The 9/11 Conspiracy Facts

Gravy said:
In the main reading room of the New York Public Library, a woman stood up, approached me where I was sitting, and shouted that I was responsible for the Holocaust. I did not refute her allegation. Therefore I am party to the nefarious Nazi persecution, imprisonment, torture, and murder of millions of people.

Or is your logic stupendously flawed?
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Mark are you a stupid magnet?
 
mjd1982 said:
The meat of your post is concerned with SF- I cannot give you "proof" that he is being hassled, other than the "evidence" that he supports th movement, since he goes to meetings, and has said so, yet that he doesnt make a big show of his remarkable and important testimony, because he is gettng hassled.
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Remarkable and important!?!?!?! What a crock. His testimony is so unremarkable and irrelevant that the TM had to blow it way out of proportion to make it seem like it was important. If he is being hassled, why hasn't he gone to the authorities to make it stop? If FT is so worried about Scott's "remarkable and important" story the firing him would bring so much grief, Scott would be able to threaten the same thing to get them to stop hassling him. Besides, why would Scott continue to work for such a dishonest company? Any sane person would have quit by now instead of having to put up with harassment.
ETA- Oh God, our local Einstein has asked for "proof" that I have indeed met Scott...
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And yet you will provide none. Hmmm. :xrolleyes
 
mjd1982 said:
Lol, well, unless you can explain the 4 points listed in #750, which none of your ilk have even dared try, then you will see the facts about such evidence a little clearer, I daresay.
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The only thing worse than being wrong, is being arrogantly wrong.

The points, as have all your points, have been addressed to my satisfaction. You'd probably be shocked at just how many lurkers feel the same way, since in your mind you not only think you are totally right, but so totally right that you can afford to be condescending and arrogant about it.

Your entire movement is exactly the same, which is only one of the many reasons why it will never go anywhere; you all sound like angry little boys.
 
twinstead said:
The only thing worse than being wrong, is being arrogantly wrong.

The points, as have all your points, have been addressed to my satisfaction. You'd probably be shocked at just how many lurkers feel the same way, since in your mind you not only think you are totally right, but so totally right that you can afford to be condescending and arrogant about it.

Your entire movement is exactly the same, which is only one of the many reasons why it will never go anywhere; you all sound like angry little boys.
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Excellent. Well, there is an easy way to find out whose comments are valid, mine our yours.

Go back to #750, and see how many of the 1750 posts since have addressed post #750.

I am willing to bet that you will not answer this question sensibly.
 
mjd1982 said:
You implied that the reason the TM has support/impetus is due to financial gain. i am saying I support it and give it a degree of impetus for zero gain
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Cut the Latin crap!
You know that my stating the "driving force" behind the truth movement as money had nothing to do with you and was a direct answer to the question. The question you asked was not about you.
 
Heres a question, and I've probably asked it before, but..
How could the Neocons ensure that a catastrophic and catalyzing event would occur before the 2001 QDR came out? Just askin'
Mjd, when I ask simple questions like these, there has to be those entrusted as to;

Either the propitiousness of the Neocon plan can guarantee hijackers take over planes or any other scenarios with a deadline determined to be prior to the 2001 QDR report....Or not.

This is the gap I keep refering to. You can have 4000 AQ warnings.......G....A....P......9/11....QDR.
Who ensured (inside job) this catastrophic and catalyzing event would take place BEFORE the 2001 QDR came out?
 
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mjd1982 said:
I'm sorry, but this is taking too much time if you cant use the quote function. Type at the end of it. Repeat
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best avoidance of a post yet

the crusading truther out to avenge the world does not have time to answer questions that someone took the time to ask him because they are awkward, this is why you have nothing and never will

one at a time then

1. did the british authorities investigate the litvinenko case only in the UK?
 
mjd1982 said:
Here you get confused. The policy as a whole will take a long time to implement whatever the scenario.
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Precisely, which is why your ENTIRE thread is pointless.

It'll take a long time to implement whatever the scenario. Ergo, catastrophic event or not, it'll take a long time. So, why would said event be "propitious" ?
 
DGM said:
Cut the Latin crap!
You know that my stating the "driving force" behind the truth movement as money had nothing to do with you and was a direct answer to the question. The question you asked was not about you.
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Oh, excuse me. So the driving force behind the movement is money. What is your proof/basis for saying this?
 
mjd1982 said:
Excellent. Well, there is an easy way to find out whose comments are valid, mine our yours.

Go back to #750, and see how many of the 1750 posts since have addressed post #750.

I am willing to bet that you will not answer this question sensibly.
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For the love of Christ it has been answered dozens of times, just not to your satisfaction! I am willing to bet that no matter who answers it, or how many times it is answered, you will simply decide it wasn't answered sensibly so you don't have to acknowledge it, and can keep claiming it wasn't answered.

