The All Purpose Hillary Clinton Thread

[Jrrarglblarg]

Sophistry. Yale should be banned from posting for a fortnight.

 

[varwoche]

Hillary has run her campaign on anti-Trump slogans. Policy? What policy?

She has put forth far more policy proposals than Trump. It's not even close.

Here is one comment by her. "Trump spends more time on his hotels than campaigning."

Is this supposed to be evidence that she hasn't put forth policy?

I hear that she said "Pass the ketchup" at lunch recently. I mean really, what sort of policy is that?

I expect no defenses or explanations -just more attacks on Trump personally in reply to this post. Or on me.

Cry me a river. The factual insight provided by this sorry post is so lacking that it falls short of homeopathic.

 

[varwoche]

I read the excuses for Hillary being secretive and that she has not been convicted.

Al Capone was also secretive, and never got convicted for his mob crimes. The US had to get him on tax fraud.

Hillary has run her campaign on anti-Trump slogans. Policy? What policy?

Here is one comment by her. "Trump spends more time on his hotels than campaigning."

More time? Is this just hyperbole, or a downright lie? No, it is okay when Hillary engages in smear and dirt to avoid policy and her record.

I expect no defenses or explanations -just more attacks on Trump personally in reply to this post. Or on me.

I forgot to mention... could you please continue to indicate when the information you post comes from tarot card readings? That might help readers determine how much weight to assign to your whimsical musings. TIA.

 

[PartSkeptic]

Hilited: There is one result for a search of that quote. This thread; your post. Is it possible you are paraphrasing? I find nothing similar in a search for "Clinton Criticizes Trump Hotel", Clinton Comments Hotel Opening" or "Clinton Trump Hotel".

Today on CNN. Hillary in her plane. Any slight paraphrasing is incidental.

 

[PartSkeptic]

I forgot to mention... could you please continue to indicate when the information you post comes from tarot card readings? That might help readers determine how much weight to assign to your whimsical musings. TIA.

After Trump wins, will I get more respect? Or will it be written off as a fluke?

 

[jimbob]

I read the excuses for Hillary being secretive and that she has not been convicted.

Al Capone was also secretive, and never got convicted for his mob crimes. The US had to get him on tax fraud.

Hillary has run her campaign on anti-Trump slogans. Policy? What policy?

Here is one comment by her. "Trump spends more time on his hotels than campaigning."

More time? Is this just hyperbole, or a downright lie? No, it is okay when Hillary engages in smear and dirt to avoid policy and her record.

I expect no defenses or explanations -just more attacks on Trump personally in reply to this post. Or on me.

Clinton has put forward policies and they are far more thought through than Trump's which are often impractical or contradictory.

One policy difference: Clinton won't try to build a wall between the US and Mexico. Trump probably wouldn't either but he has said that he would do so.

The Republican papers that have endorsed Clinton are not endorsing her because she's convinced them that general Democrat ideas are better than Republican ideas, they've endorsed her because Trump is a uniquely bad candidate. Clinton would be remiss to not point out Trump's flaws. Even to many Democrats, they are more important in this election than Clinton's obvious experience and competence.


Also, Trump does seem to be spending more effort in trying to rescue his brand than running for POTUS.

 

[PartSkeptic]

Shoot the messenger (thought to be Russia) and forget the message?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/26/p...n-podesta-teneo-clinton-foundation/index.html

A memo written by one of Bill Clinton's closest aides highlights the lucrative speaking deals the former president had with some of the biggest companies in the world.

The 2011 memo, marked "Attorney-Client Privilege" was sent by Doug Band to two attorneys who were doing a review of the way the Foundation was being run; it was included in the cache of stolen emails released by WikiLeaks this week.

In the memo, Band details how he set up for-profit deals for the former president, both involving money and "as appropriate, in-kind services for the President and his family -- for personal travel, hospitality, vacation and the like."

Band's memo covers 2001 to 2011, during which time "President Clinton's business arrangements have yielded more than $30 million for him personally with $66 million to be paid out over the next nine years, should he choose to continue with the current engagements."

Do some of you guys benefit from Hillary becoming President?

How many of you are paid to be in the Clinton Online Troll Factory?

 

[dudalb]

Shoot the messenger (thought to be Russia) and forget the message?




Do some of you guys benefit from Hillary becoming President?

How many of you are paid to be in the Clinton Online Troll Factory?

