The 9/11 Conspiracy Facts

Wrong again:


Your statement makes no requirement of the implication being truth or fiction. Perhaps you should revise it.



Quite simple:
If he would be fired for implicating his employer, and he has not been fired, then he has not implicated his employer.



Lack of public action/comment is also evidence that Scott's statements are false or incorrect, which leads us to the following question:

How can we tell the difference between
a
) Scotts statements being incorrect, and
b
) a cover up taking place?
How would they look different?
1) Your penultimate para would be my nomination for OT idiocy of the month. YOu seem to forget the option that he hasnt been fired since if he did, he would start a lawsuit which would drag up many uncomfortable truths for FT, and the likes of yourself as well btw
2) If he had lied, he would have been fired, for implicatin FT. And dont go saying that he hasnt implicated them, please...
 
Wrong. So far, only 1 person has been shown to believe this. You. Please provide evidence of the so-called "millions."
Good thing or you'd be sacked for your statements about 9/11.

No, most people, even most truthers, require some type of evidence. We require real evidence. You have yet to provide any. Show me one site that list FT as a co-conspirator. Remember, the "Truth Movement" believes that both towers were completely powered down for 36 hours. So, FT doesn't figure into any part of the conspiracy, even from the "Truth Movement" pov. So far, you're FT cover-up and link to the conspiracy has been shown to be a fantasy. Which makes you the fantasist.
I guess this applies to you then.
I'm game if you are.
errr...
 
Simple, yes, true, not even close. All of the surviving employees of FT would know by now that Scott has not been sacked for making his comments. Therefore, there is no reason that they would be afraid of being sacked. What about the employees that no longer work for FT and are not employed by anybody else that has any connection to the WTC? There would be no implication of complicity of their employer there. So, your claim that 100% of everyone else, besides Scott, have not come out to talk about the power down for fear of recriminations is totally baseless. Now I'm starting to wonder if you actually met Scott at all. Why don't you ask him to post on here so he can tell us himself what you don't remember. You did get his email since you had dinner with him and got to know him? That would clear this whole thing up.

Now can we finally move on to WTC 7?
He is taking a lot of crap. People will be aware of this, and will not want to go through it as well. This is a pefectlty understandable sequence of behaviour. And as I have said, were he lying, he would be out on his ass. Of course, none of your fantasist m8s, nor, Gor forbid, you, have been able to explain why not. I will give you and your kind a few more chances, and then back to making you all look stupid on PNAC again.
 
There are humorous moments in Clockwork, just as there are humorous moments in The Deer Hunter.

Only 15 year olds with a predilection for torturing puppies would regard either film as a humorous undertaking.

You are apparently quite sick.
You have no understanding of what "humour" is. You apparently think that it is just belly laughs. This may well be because you are simple. I am willing to excuse this; you maybe can do little about it. I will not, however, excuse the fact that you are lazy
http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0051.html
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/clockwork_orange/about.php
 
???

I know I have said this many times before, but I'll say it again- I dont expect to have to say this again (*sigh*)

The fact that implicit in his comment is the fact that FT are covering up details of a gov plot to kill 3000 US is indicting of FT.

Either contest why you think this to be wrong, instead of indulging in the standard kook pattern of parotting your previous comments, or you may wanna take a break for ur tired little head
This is where your wrong. The government is not covering up anything. This is only in your mind, a delusional fantasy. If you could somehow prove that they were then it would be. GET IT, Wake up. Why is this so hard for you to understand.
 
This is where your wrong. The government is not covering up anything. This is only in your mind, a delusional fantasy. If you could somehow prove that they were then it would be. GET IT, Wake up. Why is this so hard for you to understand.
Lucky that this post can be next to yours so readers can notice its dullness- the post was about Forbes implying that FT were covering up, nothing else.

Dont worry- I dont expect you to be able to offer much in the way of coherence, but just for a larf, I will ask again to tell me why, if he is lying, he hasnt been fired, given that he is implicating his company in the plot.

Dont get nervous- I dont expect any sort of sensible answer from you or your ilk.
 
Yes! I have renamed it "Teh Burning Crazy Guide."
Oh-just so people are aware, I have eviscerated this chap's LC commentary, PNAC section on p3 of this thread. He has been asked to rebut sensibly since then, but has found it beyond him do so. I would like to know, if he cannot, then what hope do any of you have of doing so?
 
