Separate precincts of the NYPD are part of the same police force.

 

[Armitage72]

Not the same account. One is the 114th Precinct, the other is the 107th Precinct. I have no idea where either of those are, and it's still terrible, but I'm told over and over again on this board that individual police forces are completely separate from each other.

Google says they're both northern Queens.
"The 114th Precinct is located in the northwestern portion of Queens, and covers Astoria, Long Island City, Woodside, and Jackson Heights."
"The 107th Precinct serves a portion of Northern Queens, containing Fresh Meadows, Cunningham Heights, and Hilltop Village."

It looks like they're about 8-9 miles apart, by road.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Three Loveland police supervisors signed off on an officer’s use of force after he threw a 73-year-old woman with dementia to the ground in June 2020, according to an internal police report released Tuesday by the woman’s attorney.

Assistant Chief of Police Ray Butler watched the body camera footage of now-former Officer Austin Hopp violently arresting Karen Garner — conduct for which Hopp now faces a felony assault charge — and wrote that Hopp’s use of force was “necessary, reasonable and within policy,” according to the internal police report.

Chief of police lied about supervisors not knowing about this incident. 3 supervisors signed off on barbaric use of force used for the arrest, which has later resulted in the cop being charged with felony assault.

The thorough vetting through multiple levels of police leadership appears to contradict Chief Robert Ticer’s assertion that police did not become aware of the severity of the incident until Garner filed a federal lawsuit in April 2021. The officer broke Garner’s arm and dislocated her shoulder during the arrest, according to the lawsuit.

“We found out, nearly eight months later, that this had occurred,” Ticer said during a May 19 news conference. “We took swift action at that point… I don’t know if we would have found out about that without the federal lawsuit. Perhaps if it would have come in through a different channel — but that’s how we were notified.”

Oops all bad apples again.

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/09/07/loveland-police-austin-hopp-excessive-force/

 

[ponderingturtle]

Cops lied about not knowing about this incident. 3 supervisors signed off on barbaric use of force used for the arrest, which has later resulted in the cop being charged with felony assault.

Hey did they get to laugh at hearing her bone break and then locking her in handcuffs for hours? Cop humor is the best.

 

[lobosrul5]

Chief of police lied about supervisors not knowing about this incident. 3 supervisors signed off on barbaric use of force used for the arrest, which has later resulted in the cop being charged with felony assault.



Oops all bad apples again.

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/09/07/loveland-police-austin-hopp-excessive-force/

“We took swift action at that point… I don’t know if we would have found out about that without the federal lawsuit."

*cough* bull **** *cough*

 

[TurkeysGhost]

AP investigation reveals pattern of Louisiana State Police covering up misconduct and complaints of excessive force.

The most violent videos languished for years, lost or ignored in a digital vault. Louisiana State Police troopers and top brass alike would often look the other way, even as officers took to official messaging channels to banter about their brutality.

In one video, white troopers can be seen slamming a Black man against a police cruiser after finding marijuana in his car, throwing him to the ground and repeatedly punching him — all while he is handcuffed.

In another, a white trooper pummels a Black man at a traffic stop 18 times with a flashlight, leaving him with a broken jaw, broken ribs and a gash to his head. That footage was mislabeled and it took 536 days and a lawsuit for police to look into it.

And yet another video shows a white trooper coldcocking a Hispanic drug trafficking suspect as he stood calmly by a highway, an unprovoked attack never mentioned in any report and only investigated when the footage was discovered by an outraged federal judge.

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An AP review of internal investigative records and newly obtained videos identified at least a dozen cases over the past decade in which Louisiana State Police troopers or their bosses ignored or concealed evidence of beatings, deflected blame and impeded efforts to root out misconduct.

https://apnews.com/article/police-beatings-louisiana-video-91168d2848b10df739d73cc35b0c02f8

“Hyper-aggressiveness is winked upon and nodded and allowed to go on,” said Andrew Scott, a former Boca Raton, Florida, police chief and use-of-force expert who reviewed videos obtained by AP. “It’s very clear that the agency accepts that type of behavior.”

