The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

tempesta29 said:
This is one of the "ground zero meteorites". It's comprised of formerly molten steel and concrete.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc_meteorite.wmv

There's a 9/11 display here in NYC that houses some of these "meteorites".
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/gun_notice.jpg
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Really?

It is comprised of fomerly molten steel and concrete?

HOw is it that it is filled with UNBURNED PAPER. do you mean to tell me that paper wouldn't burn at the temperature necessary for steel to be molten?

(pssss.... the "meteorite" is COMPRESSED concrete. It is what is left over when 4 floors compressed.

I'm sure you have already been pwned on this....
 
Fonebone said:

NO I didn't hear the huge explosion in the video but the reporter DID.
Meaning the explosion noises in the video were excised or muted.
These firemen heard the explosions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO1ps1mzU8o&feature=player_embedded


Are you calling these firemen liars AW ?
Be honest with us AW - Are you saying the reporter shouted
"HUGE EXPLOSION" just to fool those stupid twoofers he knew
would question the official story in the future ?

Some have something to say,
and some have to say something .
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So you mean to tell me that in office fires explosions aren't common?

Do you mean that if something explodes in an office fire, it was a bomb or an EXPLOSIVE?

What about this fire?
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/741
During the early morning hours, explosions could be heard as flammable material ignited as well as the explosion of windows that were reached by the fire. The fire roared out of control for 17 hours, by which time all floors from the 34th to the top had been burned.
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This is from a truther favorite... the caracas tower fire. The one that Ergo was completely schooled on. YOu know... reinforced concrete which stood, but the FIREPROOFED steel floors inside collapsed.

Did you catch this part?
During the early morning hours, explosions could be heard as flammable material ignited as well as the explosion of windows that were reached by the fire. The fire roared out of control for 17 hours, by which time all floors from the 34th to the top had been burned.
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So are those "explosions" from nanothermite, thermite, thermate, explosives or just from good old office materials? Hmmmm?
 
tempesta29 said:
It's a straw man; that's it's problem. The argument that explosions can occur in office fires isn't being disputed, at least not by me. However the explosions experienced on 9/11 are not consistent with the ones you're describing.

People were knocked off their feet by explosions felt at the Twin Towers. The types of explosions felt by eyewitnesses were literally ground shaking. People felt them throughout the structure and overwhelmingly emanating from deep in the sub-levels. Why would anything be exploding in the basement levels after a plane crash far closer to the roof?

So let's get an understanding on what is being disputed here, or you can continue with your insightful large red font tirade.
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There are several things which would and could cause "ground shaking" which could be described as an explosion.

For example. If one of the engines fell down an elevator shaft, it could strike the bottom of the shaft (it happened in the ESB when the b25 crashed into it).

it could be elevators which fell (which there are reports of). Possibly elevators breaking through the dividers and continuing to the basement.

Or it could have been an EXPLOSION. There were several kitchens throughout the wtc complex... in fact one that ran to Windows on the world was supposed to be in a subbasement. They were preparing a BRUNCH. So what could possibly explode in an industrial kitchen? Especially when you have flaming jet fuel added to the kitchen?

Oh no... it must have been "explosives"
 
tempesta29 said:
And this exploding elevator in the basement, it knocked people off their feet in the lobby, blew all the lobby windows out, knocked marble tiling off the walls?

Is this your claim? I was just to get straight what your claim is. And if so, how many flaming elevators are you claiming exploded?
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Hey Tempest.

do yourself a favor. Go and read the accounts (and eyewitnesses) to the elevator falling in the ESB when the b 25 crashed into it.

I'll let you find the research... it isn't hard. They described an aircraft engine and the damage it did.

then see if you see parallels
 
And right back atcha, Fonebone. All this truther phoney baloney about WTC controlled demolition, no planes (the list of allegations is literally endless) and such relies on belief without evidence.
Where are your wire transfers, where are your eyewitness accounts of teams of workers attaching explosives to columns; of teams of people driving up to the pentagon or a field in PA and planting aircraft parts; and the endless paper trails which would inevitably result from such a colossal effort - in terms of manpower and resources alone?

