Teleportation anybody?
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Skeptical Greg
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Source?INRM said:
P.S. I don't think the U.S. millitary receives grants in the traditional sense..
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INRM said:
So, who exactly alleged it?
Indeed.
If you could find out by asking a web forum, then it would be pretty stupid to give anyone a grant to study it. Not that that's impossible...
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Re: Re: Teleportation anybody?
As a general observation, the way it would normally work is that the Pentagon (or any government agency) gives the grant to a university or think tank.
Lots of money is wasted studying "feasibility" of this or that.
Even teleportation wouldn't surprise me, but it would very much surprise me if the august academicians found it feasible.
Would you take federal bucks to write a report telling some hotshot leiutenant colonel that he's nuts, only more diplomatically?
If there's anything to this story at all, something like that is the story, except that some jounalist got hold of the report bfore it disappeared into the files.
As a general observation, the way it would normally work is that the Pentagon (or any government agency) gives the grant to a university or think tank.
Lots of money is wasted studying "feasibility" of this or that.
Even teleportation wouldn't surprise me, but it would very much surprise me if the august academicians found it feasible.
Would you take federal bucks to write a report telling some hotshot leiutenant colonel that he's nuts, only more diplomatically?
If there's anything to this story at all, something like that is the story, except that some jounalist got hold of the report bfore it disappeared into the files.
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Beaming people or large objects is impossible but researchers working for IBM and funded by IBM (in Austria) and others at CalTech and elsewhere are working on something called "quantum teleportation." There are quite a few references to it on Google if you want more information:
TeaBag420 said:
Haha
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6940417
The way they were talking towards the end indicate this will end up a black-project. Disappear from public view and continue in secret. 20 years down the road...
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Methinks that the bit about millitary applicability is 90% media babble. If such research ever results in something other than making a couple of photons or atoms do something spooky across inconcievable short distances once in a hundred times in a lab, I'd put down my good, not-gold standard backed American dollars that transportation is not the first end it goes to. I hate speculate on exactly what this could be useful for (if anything), but somehow communications or computing seems likely.
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Donks said:
What big media outlets know about science is that it is somehow important, but not as important as say sports.
So they send some kid who is fresh out of journalism school to cover the science beat. That is what a "science reporter" is, unless the publication's main focus is science.
You can see it even in the New York Times. They have a science section only once a week on Tuesday, and the quality of writing is much worse than the rest of the paper.
A sports section every day, though the Times isn't particularly known for it's sports coverage.
Remember, this is a high-end paper without funnies, an advice column, or astrology.
You mean the homoeopaths will then no longer have to sell their remedies, they can just have the effect teleported to the patients. Wait - it already works like that! There is no difference if the patient takes the homoeopathic medicine or if he does not! A miracle!Kumar said:If this could be possible, probably then, homeopathic effects will be known.
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Isn't this just "The Men who Stare at Goats" territory?
Rolfe.
Rolfe.
I heard the goats were the ones with the ideas. They were an away team of time travelling goats from the year 3100. The Marines ate them.
As a punishment, the goats have travelled further back in time and adjusted votes in the last few Presidential Elections, so the USA gets saddled with loony leaders and ends up being bought by North Korea and asset stripped for firewood.
No, really. You wait and see. Tonto, my goat spirit guide told me during our levitation session next week.
As a punishment, the goats have travelled further back in time and adjusted votes in the last few Presidential Elections, so the USA gets saddled with loony leaders and ends up being bought by North Korea and asset stripped for firewood.
No, really. You wait and see. Tonto, my goat spirit guide told me during our levitation session next week.
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neutrino_cannon said:
ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!
I bet you're the winner. In fact, not reading the linked articles, and not even using google to research further, I bet this has to do with a small line item in a defense budget that involves quantum encryption and the every-difficult task of reliably getting single photons (or other single particles I suppose) from point A to point B to point C through the atmosphere (dish-sat-dish) so as to establish perfectly (well, almost) secure comm links.
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No, men and maybe even tanks actually. See Bob Park's What's New? at http:www.aps.org/WN/WN04/wn102904.cfm for details. Bob talks about this kind of thinking in his book Vodoo Science- If you have a multi billion dollar military budget why not spend a few tens of thousands on crackpot ideas? Maybe, just maybe, one of these loonie ideas might just work. The rewards from only one would more than offset all the money spent on the others that didn't work.
You really don't want to know how much of your tax dollars go to govt. paid junk science proposals......teleportation, anti-gravity, remote viewing...probably spoon bending is in there somewhere.
You really don't want to know how much of your tax dollars go to govt. paid junk science proposals......teleportation, anti-gravity, remote viewing...probably spoon bending is in there somewhere.
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I'll give another ding-ding-ding. A few years ago I watched a TV show (very dry scientific documentary thing probably on public braodcast that would entertain nobody but a computer nerd like me) that was about scientists looking into usingsomething like photons to run computers. The idea was something like (and I'm no physicist) that at very small levels photons could make a quantum leap in essentially zero time. So if those photons (and I don't know if it was photons, but it was something like that) could carry information in something like wavelegths and the direction could be controlled then you would have something that could "teleport" information, instead of crusty old micro-circuits, and make a super computer. They weren't even close to having anything that would actually work, and I haven't heard anything since. But it sounds maybe kinda promissing for some type of information transfer applications (like communications or computing). Of course we need to be able to transfer one bit (as in binary digit) of data through "teleporatation" before we can zip people off to Aruba for the weekend.neutrino_cannon said:
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Well I developed a "Heisenberg Compensator" In my garage. It consists of a black and white TV chassis , coiled copper tubing and super glue. The concept is simple ...like a paper clip or a zipper. The front end (TV) takes the de-con structured matter information it is then processed with super glue ( to stop all atomic motion) than the"frozen " data,,, Well I can't tell you the details before I get a patent. Wouldn't want someone to steal my idea!
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DevilsAdvocate said:I'll give another ding-ding-ding. A few years ago I watched a TV show (very dry scientific documentary thing probably on public braodcast that would entertain nobody but a computer nerd like me) that was about scientists looking into usingsomething like photons to run computers. The idea was something like (and I'm no physicist) that at very small levels photons could make a quantum leap in essentially zero time. So if those photons (and I don't know if it was photons, but it was something like that) could carry information in something like wavelegths and the direction could be controlled then you would have something that could "teleport" information, instead of crusty old micro-circuits, and make a super computer. They weren't even close to having anything that would actually work, and I haven't heard anything since. But it sounds maybe kinda promissing for some type of information transfer applications (like communications or computing). Of course we need to be able to transfer one bit (as in binary digit) of data through "teleporatation" before we can zip people off to Aruba for the weekend.
Almost the exact same story was in Discover magazine's list of the top 100 scientific discoveries of 2004.
Pretty cool, but I think it's more likely we'll learn how to fold space by manipulating gravity before we learn how to convert matter into energy and then back again.