Most of those beaten in the cases AP found were Black, in keeping with the agency’s own tally that 67% of its uses of force in recent years have targeted Black people — double the percentage of the state’s Black population. AP reporting revealed that a secret panel the state police set up this year to determine whether troopers systematically abused Black motorists was just as secretly shut down, leaving the agency blind to potential misconduct.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Remember when the Philly riot cops surrounded a woman's car during a protest, broke all the windows, dragged her out, beat her, arrested her, then took a photo with her terrified child for a propaganda hit piece?

The city just agreed to pay her 2 million.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-settles-millions-rickia-young-unrest-20210913.html

 

[TurkeysGhost]

From an article about food delivery drivers organizing after being fed up with being screwed by their employers or violently robbed in the streets

Getting the NYPD to actually care about real crime is like pulling teeth:

About 30 people showed up to the park at 72nd and Amsterdam and rode honking to the precinct. There, they blocked the street, shouting “No more robberies!” to nonplussed cops. Eventually, a Spanish-speaking officer came out. Tohom stepped forward and listed robbery after robbery — Monday at 150 Central Park, yesterday at 100th, another at 67th, knives, guns, machetes, thefts they reported months ago and received no response about, bikes stolen with GPS that police refused to pursue — as the crowd yelled “Help us.”

https://www.curbed.com/article/nyc-delivery-workers.html

The NYPD is one of the most well funded and sophisticated police forces on the planet, but getting them to get off their asses to actually help solve a crime requires a minor miracle.

 

[erlando]

Remember when the Philly riot cops surrounded a woman's car during a protest, broke all the windows, dragged her out, beat her, arrested her, then took a photo with her terrified child for a propaganda hit piece?

The city just agreed to pay her 2 million.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-settles-millions-rickia-young-unrest-20210913.html

Last week, Young filed a lawsuit against the National Fraternal Order of Police, which two days after the incident posted a photo of a Philadelphia police officer holding Young’s then-2-year-old son. Philadelphia Police said investigators could not determine who took the photo.

The nation’s largest police union shared the image on Facebook and Twitter alongside captions that read: “This child was lost during the violent riots in Philadelphia … the only thing this Philadelphia Police officer cared about in that moment was protecting this child.”

The group removed the posts within hours, saying in a statement the next day they took them down after learning “of conflicting accounts of the circumstances under which the child came to be assisted by the officer.”

The lawsuit, filed by Young and her child, seeks damages for invasion of privacy and infliction of emotional distress.

I hope she wins this one as well. Make those lying bastards pay too.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Worst people on the planet teaming up for a collaborative project:

Tampa police called for hundreds to be evicted. Entire families lost their homes.
Officers sent notices to landlords detailing arrests and encounters with their tenants that put families at risk of eviction even when charges were later dropped.

Since 2013, the Tampa Police Department has taken a hands-on role at more than 100 apartment communities, sending notices to landlords when their tenants are arrested or stopped by officers and encouraging their eviction.

The program, known as Crime-Free Multi Housing, was marketed to landlords as a way to keep violent crime and drug and gang activity off their properties.

https://www.tampabay.com/investigations/2021/09/15/tampa-police-called-for-hundreds-to-be-evicted-entire-families-lost-their-homes/

 

[Ethan Thane Athen]

Deleted because I didn't read the article properly before posting. Mea Culpa.

 

[Andy_Ross]

The police department in Waterloo, Iowa, is in a showdown with its first Black police chief over the removal of the department's longtime insignia that resembles a Ku Klux Klan dragon, the Associated Press reported.

Joel Fitzgerald has faced backlash for his strides to reform Waterloo police that have intensified since last fall when the City Council began pushing for the removal of the department's emblem. The emblem, a red-bodied, green-eyed griffin, which has adorned officers' uniforms since the 1960s, has been compared to a KKK symbol.

Opinions on the emblem have been split, with the Waterloo Commission on Human Rights saying it evoked fear and distrust among some due to its resemblance to a hate group symbol. The Waterloo Police Protective Association, which represents officers, denied racist intent and protested against its removal.