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Lucky that this post can be next to yours so readers can notice its dullness- the post was about Forbes implying that FT were covering up, nothing else.

Dont worry- I dont expect you to be able to offer much in the way of coherence, but just for a larf, I will ask again to tell me why, if he is lying, he hasnt been fired, given that he is implicating his company in the plot.

Dont get nervous- I dont expect any sort of sensible answer from you or your ilk.
ERRRRRR............
 
Lol, right, execpt that in Scotts story, he is not implying that these guys were necessarily "cabling". If that were the story, it wouldnt be much of a story, woud it now?

you completely miss the point. Power downs of that scope DO NOT HAPPEN.
http://911review.com/errors/wtc/forbes.html

he is lying that he was informed of a planned power down. in six years no other person conforms there was a power down or even a notice of one. Out of twenty thousand people who worked at WTC no other person comes forward. Are you implying all those twenty thousand were "nudged"
Sorry your bull(rule 8) wont fly here.
 
He is taking a lot of crap. People will be aware of this, and will not want to go through it as well.
That would only be people that know Scott or work with Scott. You have yet to provide any proof that he is "taking a lot of crap." Besides, the people that are no longer working for FT would not fall into this category.
This is a pefectlty understandable sequence of behaviour. And as I have said, were he lying, he would be out on his ass.
You have yet to provide proof of this concept either.
Of course, none of your fantasist m8s, nor, Gor forbid, you, have been able to explain why not.
Errr, we've explained this many times. It would be nice if you would stop moving the goal posts. First you say he would be sacked if he were lying, then you say he would be sacked if were implicating the gov in 9/11, then you go back to the lying claim whenever we explain to you that in any case, Scott would have a huge lawsuit. Then you go and claim that he is implying some sort of complicity of FT in 9/11 and have yet to provide proof of such. You have continuously ignored proof to the opposite. So when are you going to stick to one story so we can stick to one explanation?
I will give you and your kind a few more chances, and then back to making you all look stupid on PNAC again.
You mean that you are going to use the same lack of any logic that is tied to reality to explain what you know nothing about? Of course, you are a foreigner attempting to explain American politics. Your explaining PNAC's new PH being propitious to policy is like a toddler explaining nuclear physics. Nowhere close to reality. So if you want to spew forth your total ignorance of us, fine. Please continue.
 
Your explaining PNAC's new PH being propitious to policy is like a toddler explaining nuclear physics.

Now, let's be kind. He's smarter than a toddler; it is more like my 7 year old daughter explaining nuclear physics.
 
the overall tenor has been pretty homogeneous, please dont waste time on that

1. To take a case to court implicating a multi billion corp and the gov in the cover up of 911 is not something many people would be willing to do
2. YOu may, but people are different.

again, pelase dont make me have to tell u this again

I know I did, as I said, he told me, and I cant remember. This is just my word, and you may treat it is you wish. Come to the next 911 London event, and you can maybe find out more from people who know him better than i

what an odd thing to say. what an odd person you must be. Where have I condoned covering up 3000 deaths?

I have never intimated as to what i would do; I am simply saying that people are different, not controversial outside fascist circles

as above

Oh please, changed his story,.... show me where please

He has implied that they were involved, at least passively and in the cover up. This is pretty huge. They have taken no steps to deny, or even reprimand him. I dont believe you, or anyone else got round to offering a sensible explanation of this

example?

acceptable behaviour for an OTer to a CTer tho?

what the hell are you talking about? Give me one example?

again, another example

What an odd person you are! What the hell are you talking about? I go onto the streets protesting at the deaths of these people, what the hell do you do, other than be complicit in your stupidity? Show me where I have been contemptuous of their deaths

thats because that is normal reaction to people who provide theories without proof is everything else points to the claims being false, everything points to him being a liar

1. he wouldnt take the case to court, he would inform the police, they would investigate his claims, if there was evidence then it would be taken to court by the prosecution, he would only be a bit part player, if there was no evidence then he loses his job at worst,. it would be pretty unrealistic to think he would be the only one to stand by these claims to the police if they were true, others would follow surely?
2. sorry, but in most cases the majority would do something about their dead colleagues, you obviously have not answered whether you would or not, why is this?

