The 9/11 Conspiracy Facts

[mjd1982]

The employment contract of a back-office techie specified that "he is not allowed to make comments or support causes that reflect badly on the company"?????

What is that, the standard anti-conspiracy theorist clause so prevalent in the business world today?

Very convenient for your argument were it true, but alas this is one of the silliest, most inane, most utterly ridiculous claims I have ever read. But there is an upside. The absolutely unbridled stupidity of your above comment convinces me that you are beyond help, and saves me the trouble of responding to your drivel any more. And so, I say to you...

Wrong, sir! Wrong! Under section 37B of the contract signed by him, it states quite clearly that all offers shall become null and void if -- and you can read it for yourself in this photostatic copy -- "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses herein and herein contained," et cetera, et cetera... "Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum," et cetera, et cetera... "Memo bis punitor delicatum"!

It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You stole fizzy lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing!

You lose!

Good day sir!

That is because that statement was referring to my friend at the charity, not Scott Forbes. D'uh!

You do have the selective reading skills of a fantasist, and the discussion will be richer without you. Ta ta

 

[mjd1982]

don't let this be the 3rd time you ignore me for proof that he is being hassled, mjd

What a vacuous thing to say. How the hell am I supposed to provide proof of that. Tell me what precisely you would expect me to proffer.`

 

[mjd1982]

You obviously have internet access - would it be too much trouble for you to look it up yourself? Satire necessarily involves neither humor nor morality. Your "definition" is moronic.

Well, I have studied it at a pretty good uni, but we;ll see how u do...

Wrong, wrong and wrong. First off, I thought it was pretty clear we were talking about spoofing in the context of Ali G. Second, will you stop with the "moral purpose" drivel already? Let me help you. Satire is essentially a means of highlighting and exposing stupid human behavior, through devices such as irony, sarcasm, hyperbole and wit.

so humour for a moral purpose then...

Sure, many stupid behaviors have moral implications. But many, many more do not.

That would be spoof.

And many satires are funny, but many are not.

An example, Einstein?

Hint- learn to distinguish between different types of humour...

NEITHER MORALITY NOR HUMOR IS A NECESSARY COMPONENT OF SATIRE.

d'uh!

I repeat my plea for intelligent posters on this thread please.

 

[Gravy]

I see mjd is still kooking with all burners. Anyone with functioning ocular implementi needs must perforce acknowledgeate that he's converticized a multiplicitation of personages with his impeccable logicalizations and factualities.

 

[mjd1982]

Did he ever come out and say "The wtc was powered down, and my employer is covering it up", or anything even remotely approaching that?

No, he hasn't. He has implicated FT in no way whatsoever, at least not publicly. That's just your own delusional inference.

So his implication is that the building was powered down, but no one at FT knows about it, except him?!

I would say "d'uh", but, well, you get the picture. I think you make my point nicely yourself.

 

[mjd1982]

I think what mjd is saying that by the mere fact the people know that Scott works for FT is implicating FT. This is, of course, extremely faulty logic or Oxford would now be busting down mjd's door for the implication that the school was a part of the conspiracy since mjd supposedly graduated from there.

What the hell are you talking about???

 

[mjd1982]

I see mjd is still kooking with all burners. Anyone with functioning ocular implementi needs must perforce acknowledgeate that he's converticized a multiplicitation of personages with his impeccable logicalizations and factualities.

Ahah, we have the fantasist in chief back again. I take it you have revised your nonsense LC Guide in the ways I suggested?

 

[mjd1982]

PA was the "outside contractor" in Scott's story. So it applies.
That was a substanceless post.
Wrong. FT is not implicit in any way in his claim. Please post where Scott says, "the PA and FT worked together in this power down." He didn't. He says that FT needed IT to shut down it's servers in preparation for the power down. There is no implication there at all.
Oh. So because it's in black and white makes it true? Let's see. He goes from stating: to stating All this is in "black and white." So, what are we supposed to believe? That there was a 36 hour power down that spanned 50 floors or that there was a 26 hour power down that could possibly have spanned 50 floors. The "Truth Movement" turned that into Which is a complete lie.
You have yet to provide any evidence of said cover-up.

1. FT are implicated since they are, by definition, involved in the cover up, since this is a story that has been covered up, and they would be aware of it.

2. The evidence of the cover up is in the fact that it has been covered up- hence why Scott is the only one talking about it. Unless of course, he is lying, in which case, as has been shown, he would be fired in a second.

 

[mjd1982]

no, people on here have said that he may have been mistaken, I have for definite and it was poo poo'd, if he still claims that it was a total power down on all floors from the 50th up, when he knows it cannot have been, then he is a fraud

Excuse me, people have been callng him ~ clown, fraud, liar etc

he has told the truth and is still being nudged to hush up? does not work in above scenario

lol, unless he is sauing stuff they dont want him to say

who has officially denied it and exactly what have they denied?