We benefit from not having a narcisstice, egomaniacal,bigoted,misogying idiot as President.
It is amazing that you fail to see any faults at all in your Messiah.
And Tarot cards are an accurate predictor of political elections (or accurate predictions of anything:

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

After Trump wins, will I get more respect? Or will it be written off as a fluke?

Let us cross that bridge when we get there.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Shoot the messenger (thought to be Russia) and forget the message?




Do some of you guys benefit from Hillary becoming President?

How many of you are paid to be in the Clinton Online Troll Factory?

Nobody. Intelligent people don't need to be paid to support an intelligent candidate. How much do the Putinistas make for throwing fnords at Americans?

 

[Crossbow]

Shoot the messenger (thought to be Russia) and forget the message?




Do some of you guys benefit from Hillary becoming President?

I expect to benefit by not having that incredibly stupid, idiotic, greedy, lying Donald J. Trump as President. That is how I, and the rest of the nation, expect to benefit by having a President Clinton.

How many of you are paid to be in the Clinton Online Troll Factory?

[sarcasm]

Well, ...

The fact of the matter is that I am one of the paid Clinton Online Trolls. Also, I am one of the paid Trump Online Trolls.

That way I get two paychecks.

By the way, if you want to know how I manage both of these conflicting jobs, then send me $100.00 and I will tell you how it is done.

[/sarcasm]

 

[Bob001]

Pardon my Freudian slip. Supposed to be elected by the people. Actually appointed (annointed?) by the rich establishment who control the media to demonize Trump.
....

The media created Trump. It gave Trump literally billions of dollars worth of free air time. The media collectively treated Trump as an entertaining side show and he played them like a fiddle. If the media had been doing their job from the beginning, challenging his claims and investigating his history, Trump wouldn't have gotten through the first primaries. And what's "demonizing" him now are his own words from his own mouth. If the "establishment" controlled anything, Trump would not be the nominee.

 

[PartSkeptic]

I expect to benefit by not having that incredibly stupid, idiotic, greedy, lying Donald J. Trump as President. That is how I, and the rest of the nation, expect to benefit by having a President Clinton.

Stupid - your opinion (influenced by the media and wrong)
idiotic - your opinion (influenced by the media and wrong)
greedy -your opinion (influenced by the media and wrong)
lying - your opinion (influenced by the media and wrong)

You cannot make a reasoned argument for your opinions. For a site that makes big deal of not using ad hominems, the torrent of them from supposed skeptics is incredible.

[sarcasm]

Well, ...

The fact of the matter is that I am one of the paid Clinton Online Trolls. Also, I am one of the paid Trump Online Trolls.

That way I get two paychecks.

By the way, if you want to know how I manage both of these conflicting jobs, then send me $100.00 and I will tell you how it is done.

[/sarcasm]

Nice one.

If it was not sarcastic I would take issue with your lack of morality.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

The media created Trump. It gave Trump literally billions of dollars worth of free air time. The media collectively treated Trump as an entertaining side show and he played them like a fiddle. If the media had been doing their job from the beginning, challenging his claims and investigating his history, Trump wouldn't have gotten through the first primaries. And what's "demonizing" him now are his own words from his own mouth. If the "establishment" controlled anything, Trump would not be the nominee.

Trump has utterly destroyed my conspiracy theory that the GOP has been secretly running the GOP. They obviously were doing no such thing, or we would see evidence of strategic planning and attempts to control outcomes.

 

[PartSkeptic]

The media created Trump. It gave Trump literally billions of dollars worth of free air time. The media collectively treated Trump as an entertaining side show and he played them like a fiddle. If the media had been doing their job from the beginning, challenging his claims and investigating his history, Trump wouldn't have gotten through the first primaries. And what's "demonizing" him now are his own words from his own mouth. If the "establishment" controlled anything, Trump would not be the nominee.

No. Trump created Trump. (Some would say God created Trump but that is a derail).

Trumps plain spoken message resonated, and it got him air time. The media thought he was a buffoon until he won the nomination.

The pro-Hillary media switched from reporting Trump to selectively reporting Trump out of context, and reporting the opinions of anti-Trump "pundits".

Neither Trump nor Hillary are without fault. The media have recently taken to massive reporting of any faults of Trump and under reporting of any faults of Hillary. They maximize the negatives of Trump and minimize the negatives of Hillary.

That is propaganda to achieve an objective. Propaganda works. And this site is testament to its effectiveness.

