The Amero

[jaydeehess]

methinks, Minadin, that ronpaulisright simply will not address topics that are too tough for him to fit into his conspiratorial mind.

To your point, if it can be shown that the coin he saw pictures of are no more than a novelty item produced by an artist responding to a 'what if', it would illustrate the folly of his original post and cast doubts on his contentions.

To my point, he would have to attempt to back up a bald contention of his, that there are Biblical passages that either directly, or in interpretation, state that in the year which we date as 2015 the antichrist will rise to world power and domination and that said antichrist is at this time known as Prince William of England. Given that I know for fact that William is not mentioned by name and that the year 2015 is also not literally named , anywhere in the Bible it is quite obvious that such contention is an interpretation by someone. Addressing my questions would require that rpir let us all see the reasoning used in this interpretation and he knows that it will open that reasoning up to close inspection. His mind may not be able to cope with the arguements that will inevitably result.

Then again he could prove me wrong , or at least attempt to do so.

So far, nada, zip, zilch, zero, goose egg, nothing, has been put forward.

 

[Tricky]

I have a signed piece of paper by my CT brother-in-law that says that the Amero will be the unit of currency by 2010. There is no money on this wager. I just want to hand it to him and say, "You are not very good at predicting things. Why should I believe anything you say?" And yes, he's a big Ron Paul worshipper.

 

[ronpaulisright]

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=199273 http://www.askquestions.org/details.php?id=11597&gclid=CO6-tP2LlJMCFQ_8iAod0TXsyg

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58091

looks like all signs point to.......AMERO!!!! or americo?

 

[Confuseling]

I have a signed piece of paper by my CT brother-in-law that says that the Amero will be the unit of currency by 2010. There is no money on this wager. I just want to hand it to him and say, "You are not very good at predicting things. Why should I believe anything you say?" And yes, he's a big Ron Paul worshipper.

I think just for fun you should promise to wear an 'Investigate 911' t-shirt one day per week for a month if you lose.

(and you're not allowed to hide in a cupboard)

ETA: actually, to hell with it - there's only a couple of years to go. Every day for a month! I'll bet if you do...

 

[Drudgewire]

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=199273 http://www.askquestions.org/details.php?id=11597&gclid=CO6-tP2LlJMCFQ_8iAod0TXsyg

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58091

looks like all signs point to.......AMERO!!!! or americo?

Wow, three links to websites without any credibility is all it takes to convince you?

http://www.ufodigest.com/
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/index.htm
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/photohome.asp


OMG THAT MEANS UFOS ARE REAL AFTER ALL!!!

 

[Cuddles]

corsair, you fail to see the big picture.

I may not see the big picture

Oops.

Woah! Something big like that and zeitgeist COMPLETELY misses it?! Jesus... -_-

No, no, he's not arriving for another seven years.

 

[WildCat]

I thought it was more the other way around — financial companies wanting more freedom to create various kinds of loan products. Subprime mortgages were aggressively marketed.

Of course they were, they were under government pressure to issue such mortgages! This story is typical: http://www.usmayors.org/uscm/news/press_releases/press_archive.asp?doc_id=98

What I find curious is how little emphasis there's been on examining all the factors which led to the subprime debacle and what steps can be taken to ensure it doesn't happen again. Most of the discussion by pundits and politicans seems to be about treating the symptoms of the disease without really addressing the underlying causes of the disease.

Politicians aren't eager, in general, to point the finger of blame whan a mirror is required to do so.

 

[CurtC]

RPIR, could you please explain to us what the "articles of zion" are? We've all been waiting and waiting.

 

[Travis]

RPIR, could you please explain to us what the "articles of zion" are? We've all been waiting and waiting.

Unfortunately when he reads your post all sees is:

RPIR, could you please explain to us what the "qualities of smartness and total Ron Paul awesomesness" are? We've all been waiting and waiting.

 

[ronpaulisright]

methinks, Minadin, that ronpaulisright simply will not address topics that are too tough for him to fit into his conspiratorial mind.

To your point, if it can be shown that the coin he saw pictures of are no more than a novelty item produced by an artist responding to a 'what if', it would illustrate the folly of his original post and cast doubts on his contentions.

To my point, he would have to attempt to back up a bald contention of his, that there are Biblical passages that either directly, or in interpretation, state that in the year which we date as 2015 the antichrist will rise to world power and domination and that said antichrist is at this time known as Prince William of England. Given that I know for fact that William is not mentioned by name and that the year 2015 is also not literally named , anywhere in the Bible it is quite obvious that such contention is an interpretation by someone. Addressing my questions would require that rpir let us all see the reasoning used in this interpretation and he knows that it will open that reasoning up to close inspection. His mind may not be able to cope with the arguements that will inevitably result.

Then again he could prove me wrong , or at least attempt to do so.

So far, nada, zip, zilch, zero, goose egg, nothing, has been put forward.

ok, Watch the ring of power series. here's the antichrist clip.

 

[jaydeehess]

ok, Watch the ring of power series. here's the antichrist clip.

I reiterate for the third or fourth time, rpir; Note the newly bolded words

Please also note that if you are going to simply link to a site in which this is explained I require it first in your own words. Too many times have i been told to "read this", respond to it, and then be told that I was attacking the wrong thing or some such. I do not want the goalposts moved. I want your own consise, best arguement first.

