The 9/11 Conspiracy Facts

Augustine said:
Oh, please. NOTHING in the Afghan Islamic Press, NOTHING from Abdul Hakim Mujahid, Taliban envoy to the United Nations; NOTHING from Qudratullah Jamal, the Taliban's information minister; NOTHING from Mullah Abdur Rahman Zahid, the Taliban's deputy foreign minister. NOTHING....


RESEARCH

From 2001:
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If you had posted my quote in full context, this deliberate misrepresentation wouldnt have happened. Why do u feel the need to do this, old man?
 
This must be true, too!! It's a question in a press briefing!

Q Ari, the Reverend Jesse Jackson told the AFL-CIO Convention in Las Vegas that the Bush administration "is using the FBI, the IRS and the right-wing media like The Washington Times and Fox News as weapons against union leaders to destroy the leadership of organized labor before the 2010 elections."

And my question: Am I wrong in recalling, Ari, that when the Reverend Mr. Jackson impregnated his mistress and used tax-exempt contributions to get her out of Chicago, you told us that the President telephoned Jesse to say, you are in my prayers, rather than you are being investigated, like the head of United Way? (Laughter.) He went to prison --

MR. FLEISCHER: What was the question?

Q Could you tell us this -- and you know, the head of United Way was sent to prison, Ari.

MR. FLEISCHER: I'm still not sure what the question is, Les.

Q You did tell us that the President phoned Jesse and said you're in my prayers, right?

MR. FLEISCHER: Leave it there. Yes. Next question. (Laughter.)
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011211-5.html

I'll bet CNN aired the press conference! They endorse it too!
 
Show me how their news gathering capabilities in this instance, good enough to have been regurgitated by MSNBC, and a WH press conference.
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Does anyone else find it strange that at a WH news conference (full of reporters) A bombshell like this is released and no one else reacts. Reporters the biggest busy body's on earth and they let it slide.
 
Augustine said:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/afghanistan/eastham.html

Sigh, I get tired of doing Junior's research for him....
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Hahaha, ok, let's read this:

RAY SUAREZ: Your phrase 'to a country where he can be brought to justice' would seem to be a point of contention between the United States’ view and the Taliban’s view. The Taliban says that the United States has had very high and intractable demands, sort of New York or nothing, under these terms that make it very difficult for them for internal reasons to surrender Osama Bin Laden. The other day it was mentioned that if he could be sent to a mutually agreed upon Islamic country to be tried, they could probably go for that.Does that represent a vastly different version of the story from the one they’re giving through official channels?

ALAN EASTHAM: I haven’t heard that proposal. They’ve put forward several ideas, but the notion of a mutually agreeable Islamic country is one that they’ve not made directly to us.
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So good. We have another source of corroboration. Eastham claims he has "never heard that proposal"- well, surprising, seeing as it was brought up at a WH press conference a few weeks back.
 
mjd1982 said:
Where does thousands come from?
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Did any of these warnings suggest how many people were involved? If so, how do you pick out 19 hijackers from a population of 281,421,906? That's 1 hijacker for every 14 MILLION people.

mjd1982 said:
Plus, monitor them, track suspicious activity, phonecalls, meetings etc. Not hard!
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Your plan sounds an awful lot like the Patriot Act

1 - How do you determine who to monitor?...The US population in 2001 was over 280 MILLION people. (It's now over 300 Million)

2 - How do you monitor these people's activities, phone calls, and meetings without violating the constitutional rights of US citizens?

 
DGM said:
Does anyone else find it strange that at a WH news conference (full of reporters) A bombshell like this is released and no one else reacts. Reporters the biggest busy body's on earth and they let it slide.
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Yes, how strange.

Now the point?
 
Oh, and a little treat for you all:

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn11012004.html

Just to give some snippets:

George Bush, the man whose prime campaign plank has been his ability to wage war on terror, could have had Osama bin Laden's head handed to him on a platter on his very first day in office,
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In a lengthy interview and in a memorandum Kabir Mohabbat has given us a detailed account and documentation to buttress his charge that the Bush administration could have had Osama bin Laden and his senior staff either delivered to the US or to allies as prisoners, or killed at their Afghan base. As a search of the data base shows, portions of Mohabbat's role have been the subject of a number of news reports, including a CBS news story by Alan Pizzey aired September 25, 2001. This is the first he has made public the full story.
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The Bush administration sent Mohabbat back, carrying kindred tidings of delay and regret to the Taliban three more times in 2001, the last in September after the 9/11 attack. Each time he was asked to communicate similar regrets about the failure to act on the plan agreed to in Frankfurt (i.e. to have OBL handed over or killed- MJD). This procrastination became a standing joke with the Taliban, Mohabbat tells CounterPunch "They made an offer to me that if the US didn't have fuel for the Cruise missiles to attack Osama in Daronta, where he was under house arrest, they would pay for it."
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In December Mohabbat was in Pakistan following with wry amusement the assault on Osama bin Laden's supposed mountain redoubt in Tora Bora, in the mountains bordering Pakistan. At the time he said, he informed US embassy officials the attack was a waste of time. Taliban leaders had told him that Bin Laden was nowhere near Tora Bora but in Waziristan. Knowing that the US was monitoring his cell phone traffic, Osama had sent a decoy to Tora Bora.
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From the documents he's supplied us and from his detailed account we regard Kabir Mohabbat's story as credible and are glad to make public his story of the truly incredible failure of the Bush administration to accept the Taliban's offer to eliminate Bin Laden. As a consequence of this failure more than 3,000 Americans and thousands of Afghans died.
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He told his story to the 9/11 Commission (whose main concern, he tells us, was that he not divulge his testimony to anyone else), also to the 9/11 Families who were pursuing a lawsuit based on the assumption of US intelligence blunders by the FBI and CIA. He says his statements were not much use to the families since his judgment was, and still remains, that it was not intelligence failures that allowed the 9/11 attacks, but criminal negligence by the Bush administration.
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mjd1982 said:
i dont see what this has to do with anything.

Still waiting for an answer...
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The point being made is...just because a reporter quotes another person or another article doesn't mean that they concur, agree, lend creedance-to, or credibility-to the quoted statement.
 
mjd1982 said:
So good. We have another source of corroboration. Eastham claims he has "never heard that proposal"- well, surprising, seeing as it was brought up at a WH press conference a few weeks back.
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What are you smoking, Kool Aid man? You must have learned cherrypicking from Chomsky.

ALAN EASTHAM: I haven’t heard that proposal. They’ve put forward several ideas, but the notion of a mutually agreeable Islamic country is one that they’ve not made directly to us.
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The clear inference is that the Taliban MAY HAVE discussed this proposal with others, but NOTHING with the US directly. How this corroborates your claim of a specific offer to turn him over to Saudi Arabia is beyond me. Guess you see what you want to - kind of like the PNAC document, eh Junior?
 
Augustine said:
Document 24 - State 028054

More for Junior....
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mjd1982 said:
Hahaha, ok, let's read this:
RAY SUAREZ: Your phrase 'to a country where he can be brought to justice' would seem to be a point of contention between the United States’ view and the Taliban’s view. The Taliban says that the United States has had very high and intractable demands, sort of New York or nothing, under these terms that make it very difficult for them for internal reasons to surrender Osama Bin Laden. The other day it was mentioned that if he could be sent to a mutually agreed upon Islamic country to be tried, they could probably go for that.Does that represent a vastly different version of the story from the one they’re giving through official channels?

ALAN EASTHAM: I haven’t heard that proposal. They’ve put forward several ideas, but the notion of a mutually agreeable Islamic country is one that they’ve not made directly to us.
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So good. We have another source of corroboration. Eastham claims he has "never heard that proposal"- well, surprising, seeing as it was brought up at a WH press conference a few weeks back.
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Just in case you skipped over the .pdf Augustine posted:
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The India Globe report was erroneous, mjd1982; try and keep up.

ETA: Can we get to 7WTC?
 
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nicepants said:
The point being made is...just because a reporter quotes another person or another article doesn't mean that they concur, agree, lend creedance-to, or credibility-to the quoted statement.
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Thank you. Sometimes I feel bad having to explain the obvious for our Oxford-educated friend.
 
WildCat said:
You're wrong. "Pravda" means "truth" in Russian. And we all know that anything with "truth" in the title has to be true!

It's true! :)
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re-read my post, please. It clearly states F*** You. What part of that can you not understand? F*** you. F*** you 1,000 times!! F*** you until your [rule 8]hole is a perfect donkey [rule 8]hole!!
 
Unsecured Coins said:
re-read my post, please. It clearly states F*** You. What part of that can you not understand? F*** you. F*** you 1,000 times!! F*** you until your [rule 8]hole is a perfect donkey [rule 8]hole!!
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Well don't come crying to me when you go swimming in the Ukraine and a monster comes up and starts chewing on your [rule 8].
 
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