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Kumar said:
So many other(more than 100) also suggest somewhat similarily. One of my known person taking it for spinal injury with slight posivive results as yet. However it is still on early stage, but I don't know if fraud as you say, how such a serious fraud can exist in front of strict controlling agencies?
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Stem cell treatment is a VERY promising field of research. A long row of otherwise difficult or incurable diseases may one day be treatable by stem cell therapy, including diabetes.

However, almost ALL of those therapies are still in the first stages of research, and none are fully mature.

Anybody advertizing right now that they can cure all these diseases are liars and quacks.

There will always be fraud. Just look at homeopathy; it has managed to exist for 200 years so far. ;)

Hans
 
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Naddig74 said:
ie 'Until you die.'



Unless you consider 'dead' as 'cured.'



Also called 'suicide.'
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I think if a person practicing it get cured in between, it may be then discountinued. It may be for creating extreme impression of death. I can't say how body can behave after getting such impression but somewhat stem cell activation/mobilization can be thought, if not stimulation of physiological activities by decreasing quantitities of biochemicals in body.
 
MRC_Hans said:
Stem cell treatment is a VERY promising field of research. A long row of otherwise difficult or incurable diseases may one day be treatable by stem cell therapy, including diabetes.
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However, almost ALL of those therapies are still in the first stages of research, and none are fully mature.[/quote]

Right. Therefore I am also thinking natural ways till waiting is over.

Anybody advertizing right now that they can cure all these diseases are liars and quacks.

There will always be fraud. Just look at homeopathy; it has managed to exist for 200 years so far. ;)

Hans
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Can be there everywhere due to ignorance, leat adversities, half cooking or vested interests. It can still be managable in case of least adversities but what about where there can be substancial adversities?
 
MRC_Hans said:
Kumar, you have a nasty habit of doing this:

You get an idea, and ask about it.
People explain why it won't work.
Then you conclude that it might work anyway.

Now get this: Fasting to any considerable extent is not a feasible treatment for anything. End of story, and live with it.

Hans
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If it is to any extent, then ok. Thanks.
 
MRC_Hans said:
This may shock you, but religions are generally not very ethical.

They also very often don't make any sense.

Hans
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Then, I don't know why and what for most of world is mad or innocent or gulliable. God/nature is very strong in this sense.
 
Kumar said:
No but I am not telling due to respect & honour disclaimer. Apply your mind dynamically.
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That's not the way it works, Kumar. You can't just claim that a scientist has told you something which seems, perhaps, ill informed, and then when asked who told you that, so we can research the person and their credentials, refuse to tell us. We will not take it on faith. I respect people who can support their statements with facts.
 
Kumar said:
Can be there everywhere due to ignorance, leat adversities, half cooking or vested interests. It can still be managable in case of least adversities but what about where there can be substancial adversities?
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NO Kumar. Homeopathy is not just "currently unknown", all reliable scientific evidence shows us it is wrong.
 
Kumar said:
Then, I don't know why and what for most of world is mad or innocent or gulliable. God/nature is very strong in this sense.
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People are gullible, yes. Please do not equate "God" and "nature".

An aside question: to which religious faith do you belong?
 
Kumar said:
I think if a person practicing it get cured in between, it may be then discountinued. It may be for creating extreme impression of death. I can't say how body can behave after getting such impression but somewhat stem cell activation/mobilization can be thought, if not stimulation of physiological activities by decreasing quantitities of biochemicals in body.
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No.

By the way, when you are fasting, the amount of biochemicals and waste products in your body is actually rising (one of the reasons fasting is not recommended). The reason is the the body starts to metabolize fat deposits, where a lot of waste substances are stored.

Hans
 
Taffer said:
Well, since no scientific medical doctor currently practices stem cell therapy, since it has not been approved, then I am going to call what you say either a lie, or your quote is from someone who is not scientific, and are themselves lying.
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There is, of course, another possibility, which is that Kumar was told something else entirely but misunderstood it.

Since Kumar refuses to say who told him, and given his past history here, we can't rely on what Kumar posted being in any way valid.
 
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Mojo said:
There is, of course, another possibility, which is that Kumar was told something else entirely but misunderstood it.

Since Kumar refuses to say who told him, and given his past history here, we can't rely on what Kumar posted being in any way valid.
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Then of course he could be willfully misrepresenting it.
 
Taffer said:
That's not the way it works, Kumar. You can't just claim that a scientist has told you something which seems, perhaps, ill informed, and then when asked who told you that, so we can research the person and their credentials, refuse to tell us. We will not take it on faith. I respect people who can support their statements with facts.
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Just checking; how are the credentials of site & its research person, a link I recently provided?
 
Kumar said:
Just checking; how are the credentials of site & its research person, a link I recently provided?
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I don't know, I don't check out every link you post. Which one in particular are you wanting to discuss?
 
Kumar said:
Sorry but avoid derailing this thread involving homeopathy.
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Ok, fair enough, my apologies. However, my statement stands for many of the 'alternative medicine' ideas you put forward. Lets assume I meant "fasting" instead, shall we?
 
MRC_Hans said:
No.

By the way, when you are fasting, the amount of biochemicals and waste products in your body is actually rising (one of the reasons fasting is not recommended). The reason is the the body starts to metabolize fat deposits, where a lot of waste substances are stored.

Hans
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Naturally, when excess products are metabolized then waste products can also created. It should be happening daily. However some odds can be possible if some odds are to be removed.
 
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