For reference I will be using the New King James version, please let me know what version you will be using.

I will watch the video once you have complied to my original request.

I do not want more bare assertions, I want the actual reasoning that is used to arrive at these conclusions.
For instance where in the Bible are there passages that can be construed as indicating that 2015 will be the time that the antichrist, in the body of William, will take the world over? What are those passages?
What are the 'articles of Zion" and what specifically do they say in this regard?


I would wager that you simply do not know the answer to any of these questions and that when I do watch the video they will not be answered in it either. Instead I will see the same bald contentions you make here. I will see that you have swallowed a line of thought without bothering to question it.

Prove me wrong!

 

[ronpaulisright]

I reiterate for the third or fourth time, rpir; Note the newly bolded words



I will watch the video once you have complied to my original request.

I do not want more bare assertions, I want the actual reasoning that is used to arrive at these conclusions.
For instance where in the Bible are there passages that can be construed as indicating that 2015 will be the time that the antichrist, in the body of William, will take the world over? What are those passages?
What are the 'articles of Zion" and what specifically do they say in this regard?


I would wager that you simply do not know the answer to any of these questions and that when I do watch the video they will not be answered in it either. Instead I will see the same bald contentions you make here. I will see that you have swallowed a line of thought without bothering to question it.

Prove me wrong!

well I watched the whole ring of power series and it basically a zionist religious type theory/prophecy thingy dated back to the times of the jews and egyptians and how the jews had to disguise themselves as egyptians so that they can claim high class royalty. It is a destiny, a blueprint that has been exercised from generation to generation dating back to biblical times and they reference amenhut and abraham and how there is no PROOF of abraham but there IS proof of his egyptian equivalent amenhet. So it is a pretty far out conspiracy theory but it is possible I guess? Evil disguising itslef and as good etc. etc. In the docu. they place a lot of truth and a lot of facts. While I was watching It I was also cross referecing the claims via wikipedia, where they had no knowledge of it but I gave the producer the benefit of the doubt that the producer was an insider and knew more about the big picture than the laymen, with that being said her is what' listed about the producer: As a child, she had many arguments between her parents over her father's ring, inscribed with "G", a compass and square. At a later age, years of intensive research led her to the identity , history and plans of a power "so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocking, so complete, so pervasive" that even the known 'leaders' of the world are careful not to speak in "condemnation" of it.

 

[ronpaulisright]

The first two minutes are solid and were the reason for my posting of the entire clip.

 

[jaydeehess]

It seems quite obvious that rpir simply does not have the organs to come up with any rationale behind his contentions that 2015 is predicted in the Bible as the year that the ant-christ, in the person of Prince William of England, will establish a one-world gov't under his dictatorship.

The video he posted simply reiterates what rpir has stated here and offers no references to back up the claims.

Is there anyone else lurking about who might wish to inform me and others what passages in the Bible would be used to back these claims? Furthermore, does anyone wish to explain what the 'articles of Zion' are?

ETA, I am watching the second video now. So far6:40 in and still no Biblical quotes that explain how the time of 2015 is deduced, and of course so far rpir won't tell me either.

 

[Drudgewire]

Furthermore, does anyone wish to explain what the 'articles of Zion' are?

A sinister plot designed to subversely agitate the masses.

Not by the Jews, by the guy playing this rpir character using a play on words and never mentioning it again to keep everyone up in arms about it for pages on end.

 

[jaydeehess]

It seems that google comes up with 4 references for "articles of Zion" The first one is the JREF forums in where it is brought up by rpir, the second is a reference to "The Matrix" The last one does mention "Articles of Zion" as being a popular book in the Middle East. Odd then that such popularity does not translate into internet talk of it enough to have google find more that a paltry 4 references.

But then rpir will now continue in his charade.

 

[gnome]

He did clarify eventually in this thread (sort of):

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112864&page=2

 

[jhunter1163]

well I watched the whole ring of power series and it basically a zionist religious type theory/prophecy thingy dated back to the times of the jews and egyptians and how the jews had to disguise themselves as egyptians so that they can claim high class royalty.

Wasn't there a movie with Charlton Heston in it that had this exact plot?

 

[jaydeehess]

He did clarify eventually in this thread (sort of):

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112864&page=2

Well isn't that special........... That makes two of us who have asked rpir to give us his own take on something he professes belief in, and two of us for whom he refuses to even make the attempt.

He again just says 'watch the video, watch the video'. He doesn't even make good parrot. At least the parrot memorizes a line or two. What he does have in common with the parrot is a complete lack of ability to draw his own conclusions or form an original thought based on what he sees and hears.
,,, of course he could at least attempt to prove me wrong...............

However I asked him what passages in the Bible can be construed as prophecy of William being the antiChrist and going for world domination in the year 2015.

So far rpir does not have enough conviction in his beliefs to do so. He does not even seem to know where, specifically, I can find such information in the 'docuementary' he seems to use as his personal holy writ.
,,, of course he could at least attempt to prove me wrong...............

 

[jaydeehess]

Wasn't there a movie with Charlton Heston in it that had this exact plot?

Yep, "The Ten Commandments", based loosely on the book "Exodus" which is more well known as part of the compendium of 68 books, poems and letters put together by Constantine and Jerome.