However, when the cognitive dissonance gets too large with a group of people, that group then see the bias for what it is, and they switch to an opposing side.

You are trying to rationalize the (extreme) bias of mainstream media by portraying them as simpletons just reporting the news. Dream on.

 

[Tony Stark]

No. Trump created Trump. (Some would say God created Trump but that is a derail).

Trumps plain spoken message resonated, and it got him air time. The media thought he was a buffoon until he won the nomination.

The pro-Hillary media switched from reporting Trump to selectively reporting Trump out of context, and reporting the opinions of anti-Trump "pundits".

Neither Trump nor Hillary are without fault. The media have recently taken to massive reporting of any faults of Trump and under reporting of any faults of Hillary. They maximize the negatives of Trump and minimize the negatives of Hillary.

That is propaganda to achieve an objective. Propaganda works. And this site is testament to its effectiveness.

However, when the cognitive dissonance gets too large with a group of people, that group then see the bias for what it is, and they switch to an opposing side.

You are trying to rationalize the (extreme) bias of mainstream media by portraying them as simpletons just reporting the news. Dream on.

Your Fuhrer is an idiotic, deranged piece of **** that constantly spew outrageous nonsense. Most Americans understand that which is why he is going to lose.

But keep crying about media bias.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

PS,

have you ever read a Trump speech or interview?
Not watched or listened to: take the transcript and read it.

And then tell me this is a man who knows his own mind.

 

[Tony Stark]

PS,

have you ever read a Trump speech or interview?
Not watched or listened to: take the transcript and read it.

That's not fair! The media printing Donald's own words, in context, is media distortion because they make him look like an ignorant moron.

 

[acbytesla]

No. Trump created Trump. (Some would say God created Trump but that is a derail).

Trumps plain spoken message resonated, and it got him air time. The media thought he was a buffoon until he won the nomination.

That's not what got him air time. He doesn't speak plainly, he speaks outrageously and offensively. And the media still think he's a buffoon. In fact most people with critical thinking skills think he is a buffoIn.

The pro-Hillary media switched from reporting Trump to selectively reporting Trump out of context, and reporting the opinions of anti-Trump "pundits".

This is false. Even if you reported every word of Trump's speeches you would find them to be nonsensical word salads. I can't believe this idiot got this far. Pundits have been critical of him from the start. They thought he was an offensive buffoon to begin with and finally Trump's boorish behavior took its toll.

Neither Trump nor Hillary are without fault. The media have recently taken to massive reporting of any faults of Trump and under reporting of any faults of Hillary. They maximize the negatives of Trump and minimize the negatives of Hillary.

Hardly, the problem with your analysis is suggesting that their flaws are somehow qualitatively equal. They are not. Hillary is boring, wonkish, and qualified. Trump is a racist, misogynistic, bullying unqualified demagogue and and a danger to our republic. This isn't an opinion. It is objectively true. The media need not tell us this, it is obvious.

That is propaganda to achieve an objective. Propaganda works. And this site is testament to its effectiveness.

However, when the cognitive dissonance gets too large with a group of people, that group then see the bias for what it is, and they switch to an opposing side.

You are trying to rationalize the (extreme) bias of mainstream media by portraying them as simpletons just reporting the news. Dream on.

The cognitive dissonance is clearly with his supporters. Trump can't get through a paragraph without lying, he threatens to jail his opponents and is now actively recruiting people for voter intimidation. He keeps telling his audience "believe me". WHY WOULD WE BELIEVE SOMEONE WHO RARELY TELLS THE TRUTH? He said "believe me I know more than the generals" You'd have to be an idiot to think a 70 year old real estate developer who hasn't spent a day in the military or our intelligence agencies than career military generals. The fat man said a couple of weeks ago that NFL football players were soft.

Me, I'm sick of people apologizing and spinning what he said that day. I've got ears and he usually repeats himself. The man belongs in the funny farm, not the White House.

 

[Bob001]

....
Trumps plain spoken message resonated, and it got him air time. The media thought he was a buffoon until he won the nomination.
....

Here's what that arch-radical extremist media puppet Mitt Romney says about Trump and his "message:"

Here's what I know. Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. He's playing the American public for suckers: He gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat.

His domestic policies would lead to recession. His foreign policies would make America and the world less safe. He has neither the temperament nor the judgment to be president. And his personal qualities would mean that America would cease to be a shining city on a hill.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...arks-on-donald-trump-and-the-2016-race-220176