you have zero proof that there has ever been a denial by FT or even an official account of this story, this answers some of your later statments

i ask you a question about these deaths and you handwave it with a "ok"

are you calling me a facist? or intimating it? if so you are very far from the truth

read the links already supplied to his claims, they have changed?

show us where he has ever implied that FT were involved in the cover up, if not this again answers some of your later statements

it has been pointed out by others about your contradictory claims

do i use snideness in my replies to you, or rudeness?

you added in the claims about his real name, deflection tactic

as you would say, see above answers about proof

rudeness and snideness again, and you have done nothing because you are doing exactly nothing with your smoking guns, you handwave my question or staments about these deaths with a wave of the hand and an "OK"

i like the claims in the other posts about the 10's of millions who know about the claims, every truther i know makes grandoise claims about the millions that are on the good guys side, yet how many do they get at ground zero on the anniversary?

if you look at members numbers for all the sites involved in the truth or debunking movements, how many members does each have? millions? think again

how many attend the uk meetings out of interest?
 
1. FT are implicated since they are, by definition, involved in the cover up, since this is a story that has been covered up, and they would be aware of it.

So they KNOW there was a power-down but are participating in its cover up because....... ?

2. The evidence of the cover up is in the fact that it has been covered up-

What a fine example of circular reasoning. What's this "fact" you're talking about ?

hence why Scott is the only one talking about it. Unless of course, he is lying, in which case, as has been shown, he would be fired in a second.

As has been CLAIMED, mjd, not shown.

Any case of 1 man implicating the government and a multi billion dollar corporation in the murder of 3,000 people is not going to be an easy one to win.

And therefore he is unlikely to sue them, so they could fire him anyway.

when did i say they were silenced?

Oh, so they're just going along with it.

Tell me, mjd, according to you, what's the percentage of the Earth's population that's evil like this ?

There are now millions of people all over the world who believe that FT have a role in the 911 cover up.

Evidence, please.

I stated that along with the evident fact of Scott's statement

Which is in and of itself proof of nothing.

which is now known around the world, there has not been one public action/comment on it, affirmative denial or other by FT, which is astonishing.

Unless there's no reason to comment on it, right ?
 
#1- A document illustrates the propitiousness of a new PH to policy, This can be falsified by pointing to the content of the document, the tone and environs of any PH comment, and coming to defendable conclusions. That is something that is falsifiable.

"Interpretations" do not "falsify" anything.

Most people could work it out for themselves, but dont worry, I'll help you. His story is a fairly well known one in the Truth movement; and the movement is known to 10's of millions of people worldwide.

Laughable. You don't know how many people there are in the truth movement, you don't know how many of them know of this "fact". So how can you claim this ?

He is taking a lot of crap. People will be aware of this, and will not want to go through it as well.

Aren't you getting tired of speculating as to what happens in other people's minds ?
 
Oh-just so people are aware, I have eviscerated this chap's LC commentary, PNAC section on p3 of this thread. He has been asked to rebut sensibly since then, but has found it beyond him do so. I would like to know, if he cannot, then what hope do any of you have of doing so?

Mjd is clearly a legend in his own mind.
 
2) If he had lied, he would have been fired, for implicatin FT. And dont go saying that he hasnt implicated them, please...

So he would be fired for which of the following:

1) Implicating FT
2) Implicating FT AND lying
3) Lying

You're claiming that he HAS implicated them, and you're also reporting that he has not been fired. This disproves your claim below:

If an employee of such a company were to come out and imply that the gov were behind 911, they would be out on their ass


Also please address the following question:

How can we tell the difference between
a
) Scotts statements being incorrect, and
b
) a cover up taking place?
How would they look different?
 
So they KNOW there was a power-down but are participating in its cover up because....... ?
I can give you mjd's extremely predictable answer. It will be because FT isn't shouting from the rooftops that there was or wasn't a power down. Mjd seems to think that the "Truth Movement" carries a lot more weight than it really does. He seems to think that Scott's statements on a few websites and a single public interview means that FT must answer Scott's claims. Mjd will also say that FT's alleged intimidation of Scott is further proof. Yet there is no proof of said intimidation other than mjd's word, which we all know isn't exactly reliable. Mjd will also throw in a bunch of big words in an attempt to make himself look intelligent.
 

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