Cont: The behaviour of US police officers - part 2

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Police inspector facing charges for illegally using police database system to engineer traffic stop for fiancé's ex-boyfriend, who share custody of a 9 year old child.

RPD Investigator Faces Criminal Trial After Allegedly Using State Police Database to Harass Male Rival

A Redding Police Department investigator has been charged with six criminal misdemeanors after he allegedly used the California Law Enforcement Telecommunications System (CLETS) to have a male rival’s brand-new Dodge pickup towed and impounded.

The RPD inspector, Joshua Siipola, allegedly accessed the CLETS database five times to look up information on Michael Peters, the ex-boyfriend of Siipola’s fiancé, Summer Gagnon. Peters and Gagnon broke up nine years ago, but share joint custody of their 9-year-old son.

While searching the database, Siipola discovered Peters’s driver’s license was suspended for multiple DUIs and allegedly used that information to engineer a traffic stop at the location where Peters and Gagnon exchange custody of their son. Peters’ pickup truck was towed and impounded as a result.

https://anewscafe.com/2021/07/17/redding/rpd-investigator-faces-criminal-trial-after-allegedly-using-state-police-database-to-harass-male-rival/
 
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An interesting discussion on Glen Lourie's substack about a case where a police officer shot an unarmed white teenager named Hunter Brittain.


Here’s something I don’t often say: hats off to Al Sharpton and Benjamin Crump.

As fans of TGS are no doubt aware, I’ve taken a dim view of Sharpton and Crump in the past. I think they’ve acted irresponsibly in promoting mistaken ideas about the police and black communities. I think they’ve sometimes fanned the flames of racial hysteria when they could have used their platforms to exert a moderating influence. And let’s not even talk about the Tawana Brawley fiasco.

But it seems that Sharpton and Crump may be changing their tune. Last month, a white teenager, Hunter Brittain, was shot and killed by a police officer in Beebe, Arkansas under murky circumstances. Hunter’s family asked Crump and Sharpton to take their case, and the pair agreed, despite their having been involved almost exclusively in issues involving black families.


https://glennloury.substack.com/p/broadening-the-conversation-on-police
 
A broader look at why cops go rogue:
So, most everywhere cops are responding to 911 calls. And because response time remains a key metric used for pay and promotions—woe be the police chief presiding over slow response times—cops are under pressure to stabilize any situation they find and get back “in service” to respond to the next 911 call. They’re doing triage, responding to symptoms rather than solving problems—and they know it. The patrol car will be back later this week to deal with that abusive marriage or that mentally ill person or that drunk or that drug dealer or that noise complaint, and nothing will change. In cop-speak, these are repeat customers.

“One thinks of 911 as a major advance in American law enforcement, but it had several less than beneficial consequences,” write former New York and Los Angeles top cop Bill Bratton and Peter Knobler in their new book, The Profession. “In our haste to get to every call and handle them quickly, cops began to lose the intimacy of their relationship with the neighborhood they were policing.”

And one consequence is that cops now have little interaction with the neighborhood’s solid citizens—the school kids, the local businessmen, the ladies sitting on the stoops. No time for that. Since 911 calls drive everything, the overwhelming majority of folks cops deal with on a day-to-day basis are going to be agitated. They’re angry. Frustrated. Traumatized. Injured. Drunk. High. Some are dying. And some are violent. In crime-ridden inner-city neighborhoods, a disproportionate percentage of these folks, for complex reasons that no doubt include racism, may be people of color.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2021/07/14/the-vexing-obstacle-to-police-reform-a-cops-miserable-life/
 
I think it's got a good point going there--but not against the general idea of rapid response. HOW rapid response is designed (and how performance is measured) can make a big difference. Just giving up and leaving people in crisis to fend for themselves wouldn't seem like much of an improvement.


Part of the writer's point is that many 911 calls are not true emergencies, but people don't have anyplace else to call. If other resources were available, the police could focus on the emergencies, and minor property crimes, family disputes etc. might be dealt with other ways.
Over the past decade or so, for instance, cities like New York, Philadelphia, Boston, San Jose, and Denver have taken pressure off 911 with a new 311 number for non-emergency municipal services—like for handling a dead animal or an abandoned vehicle. There’s an increasing realization as well that too many problems have been dumped on the cops, so police departments are working more and better with social service and health care agencies to deal with the homeless and the mentally ill.
 