All completely, glaringly M.I.A. As Silverstein's 'pull it' comment remains a centerpiece of Truther evidence for WTC 7, then God help you if you ever attempt to go to trial; you haven't got 1/10 of 1 percent of the evidence to support your allegations than the evidence against the terrorists who actually did the crime.
 
tempesta29 said:
The argument that explosions can occur in office fires isn't being disputed, at least not by me. However the explosions experienced on 9/11 are not consistent with the ones you're describing.

People were knocked off their feet by explosions felt at the Twin Towers. The types of explosions felt by eyewitnesses were literally ground shaking. People felt them throughout the structure and overwhelmingly emanating from deep in the sub-levels. .
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I know this is an old post, but just have to add...

So if these explosions were so intense, you claim were caused by explosives, why didn't ANYONE ANYWHERE ON 911 SUFFER ANY BLAST INJURIES?


No truthers want to deal with that.
 
Edx said:
So if these explosions were so intense, you claim were caused by explosives, why didn't ANYONE ANYWHERE ON 911 SUFFER ANY BLAST INJURIES?
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Because it was a super secret explosive that damages only inorganic items while leaving organic critters just peachy. :rolleyes:
 
Yep. At first I thought he was someone to talk with. But he turned out to be nothing more than Truth Fantasist # 386. More a pitiful than insulting determination, but that's hardly my fault.
 
All aboard

alienentity said:
From the Moussaoui trial
Manual found in the UK
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/AQ01677.html
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Terrorist manual evidence eh ?
Compare the "terrorist manual "parts A,B & C
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/AQ01677.html
used to prosecute the terrorist mastermind with American terrorist
publications available in the public domain for about $7.00 US.
http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com...arfare-and-special-forces-operations-4947.cfm

The "moneygram " evidence used in the trial was extracted from the FBI
timelines presented to the jury ..
The FBI draft of the "terrorist timelines" reveals some interesting facts.
http://www.historycommons.org/sourcedocuments/2001/pdfs/fbi911timeline106-210.pdf

Note that these FBI drafts were marked as SECRET and were released after
the timelines were sanitized with numerous redactions of actions & transactions critical to proving guilt or innocence in America "justice"
system.
Finally you assert that the "congressional joint investigation "discovered a
terrorist paper trail that escaped the attention of the FBI but you supply no links or documents.

Moneygram
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/BR00003.pdf

Passport used to receive Moneygram
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/BR00006.pdf

emails
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/FO05521-10.html

etc...

'The Congressional Joint Inquiry had discovered a paper trail that traced these funds back to sources within Saudi government agencies and the Saudi royal family itself (which has now-famous ties to both Presidents Bush). But the 9/11 Commission found the same evidence inconclusive, and relegated the episode to one of their report’s 1,742 footnotes.'

I suppose if one choses to take the one FBI statement as a blanket that there was no evidence, electronic or paper form, then one would be making a great mistake.
Did the hijackers ever incriminate themselves by writing down on paper 'we're going to attack the twin towers etc? Probably not.

That doesn't mean there isn't an extensive amount of evidence which links them to the crime though. But personal notes confessing their plot? Hardly.

A good investigator doesn't need anything that crude to develop a solid case.
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Would you care to explain why none of the 911 terrorists are on the FBI wanted list for the murderous crimes committed on 911 based on this
"extensive amount of evidence" you cite ?

The terms "railroaded" and "show-trial" are well known is the American justice lexicon for a reason.

http://truthinjustice.org/pilate.htm
The mug shots that helped put Reasonover on the slippery downward slope? Reasonover had only done as she was told -- point out facial characteristics that resembled those of the people she'd seen -- and yet she was held accountable when those faces belonged to people with alibis. Two other witnesses had pointed to the same or similar faces, but Pilate couldn't help noticing that they were not in the same predicament. What about the strong hints that the victim, Buckley, had been in disputes with some tough players? And what about the similar robberies in the area? There was no sign that the police seriously considered alternative theories or suspects. Police and prosecutors' minds had closed quickly, Pilate thought: Another open case "solved." Then there was the most troubling of all the signs that Reasonover might have been railroaded: the extensive reliance on jailhouse informants, who materialized as soon as Reasonover was jailed on suspicion of murdering Buckley. Two cellmates, each of whom bargained for leniency (and later misrepresented the deals they cut), claimed that Reasonover had confessed to them in separate conversations, one month apart. Now prosecutors had supposedly direct evidence -- the only direct evidence -- of her guilt.
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Didn't read most of your post, but this caught my eye.