Hmmm... well it has been excluded from all official accounts, as you are well aware, and it has also been explicitly denied, Scott told me... cant remember where/whom exactly, hold my hands up

i know for definite that the deaths of 3000 people are more important to me than working for a company that i think covered up, especially when you now say some of his work collegues were killed

ok...

this is utterly ludicrous that he would not come out with what he knew just in case he lost his job, if this is the reason he is not coming out then he is the biggest coward i have ever had the misfortune to hear about, if he is a attender at the 911 uk meetings then he will not mind me telling him this at the next one if i attend, i am even more sure i will now by the way

Will look forward to seeing you. You forget the point that this is not de facto proof of anything, just a hint. Nonetheless, the point remains that you and him are different people then

why should FT back up anything if they do not think it was a mysterious power down and just routine

Then why would they be telling him to shut up

i do not know he is implying that FT covered it up cause i have not seen him say that, inferring PA did yes, but FT no

have FT come out and corroborated his story? do you think he is lying when he says that he is being nudged?

if they google his name then they could find this forum and see your posts??

maybe so. Maybe we should stop

that is like asking me to turn a blind eye to evidence that i knew could be a clue in a mass murder as to who committed it, surely it is my duty to tell FT that they are being accused of this so they can then fight these allegations, if he is telling the truth then the british justice system can decide this?

They are well aware of the "allegations", as i have said a million times. I would rather you didnt try and get him in trouble, I should say.

 

[mjd1982]

if someone asks me to do something at work and i am not quite sure about it, i always get them to back it up with email and then keep it

this is my comfort blanket, in case i am queried why i did it?

if he knew the next day that there was a problem and was convinced that the cover up was due to the power down then he would have backed up said email? especially if he thought it was supicious

or are we saying his email server was destroyed in the tower collapse?

that is the only reason i can see that he has not saved it?

Your latter assertion may be right; for your former, I will repeat that you and him are different people. Come to the next London 911 Truth meeting, and you can ask people who know him much better than I.

 

[mjd1982]

are you serious? not racist in any serioust way, sorry pal but all racism is serious in my book

it is totally unacceptable to come out with phrases like that

when is racism ever non serious?

when bernard manning was being racist?

this conveniently allows you to assert that your comment was not racist when in fact it was, get a grip

I presume you equate Bernard Manning with Sacha Baron Cohen? If this is true, I will tell you that you are very much on ur own in ur interpretation of racism.

 

[mjd1982]

I think that the company's problem is not in what Scott is saying, it's how the "Truth Movements" twists what he says into something else.

Lol, and how has this been done?

 

[Unsecured Coins]

What a vacuous thing to say. How the hell am I supposed to provide proof of that. Tell me what precisely you would expect me to proffer.`

well, you know, written threats, video tapes of men in black suits engaging him in a spirited bout of fisticuffs. Anything to back up your claims, sport. You say he's being hassled. We say -

PROVE IT.

 

[mjd1982]

Well what does he think he's being threatened with?

Bearing in mind that you've already pointed out that he can't possibly be sacked for telling the truth?

No- I think he can get sacked, just if he were, he would possibly have a winnable case against his employers. It would be a long, drawn out, and expensive and possibly life ruining one, but he would have a case.

As for what he thinks, possibly getting fired, having his life made hard etc. Note that even if the threat was explicit that he was going to be fired, it doesnt mean that he would want to jump at this opportunity. Any case of 1 man implicating the government and a multi billion dollar corporation in the murder of 3,000 people is not going to be an easy one to win.

 

[mjd1982]

well, you know, written threats, video tapes of men in black suits engaging him in a spirited bout of fisticuffs. Anything to back up your claims, sport. You say he's being hassled. We say -

PROVE IT.

No, you say it. I have asked you what you expect. I will await a serious answer. Well, not really actually...

 

[WildCat]

2. The evidence of the cover up is in the fact that it has been covered up- hence why Scott is the only one talking about it. Unless of course, he is lying, in which case, as has been shown, he would be fired in a second.

So the tens of thousands of people who worked there have all been silenced? That is just ridiculous. Once again, you fail mjd1982.

Would you like to move on to your claim of the FDNY being involved in the coverup?

 

[WildCat]

Any case of 1 man implicating the government and a multi billion dollar corporation in the murder of 3,000 people is not going to be an easy one to win.

Oh for the love of the FSM, what would the motivation be for the company to be involved in this? Or the government for involving them in this? This is just stupid.

 

[DGM]

So his implication is that the building was powered down, but no one at FT knows about it, except him?!

Yuo've got this almost right. It should be:

So his implication is that the building was powered down, but no one on earth knows about it, except him!

 

[Unsecured Coins]

You make a claim that he's beeing hassled, I ask for proof, you then ask me what I want for proof, I make a few suggestions, and then you...

run. Got it.

Show me ANYTHING. A paper this guy has written detailing his harrassment. Pictures of the cow's tongue nailed to his door. A close up of his squealer's scar.

You made the claim, you back it up by ANY WAY YOU CAN.

 

[twinstead]

You made the claim, you back it up by ANY WAY YOU CAN.

Dude. This whole 'put up or shut up' thing is SOOO pre-911.