Over the past decade or so, for instance, cities like New York, Philadelphia, Boston, San Jose, and Denver have taken pressure off 911 with a new 311 number for non-emergency municipal services—like for handling a dead animal or an abandoned vehicle.

Philadelphian here. Just to clarify, you are supposed to call 911 for anything that needs the police; emergency or not. You call 911 if someone is trying to break into your house. You call 911 if someone stole a package off your doorstep two hours ago and just want to file a report.

They use 911 as a way of tracking and prioritizing everything. We're constantly told that if you don't call 911, as far as the police are concerned, it pretty much didn't happen.

But yeah, we do have 311 that works as a centralized number to call for other municipal service issues as well as working as what is essentially a phone directory for the city, including the police. You'd call 311 to get in contact with police for things like questions or setting up security for an event - that sort of thing.
 
Wrongful death civil trial begins 6 years after Troy Goode was killed in police custody via positional asphyxiation. Goode was intoxicated on LSD and was wandering the streets.

The prosecution told the jury police used a taser and a police dog on Goode before hogtying him and strapping him face-down on a stretcher.

Prosecutors say Goode, who had asthma, was deprived of oxygen, and the manner in which first responders handled his apprehension is what led to his death, that Goode suffocated and died from lack of oxygen.

No cops were criminally charged for the killing.

https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/investigations/i-team/friends-still-hoping-for-justice-in-southaven-police-excessive-force-case/522-44b30429-9654-460c-9f8e-c6ed17c5f967
 
Maybe they should stop hiring the school bullies.

//Slight hijack, but it does fall into the general topic/theme of the thread//

I actually think that's slightly backwards. As in there's a lot more people in LEO positions who got shoved in the metaphorical locker back in 4th grade than who did the shoving.

There's a lot more "Let me see you give me a purple nurple now Jimmy Glick from Ms. Rosenstein's biology class!" in the attitude of cops than not.
 
//Slight hijack, but it does fall into the general topic/theme of the thread//

I actually think that's slightly backwards. As in there's a lot more people in LEO positions who got shoved in the metaphorical locker back in 4th grade than who did the shoving.

There's a lot more "Let me see you give me a purple nurple now Jimmy Glick from Ms. Rosenstein's biology class!" in the attitude of cops than not.

Are you sure about that? Because the bullies tend to be the ones who are bigger and stronger. The weaker kids rarely pump iron in my experience.
 
Are you sure about that? Because the bullies tend to be the ones who are bigger and stronger. The weaker kids rarely pump iron in my experience.

No they get bitterer and bitterer and then get jobs where they get to carry guns and have the authority of the state behind them so they don't feel weak anymore.
 
//Slight hijack, but it does fall into the general topic/theme of the thread//

I actually think that's slightly backwards. As in there's a lot more people in LEO positions who got shoved in the metaphorical locker back in 4th grade than who did the shoving.

There's a lot more "Let me see you give me a purple nurple now Jimmy Glick from Ms. Rosenstein's biology class!" in the attitude of cops than not.

What is your evidence for this?
 
Seems more probable to me that a couple years in high school of getting stuffed into lockers, or doing the stuffing, probably pales into comparison to the culture of brutality that cops spend decades of their life stewing in.

Plenty of fights happened in my high school, but I don't recall any involving people kneeling on someone's back until they asphyxiated or examples where someone got repeatedly tasered until they died.

I don't think recruits are bringing this baggage with them.
 
You don't become a cop unless you want to control others and be violent to them against their will. It's kind of in the job description.
 
Part of the writer's point is that many 911 calls are not true emergencies, but people don't have anyplace else to call. If other resources were available, the police could focus on the emergencies, and minor property crimes, family disputes etc. might be dealt with other ways.

Yes, and thats why I'm all for (PARTIAL!) defunding of the police and moving that money to other public departments. Sometimes you need a cop. But some calls will be better handled by a social worker, or animal control, or a crime scene investigator (who need not be a LEO).
 
You don't become a cop unless you want to control others and be violent to them against their will. It's kind of in the job description.

Or, from a different perspective, you want to help the community by making it safer. It'd be like saying people doctors only because they want to either make a lot of money or fondle people's genitals.
 
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