I'm also willing to bet that your movement will never go any further than internet forums. Until you folks get some people behind you who aren't rabid ideologues, paranoid schizophrenics, or spoiled, arrogant, pseudo-intellectual teenage boys, I will have the last laugh.

Do yourself and your movement a favor; take your 'so obvious that anybody can see it' evidence to the nearest media outlet or law enforcement agency and GET THIS BALL ROLLING.

Forget us blind shills here. With evidence so compelling, how can any rational people resist?
 
MIKILLINI said:
Heres a question, and I've probably asked it before, but..
How could the Neocons ensure that a catastrophic and catalyzing event would occur before the 2001 QDR came out? Just askin'
Mjd, when I ask simple questions like these, there has to be those entrusted as to;

Either the propitiousness of the Neocon plan can guarantee hijackers take over planes or any other scenarios with a deadline determined to be prior to the 2001 QDR report....Or not.

This is the gap I keep refering to. You can have 4000 AQ warnings.......G....A....P......9/11....QDR.
Who ensured (inside job) this catastrophic and catalyzing event would take place BEFORE the 2001 QDR came out?
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Sorry if i havent fully understood your post, but if you are wondering how they ensured the attack happened before the 2001 QDR, this can be done quite easily. You simply have a plant on the inside of AQ who ensures that things go ahead as planned. If you want to find out more about how the French went about doing this, read this: http://www.911blogger.com/node/7948

It is quite simple to do.

Also, if you have read Thompson's 911 timeline, you will see that the attacks were initially believed by intel to happen around June-July 01.
 
funk de fino said:
best avoidance of a post yet

the crusading truther out to avenge the world does not have time to answer questions that someone took the time to ask him because they are awkward, this is why you have nothing and never will

one at a time then

1. did the british authorities investigate the litvinenko case only in the UK?
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Buddy, I have not ducked 1 post in 2500, dont think I will yours.

The police did go to Russia to investigate the Litvinenko case, which has caused a diplomatic brouhaha. However, you cannot equate this to going to the US to implicate the US gov in killing 3000 of their own people.
 
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Belz... said:
Precisely, which is why your ENTIRE thread is pointless.

It'll take a long time to implement whatever the scenario. Ergo, catastrophic event or not, it'll take a long time. So, why would said event be "propitious" ?
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Because it will make it happen quicker and easier. As the PNAC doc says. Please dont start arguing with that now.
 
Brainache said:
Are you serious?

You haven't noticed all the Truthers selling DVDs, T-shirts, books and BBQ aprons?
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So people sell DVDs and aprons. Tell me how this proves that the driving force behind the movement is selling such.
 
twinstead said:
For the love of Christ it has been answered dozens of times, just not to your satisfaction! I am willing to bet that no matter who answers it, or how many times it is answered, you will simply decide it wasn't answered sensibly so you don't have to acknowledge it, and can keep claiming it wasn't answered.

I'm also willing to bet that your movement will never go any further than internet forums. Until you folks get some people behind you who aren't rabid ideologues, paranoid schizophrenics, or spoiled, arrogant, pseudo-intellectual teenage boys, I will have the last laugh.

Do yourself and your movement a favor; take your 'so obvious that anybody can see it' evidence to the nearest media outlet or law enforcement agency and GET THIS BALL ROLLING.

Forget us blind shills here. With evidence so compelling, how can any rational people resist?
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So, I win my bet for the non sensible response. I will ask the question again.

Go back to #750, and see how many of the 1750 posts since have addressed post #750.

If you can't, you can either keep on squirming, or you can apologise. Its your choice.
 
mjd1982 said:
So people sell DVDs and aprons. Tell me how this proves that the driving force behind the movement is selling such.
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It's a very basic level of inference.

All the major Truth sites are involved in merchandising.

All the major Truth sites routinely ban any skeptics who threaten their market share.

People like Alex Jones, David Ray Griffin, the Loose Change boys, Pilots for Truth, CIT, 911 Mysteries etc etc etc are all marketing at least one product. It is all they do. Not one of them has ever done anything to bring about a new investigation or whatever. They are too busy with all the viral marketing.
 
Brainache said:
People like Alex Jones, David Ray Griffin, the Loose Change boys, Pilots for Truth, CIT, 911 Mysteries etc etc etc are all marketing at least one product. It is all they do. Not one of them has ever done anything to bring about a new investigation or whatever. They are too busy with all the viral marketing.
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How's this for a conspiracy: the truth movement, in general, is a burgeoning industry. The last thing they would ever want is an actual new investigation that may settle things once and for all.

As soon as those very few members who actually honestly want a new investigation and are serious about finding the truth realize this, the better off they'll be. Perhaps then we'll actually get some of this 'incontrovertible' evidence given to law enforcement agencies or major world media outlets.
 
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