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Split Thread Students should be punished for protesting

Hercules56

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Andy_Ross said:
Columbia University to pay $200m in settlement with Trump administration



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Columbia University to pay Trump admin $200m to settle dispute

The New York college becomes the first to agree to pay the Trump administration after it was investigated over campus antisemitism.
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Not sure if the fine is fair but Columbia and other colleges definitely need to punish lots of students for their unacceptable behavior and make sure such things dont happen again.
 
Hercules56 said:
Not sure if the fine is fair but Columbia and other colleges definitely need to punish lots of students for their unacceptable behavior and make sure such things dont happen again.
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Yes, how dare students protest in a way that might be noticed.
First of all they should tow the government line and secondly, IF they protest they should only do so by appointment somewhere out of the way where they don't bother other people. (and still be removed from the university of course)
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Yes, how dare students protest in a way that might be noticed...
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No they engaged in unsanctioned forms of civil disobedience that blocked access for other students, disrupted classes, disrupted club activities, and sometimes even committed assault and racial harassment.

While I 100% support their agenda of fighting for Justice in Palestine and ending the war, there are still consequences for non-violent protest and civil disobedience on college campus.

If anyone ever told you that there are no consequences for non-violent protest and civil disobedience they were lying to you.

Especially when it takes place on a college campus which is supposed to be focused on learning and civil activity.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
I should have said "The President Taco's Extortion Racket at work".
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What's the issue got to do with tacos?

College campuses are for learning, not harrassment.

Civil disobedience and non-violent disruptive protest may have a moral agenda, but there are sometimes still consequences.

Everyone knows this.
 
Hercules56 said:
What's the issue got to do with tacos?

College campuses are for learning, not harrassment.

Civil disobedience and non-violent disruptive protest may have a moral agenda, but there are sometimes still consequences.

Everyone knows this.
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Presidents don't impose fines, courts do.

Everyone knows this.

This was another case of President Taco using his position as leverage to pry some money out of an organization, similar to what he did to law firms.
 
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TellyKNeasuss said:
Presidents don't impose fines, courts do.

Everyone knows this.

This was another case of President Taco using his position as leverage to pry some money out of an organization, similar to what he did to law firms.
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Yes, the Department of Justice (DOJ) can institute fines, but it's typically in the context of enforcing federal laws and regulations, not for general revenue generation.

 
Hercules56 said:
Not sure if the fine is fair but Columbia and other colleges [1]definitely need to punish [2]lots of students for their [3]unacceptable behavior and [4]make sure such things dont happen again.
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1. Why? Also, define "punish." Would there be a blanket punishment for any and all infractions, or tiers? Who would adjudicate the process? Would there also be a process by which a student could appeal a determination? Also, what would a university or college do in the event of hundreds or even thousands of students taking part in behavior deemed unacceptable? (Also, see 3. below.)
2. "Lots?" What is the determinative factor(s), the cutoff below which a student may speak out and/or demonstrate on an issue?
3. Define "unacceptable."
4. How?
 
Regnad Kcin said:
1. Why? Also, define "punish." Would there be a blanket punishment for any and all infractions, or tiers? Who would adjudicate the process? Would there also be a process by which a student could appeal a determination? Also, what would a university or college do in the event of hundreds or even thousands of students taking part in behavior deemed unacceptable? (Also, see 3. below.)
2. "Lots?" What is the determinative factor(s), the cutoff below which a student may speak out and/or demonstrate on an issue?
3. Define "unacceptable."
4. How?
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Are you honestly asking why students who disrupted classes, disrupted club activities, blocked access to parts of the campus due to perceived political or religious affiliations, damaged campus property and took hostage campus buildings, should be sanctioned???

LOLOLOL!!!!

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Yes, sure, allow students to appeal their punishments if they feel they are actually innocent of the charges against them. Or if they feel the punishments are too harsh.
 
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Hercules56 said:
Are you honestly asking why students who disrupted classes, disrupted club activities, blocked access to parts of the campus due to perceived political or religious affiliations, damaged campus property and took hostage campus buildings, should be sanctioned???

LOLOLOL!!!!

:sdl:
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No, I'm honestly asking if you've thought out the particulars of your view and how difficult/complex it would be to manage. By your response I have my answer.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
No, I'm honestly asking if you've thought out the particulars of your view and how difficult/complex it would be to manage. By your response I have my answer.
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So you're saying colleges never dish out punishment for inappropriate behavior on campus??

Wow.
 
Hercules56 said:
Are you honestly asking why students who disrupted classes, disrupted club activities, blocked access to parts of the campus due to perceived political or religious affiliations, damaged campus property and took hostage campus buildings, should be sanctioned???

LOLOLOL!!!!

:sdl:



Yes, sure, allow students to appeal their punishments if they feel they are actually innocent of the
charges against them. Or if they feel the punishments are too harsh.
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It's a bloody university, there are no "charges".
 
Hercules56 said:
I should have said "The President Taco's Extortion Racket at work".
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What's the issue got to do with tacos?
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I am not sure if that was a serious question or not....

The nick name 'TACO' stands for Trump Always Chickens Out... it was created largely over Trump's tendency to announce tariffs, then (after the stock market tanks), announce the tariffs will be "delayed/cancelled/etc.".

However, I think the phrase "taco" can be used in other situations as well. For example, his calls in the 2016 election to jail clinton, which didn't go forward, because... trump chickened out (because in that case he realized it was a losing proposition). Or lawsuits he cancelled because he would have to sit for a deposition.
 
Regnad Kcin said:
1. Why? Also, define "punish." Would there be a blanket punishment for any and all infractions, or tiers? Who would adjudicate the process? Would there also be a process by which a student could appeal a determination? Also, what would a university or college do in the event of hundreds or even thousands of students taking part in behavior deemed unacceptable? (Also, see 3. below.)
2. "Lots?" What is the determinative factor(s), the cutoff below which a student may speak out and/or demonstrate on an issue?
3. Define "unacceptable."
4. How?
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Thank you.

I'd also like to know the answers to those questions.

It's easy to come up with solutions, but quite another thing to actually implement them as the fat clown is beginning to learn the hard way.


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