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Bandar "Bush" was W's buddy. That is no secret.

Saudi Arabia was used to launder money. The people behind 9/11 gave the money to Saudi Arabia so it would look like it was coming from them. This way the money would be untraceable to its origins.

This is obvious. Deny it all you want, and I know you will.

People gave money to the Saudis? That's a first.

Couple of things. The Saudis are everybody's "friend" in Washington D.C. and it is not a secret.

The Saudis have been a big help to the US and the West because they know everybody, and many important diplomatic deals have been made possible through back-door negotiations with their help with countries we can't talk to publicly...it's how you head off war.

The Saudis won't just take money without doing their homework and knowing everything about the donor first.

More importantly, if wealthy Saudis are already funding terror (knowingly or unknowingly) then why the secrecy? Why launder money through the Saudis when you're a super secret bad-guy organization and can just launder it yourself?
 
Bandar "Bush" was W's buddy. That is no secret.
Ok
Saudi Arabia was used to launder money.
Who's money? You say at the end of the post that its obvious so you must have a name, right?

The people behind 9/11 gave the money to Saudi Arabia so it would look like it was coming from them. This way the money would be untraceable to its origins.
Untraceable but obviously done this way. Now you are getting quite confusing. You don't seem to know (or have yet to state) who gave the money nor who it was given to and that its origin and distribution is untraceable.

This is obvious. Deny it all you want, and I know you will.
Well you are wrong. I havent denied it. Your postulation is intrigueing but as yet quite unsatisfying. Surely you must have something, anything at all besides your imagination, that can bolster this for me.
 
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BTW, why even give money to any Saudi elite at all. Pretty sure many of them could have funded 19 guys in the USA without American help to do so.
What's the most it would have cost, $200000 to 300000?
 
Ok
Who's money? You say at the end of the post that its obvious so you must have a name, right?
Untraceable but obviously done this way.
Right.

Americans don't get to sue the Saudis. You have been reading the news lately, right?

Any money given to them is untraceable. Do you honestly think they are going to follow a court order? LOL. No.

What motive do the Saudis have for attacking the US? None. They are just the middleman.

Argue all you want. This is not news. I'm only surprised that any of it is being made public at all.

The money trail leads to the Saudis and it ends there. It will always end there, and nothing anyone can ever do will change that. The 9/11 planners couldn't defy the laws of physics, but they sure as hell can hide money.
 
The 9/11 planners couldn't defy the laws of physics, but they sure as hell can hide money.

Odd you keep saying this but never actually show how it's true. We know you post showing your belief but never any actual evidence. Why is this?

ETA: You can't actually defy the laws of physics. Nothing on 9/11 did (I await your expert opinion that something did)
 
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Ok
Who's money? You say at the end of the post that its obvious so you must have a name, right?


Untraceable but obviously done this way. Now you are getting quite confusing. You don't seem to know (or have yet to state) who gave the money nor who it was given to and that its origin and distribution is untraceable.


Well you are wrong. I havent denied it. Your postulation is intrigueing but as yet quite unsatisfying. Surely you must have something, anything at all besides your imagination, that can bolster this for me.

Right.

Americans don't get to sue the Saudis. You have been reading the news lately, right?

Any money given to them is untraceable. Do you honestly think they are going to follow a court order? LOL. No.

What motive do the Saudis have for attacking the US? None. They are just the middleman.

Argue all you want. This is not news. I'm only surprised that any of it is being made public at all.

The money trail leads to the Saudis and it ends there. It will always end there, and nothing anyone can ever do will change that. The 9/11 planners couldn't defy the laws of physics, but they sure as hell can hide money.

I haven't argued. I asked questions of your theory.
None of which, btw, you bothered to answer in the least.
 
Support a real investigation and we might find out.

www.ae911truth.org
You claim to already know, why can't you name names?

Gage will never get a new investigation, he doesn't want to hurt his pay check. What has he actually done to get a new investigation started? I hope you don't think his "petition" is real, he has no plan to ever present it to anyone but the faithful.

Frankly, you need to be the most gullible person on Earth to think someone running a petition for 10 years actually wanted results. Keep giving your money, he wouldn't lie to you...............
 
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Well when a regime's legitimacy is predicated on not just providing for the defense of the two holiest cities of Islam, but upholding the ultra-puritanical strain of Islam known as Wahhabism (remember, the alliance between the House of Saud and the Wahhabi clerics dates back to the 1700s, IIRC), and when said regime has systematically eliminated (or attempted to eliminate, anyway) any and all threats to their rule - as well as dissenting views from the ruling Wahhabi orthodoxy; and when that regime reveals itself to be not just in strategic alliance with the Western infidels, but incredibly corrupt and hypocritical in the behavior of its own rulers (e.g., the lavish, Westernized lifestyles of many Saudi royals and other elite businessmen), is it any surprise that many Saudi citizens will grow frustrated and angry with both the hypocritical, corrupt, and absolutist dictators that rule their country, as well as the "Great Satan" of the United States and other Western countries that ally with the House of Saud?