The City Council, in a 5-2 vote last week, ordered the department to remove the symbol from uniforms by the end of September.

https://www.newsweek.com/police-dep...er-insignia-that-resembles-kkk-dragon-1630239

 

[JoeMorgue]

Opinions on the emblem have been split, with the Waterloo Commission on Human Rights saying it evoked fear and distrust among some due to its resemblance to a hate group symbol. The Waterloo Police Protective Association, which represents officers, denied racist intent and protested against its removal.

If we're being honest I don't really see all that much similarity in the symbol outside of the vague "They are both a dragon (if we want to put on the nerd glasses the police emblem has an obvious beak so its technically a Griffin, but that's iTs nOT a DrAGON it's a WYRim! levels of stupid) and the yellow background.

That being said I'm not overly impressed that the response from the police department seems to be another bog standard "I recognize it bothers you, but I'm going to keep doing it and provide no reason beyond 'because you told me not to.'" piece of contrarianism. Like you can tell the image only meant anything to them when someone else had a problem with it.

I mean maybe just go "While we don't agree that the image is racist and accept no blame in that regard, we acknowledge that the symbol could be misinterpreted that way and cause harm to the community, so we will discontinuing usage of the symbol." You could just, crazy idea, do something nice instead of going "Well I'm not technically in the wrong so I shouldn't change my behavior at all."

There's levels between "Agreeing to stop doing something" and "Agreeing to stop doing something and begging for forgiveness while genuflecting."

 

[Babbylonian]

If we're being honest I don't really see all that much similarity in the symbol outside of the vague "They are both a dragon (if we want to put on the nerd glasses the police emblem has an obvious beak so its technically a Griffin, but that's iTs nOT a DrAGON it's a WYRim! levels of stupid) and the yellow background.

That being said I'm not overly impressed that the response from the police department seems to be another bog standard "I recognize it bothers you, but I'm going to keep doing it and provide no reason beyond 'because you told me not to.'" piece of contrarianism. Like you can tell the image only meant anything to them when someone else had a problem with it.

I mean maybe just go "While we don't agree that the image is racist and accept no blame in that regard, we acknowledge that the symbol could be misinterpreted that way and cause harm to the community, so we will discontinuing usage of the symbol." You could just, crazy idea, do something nice instead of going "Well I'm not technically in the wrong so I shouldn't change my behavior at all."

There's levels between "Agreeing to stop doing something" and "Agreeing to stop doing something and begging for forgiveness while genuflecting."

US police departments are racist organizations. Given that, it's obvious that the officers of this department like that citizens may feel intimidated by the symbol. Anything to **** with non-whites and liberals is worthwhile to cops.

 

[Armitage72]

The Minnesota Department of Public Safety would like drivers to keep their license, registration, and insurance card in a transparent plastic sleeve, hanging in a highly visible location, so the police are less likely to panic and shoot them during a traffic stop. If only there was some other way to prevent police officers from randomly killing motorists.

Our troopers, along with several law enforcement agencies across the state, want to make it easier for drivers to store the information and for law enforcement to see when motorists are reaching for documents.

We recently purchased some Not-Reaching Pouches to help reduce deadly force encounters between law enforcement and citizens during traffic stops. The pouches store a driver’s license, and insurance card in plain sight in the vehicle on an air vent or other visible location.

 

[Aridas]

The Minnesota Department of Public Safety would like drivers to keep their license, registration, and insurance card in a transparent plastic sleeve, hanging in a highly visible location, so the police are less likely to panic and shoot them during a traffic stop. If only there was some other way to prevent police officers from randomly killing motorists.





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To poke at another PO'd take on that subject to add to that a little...

Minnesota Police Admit They Can't Be Trusted to Not Murder You

Oh, and then? They doubled down by trotting out the mother of the man they murdered to tout the “please don’t murder me, Officer Krupke” bag. As if they couldn’t be any more tone-deaf.

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PS: In Minnesota you are not required to carry a copy of your vehicle registration in the car. License and proof of insurance is all you need. So the stupid messaging isn’t even right.