Fonebone said:
Would you care to explain why none of the 911 terrorists are on the FBI wanted list for the murderous crimes committed on 911 based on this
"extensive amount of evidence" you cite ?
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Here it comes.

Ready?

THEY'RE DEAD.
 
LOL

Why would anybody put extensive amount of evidence in scare quotes anyway? The evidence to support the commonly-held narrative isn't secret. It's out there for all the world to see and scrutinize. It's a matter of public record. The ONLY recourse--albeit a lame one--truthers have is to claim it's faked; to claim it doesn't exist is idiotic.
 
aggle-rithm said:
Didn't read most of your post, but this caught my eye.{/quote]

I'm not suprised.
The post has already been reported as unreadable and disruptive due to bolded and italicized fonts !


Here it comes.

Ready?

THEY'RE DEAD.
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I'm ready --

'The Congressional Joint Inquiry had discovered a paper trail
that traced these funds back to
sources within Saudi government agencies and the Saudi royal family itself

The entire Saudi royal family and the terrorist
"sources" within the Saudi government that funded the "hijackers "
are all dead ?
Interesting --You have a link to confirm this ?
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Fonebone said:
'The Congressional Joint Inquiry had discovered a paper trail
that traced these funds back to
sources within Saudi government agencies and the Saudi royal family itself

The entire Saudi royal family and the terrorist "sources" within the Saudi government that funded the "hijackers "are all dead ?
Interesting --You have a link to confirm this ?
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Got a source to confirm the highlighted nonsense you just posted?
 
chipmunk stew said:
:dl:

By the way, the rest of his post was a lot of hand-waving implying that the paper trail was manufactured.
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The FBI states there was no paper trail.
Your hand waving and blasts of hot air are creating a
JREF "chinook" to counter the FBI statement concerning the
absence of a terrorist paper trail. WHY ?
A paper trail that mysteriously appears at a later date could have been
easily "manufactured" to assist a show trail railroading of a patsy or dupe.
Read up on the "magic bullet" theory used in the Kennedy assassination that was concocted (manufactured ) to fit the "evidence". Bic ?
 
Sabretooth said:
Got a source to confirm the highlighted nonsense you just posted?
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YES - Buried amongst a load of other nonsense here--
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6755566#post6755566
'The Congressional Joint Inquiry had discovered a paper trail that traced these funds back to sources within Saudi government agencies and the Saudi royal family itself (which has now-famous ties to both Presidents Bush). But the 9/11 Commission found the same evidence inconclusive, and relegated the episode to one of their report’s 1,742 footnotes.'
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BTW I also requested the writer AlienEntity to source his nonsense in this post-
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6791571#post6791571
Finally you assert that the "congressional joint investigation "discovered a
terrorist paper trail that escaped the attention of the FBI but you supply no links or documents.
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Fonebone said:
The FBI states there was no paper trail.
Your hand waving and blasts of hot air are creating a
JREF "chinook" to counter the FBI statement concerning the
absence of a terrorist paper trail. WHY ?
A paper trail that mysteriously appears at a later date could have been
easily "manufactured" to assist a show trail railroading of a patsy or dupe.
Read up on the "magic bullet" theory used in the Kennedy assassination that was concocted (manufactured ) to fit the "evidence". Bic ?
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And the truthers don't manufacture "evidence"? Like Chandlers debris missles and Joens and co's manufacturing their evidence to fit thermite when they have nothing of the sort? There is a wealth of manufactured evidence on the truthers side and lots of it works to them only if you ignore another stack of evidence or take that wild ride to delusions.
 
Yea, fonebone, coulda shoulda woulda. the stuff of great investigations.

I have 4 words for you: Total Body of Evidence.
 
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