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Texas Tea

mhaze said:
Thanks. Is your socialist senator having fun watching all those UHauls driving out of his state?
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Hard to say; I think he's too busy reading his press clippings and telling everyone how great he is. And in any case, there's not a lot of UHauls around here these days, since most of the people have already left. (Although to be fair, Vermont's current unemployment rate is considerably lower than Texas's).
 
Biscuit said:
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ETA: I don't think the extreme teabagger politics of Texas is what is drawing new immigrants to settle there.
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True. It's the jobs and growing economy likely due to Texas tea party ideals in action. The oil business does make money and provide good paying jobs. That in turn leads to added economic growth.
 
theprestige said:
Seems kind of strange to complain about appeals to worse problems, when the question at hand is what problem do people actually think is worse...

... Me? I prefer an hour with a full bladder to a minute with a kidney stone. Oh, wait--appeal to worse problems, a fallacy! Guess I should prefer the kidney stone instead.
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No, appeal to worse problems would be saying that you shouldn't talk about or criticize having a full bladder because you don't have a kidney stone.

And as what you identify as the question at hand actually isn't then I'd say that the red herring has been pretty successful.
 
This thread has taken an odd turn (which I hope will be split to its own thread) but my point in the OP was not that Texas is a horrible place. I've lived here more than half my life, and for the most part it has been pretty good. It has provided me constant employment and affordable living circumstances. But that doesn't mean I like the politics. Have those politics made the state successful? Well, it's hard to say. The low taxes have certainly attracted businesses, as have the lax enforcement of pollution laws and the "nod nod wink wink" attitude toward business that hire illegal immigrants. But I have a good job with an international company. For the poor, it is not as pretty a sight. Worst education, worst health care, and some of the worst poverty in the nation. If this is what it takes to be a "success" then, in my opinion, it's not worth it.

Whether or not they can continue walking this thin line between success and disaster is yet to be seen, but I don't want to be represented by the Tea Party. I think they are one of the worst things ever to happen to this country.
 
Tricky said:
This thread has taken an odd turn (which I hope will be split to its own thread) but my point in the OP was not that Texas is a horrible place. I've lived here more than half my life, and for the most part it has been pretty good. It has provided me constant employment and affordable living circumstances. But that doesn't mean I like the politics. Have those politics made the state successful? ......
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Good point.

Now.

Has politics made Chicago successful?

BWHAHAHAAHAHA!
 
mhaze said:
Good point.

Now.

Has politics made Chicago successful?

BWHAHAHAAHAHA!
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I don't know, it looks pretty successful from most peoples' point of view. You are making fun of Chicago, I can tell, but now tell me, what do you know about Chicago? Have you lived there for 10 years? Can you explain why you think Chicago is unsuccessful?

This is especially hard for you, I'm sure, because Chicago is quite successful. You may not like the mayor, but that's just part of the Republican "anything but Obama" campaign.
 
It's just all those darned folks in their UHails moving down here dragging our scores down.
 
I saw a little blub on the local news crawl that while Dewhurst had most of his funding from within the state, most of Cruz's came from external sources.

Thank you Citizens United.
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
I saw a little blub on the local news crawl that while Dewhurst had most of his funding from within the state, most of Cruz's came from external sources.

Thank you Citizens United.
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Citizens United had zero effect on campaign contributions, because the case had nothing to do with campaign contributions. It has no bearing on the subject you refer to,
 
Ziggurat said:
Citizens United had zero effect on campaign contributions, because the case had nothing to do with campaign contributions. It has no bearing on the subject you refer to,
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Yep, my mistake. I used funding which would refer to the campains. I meant to say "money" meaning all the ads by PACs and SuperPACs.

So I was correct when I referred to Citizens United and merely used poor phrasing in the first sentence.

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/from-upstart-to-upset-cruz-wins-with-voter-2426379.html
 
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UnrepentantSinner said:
I saw a little blub on the local news crawl that while Dewhurst had most of his funding from within the state, most of Cruz's came from external sources.

Thank you Citizens United.
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Ever take a look at Democratic congressmens' contributions? In Tx, a non union state for the most part, the Demo congressmen routinely get numerous donations from national unions, who don't have anything to do with their district.
 
Ziggurat said:
Citizens United had zero effect on campaign contributions, because the case had nothing to do with campaign contributions. It has no bearing on the subject you refer to,
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A bit pedantic isn't it? Don't super PACs spend money to further campaigns (they just cannot coordinate the spending of money with the candidate), right?
 
mhaze said:
Ever take a look at Democratic congressmens' contributions? In Tx, a non union state for the most part, the Demo congressmen routinely get numerous donations from national unions, who don't have anything to do with their district.
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I'm not interested in your Dem/Rep tu quoque non sequitor. I was specifically referring to Dewhurst v. Cruz.

Thanks for nothing. :)
 
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