Under the particular conditions of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia - a population deeply indoctrinated in Wahhabi ideology, no civil society to speak of (other than rabidly Wahhabist mosques), and prospects for economic advancement being few and far between - the potential for an uprising is dangerously high. But such an uprising, far from being a remotely secular, liberal, or democratic revolution, would be an even more aggressively - and violently - Wahhabist, and openly anti-Western, in alignment with the likes of al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, and ISIS.

Given these conditions, the inclination of the House of Saud has not been to liberalize or introduce substantive reforms, but to export the Kingdom's ruling Wahhabism all over the world. This serves two functions: first, it keeps the home-grown Saudi jihadists away from the Kingdom, where they are no longer an immediate threat to the ruling family. Second, it shores up the legitimacy of the House of Saud in the eyes of both the Wahhabist clerics - who are incredibly influential within Saudi society - as well as many devout Sunni Muslims around the world, who have increasingly looked to Wahhabism as the standard by which all Muslims ought to be measured.

Thus, it does not surprise me in the slightest that members of the House of Saud, other Saudi government officials (perhaps especially in the military as well as the intelligence and foreign affairs services), Saudi "charities" that were easily infiltrated by operatives from Al-Qaeda and other jihadist organizations), and fabulously wealthy Saudi businessmen have donated generous sums of money over the years to all kinds of Wahhabist (or Wahhabi-influenced) individuals and organizations. And it does not surprise me at all that some of that money ended up in the hands of the 9/11 hijackers.

The real scandal here is the fact that the U.S. government has been allied for so long with this brutally dictatorial regime that has cynically exported the ideology and the organizations that have directly given rise to the most dangerous terrorist organizations in the world.

Says a lot.
 
Done (a long time ago).

It's your turn now. Sign the petition.

Just because you're easily duped into funding Gage's vacations, doesn't mean the rest of us are.

I wouldn't sign that joke of a petition even if you paid me.

Now I'm asking again for the third time, please stop dodging my questions.

Have you taken up a second job to help fund this new investigation. Yes or No?

If no, why not?

These aren't difficult questions, not sure why they're giving you so much trouble.
 
Any money given to them is untraceable. Do you honestly think they are going to follow a court order? LOL. No.

The United States is home to the NSA. Guess who can trace electronic transactions, and guess who also doesn't follow court orders.

What motive do the Saudis have for attacking the US? None. They are just the middleman.

They didn't, rich Saudis donated to what they thought was a worthwhile charity to spread Islam. AQ raised a lot of money inside of the US too.

Argue all you want. This is not news. I'm only surprised that any of it is being made public at all.

That says so much about you.

The money trail leads to the Saudis and it ends there. It will always end there, and nothing anyone can ever do will change that.

Nope. It went through Dubai, Pakistan, Spain, Germany. I'm thinking you've done zero research at all.

The 9/11 planners couldn't defy the laws of physics, but they sure as hell can hide money.

No, you can't hide money, not for long, and certainly not in large amounts. Ask the Third Reich, ask the CIA, ask Al Qaeda.

As for defying the laws of physics goes, why has no Troofer ever asked why, of all the buildings in the US, was the WTC targeted by Al Qaeda starting back in 1993? What did AQ's engineers see in the Twin Towers other than a symbolic target? Has it occurred to anyone else that the Towers might have been more than just an easy target? Maybe there was something in the design that screamed "I can be knocked down!". We know AQ toured the building and did their homework. Why can't Truthers?
 
Who's money? You say at the end of the post that its obvious so you must have a name, right?


Untraceable but obviously done this way. Now you are getting quite confusing. You don't seem to know (or have yet to state) who gave the money nor who it was given to and that its origin and distribution is untraceable.


Well you are wrong. I havent denied it. Your postulation is intrigueing but as yet quite unsatisfying. Surely you must have something, anything at all besides your imagination, that can bolster this for me.

Right.

Americans don't get to sue the Saudis. You have been reading the news lately, right?

Any money given to them is untraceable. Do you honestly think they are going to follow a court order? LOL. No.

What motive do the Saudis have for attacking the US? None. They are just the middleman.

Argue all you want. This is not news. I'm only surprised that any of it is being made public at all.

The money trail leads to the Saudis and it ends there. It will always end there, and nothing anyone can ever do will change that. The 9/11 planners couldn't defy the laws of physics, but they sure as hell can hide money.

I haven't argued. I asked questions of your theory.
None of which, btw, you bothered to answer in the least.

,,,,,,, and still no answer to my questions.
Come on FF, if you KNOW that this was done then you have some idea of WHO transferred the money and to WHO it went. You say the money trail goes to "the Saudis". All I am asking is WHO, specifically, and how is it determined that this money came from the USA, from WHO in the USA and how it is determined that this money trail puts this money in the hands of the 9/11 terrorists?

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