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Texas bans abortion.

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It isn't a child and as I've said it isn't murder. Use all the emotive language you want, it won't change reality.
 
I encourage people to ignore the trollish 'when is abortion murder' discussion and return to the program in progress. Thank you.


It's going to be hard if others want to engage:
It isn't murder. Murder is the unlawful slaying of a human. That isn't a human and it isn't an unlawful act to terminate it.
The reality is that it is human from conception. No other living thing has the same DNA. The issue is whether it is sufficiently developed to have a right to live independently of the wishes of the carrier and that is largely a legal/technical issue.

As for the Texas law, it is symptomatic of the malaise that is inflicted on the US where the courts conspire to nullify the bill of rights using legal technicalities.
 
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It isn't a child and as I've said it isn't murder. Use all the emotive language you want, it won't change reality.

Murder is not exactly "emotive" language, imo, when accurate. I mean, how else can one characterize it? Exterminating life? What do you expect? Look at the photo that Stacy provided.
 
It isn't murder. It barely counts as killing when it's non viable. Murder is exactly emotive language meant to curry sympathy.

It also isn't a human. It is human but it isn't A human.
 
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It isn't murder. It barely counts as killing when it's non viable.

I remember one time when I was preparing a cake. All of the ingredients were perfect, almost as though crafted by divine intervention. I decided I didn't want a cake, 5 minutes after it went in the oven.

People asked why I threw it away. I told them, "it wasn't viable". Only the Dems in the group understood.
 
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If Republicans or Evangelicals gave a **** about avoiding abortions, they would make sure there is great sexual education in school and easy access to birth control and female health care.
But since the point is to point at someone you don't like and shout "baby murderer!" , they won't do what would actually prevent abortions.
 
I remember one time when I was preparing a cake. All of the ingredients were perfect, almost as though crafted by divine intervention. I decided I didn't want a cake, 5 minutes after it went in the oven.

People asked why I threw it away. I told them, "it wasn't viable". Only the Dems in the group understood.

I remember one time when I had some repubs over to visit, they saw that I had all the makings for a cake. They insisted that I bake the cake, even though I had no desire to so. I tried to stop a few times, but they said that the cake was going to be so perfect, and I couldn't stop anyways as the oven was pre-heated (And that is all ovens did was bake cakes).

In the end they wanted nothing to do with my cake, and forced me to eat it all so it wouldn't 'go to waste'. They even refused to take any for later because it was all my responsibility.

That's when I realized that repubs are horrible people, and that their idea of analogies are frankly stupid.
 
I remember one time when I was preparing a cake. All of the ingredients were perfect, almost as though crafted by divine intervention. I decided I didn't want a cake, 5 minutes after it went in the oven.

People asked why I threw it away. I told them, "it wasn't viable". Only the Dems in the group understood.

The bible is clear that life begins with the first breath.
Why do you hate god's word?
 
If Republicans or Evangelicals gave a **** about avoiding abortions, they would make sure there is great sexual education in school and easy access to birth control and female health care.
But since the point is to point at someone you don't like and shout "baby murderer!" , they won't do what would actually prevent abortions.

It's not about preventing pregnancies, it's about shaming women for having sex.
 
If you believe that a foetus at that stage of development doesn't have a right to live then fine but don't use a dictionary to hide behind your choice.

Oh... oh my God you actually...

Okay, I really wasn't prepared. I didn't think anyone would just straight walk right into it like that.

*Wipes away a tear* This is... thank you for this gift. I haven't been this happy since one of my junior sailors actually replied with "What's updog?"

Softball pitches like this come along so rarely I am just... wow.

*Pulls you close* Thank you for this. Thank you.







Please nobody tell him. Let me have this.
 
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Please nobody tell him. Let me have this.
Either you posted a picture of a human foetus or one of a foetus of some other animal (maybe not even a foetus).

If the former then your argument "it isn't human therefore I any choice I make doesn't matter" still doesn't wash and if the latter then - childish.
 
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Oh don't get pissy with me because your invisible sky wizard that doesn't exist tells you to hate women.
 
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It's not about preventing pregnancies, it's about shaming women for having sex.

Nobody is shaming women for having sex. They oughta spread them legs as much as they want. But they have a higher level of accountability, since they can produce life. What an awesome gift that is.

Nobody is denying them birth control.
 
Nobody is shaming women for having sex. They oughta spread them legs as much as they want. But they have a higher level of accountability, since they can produce life. What an awesome gift that is.

Nobody is denying them birth control.

You are completely clueless about this.

At this stage, this suggests willful ignorance.
 
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