Student Teaching: Am I Supposed to be THIS miserable?

The thing I don't understand is, this is supposed to be a _mentor_, you know, someone who is supposed to be helping you become a better teacher. Now she is giving you a hard time about "lack of knowledge about teaching"? Let her know that if that is the case, it is because she has done a pi$$ poor job of providing you with the knowledge you need.
 
I think I've figured it out. I think the morning mentor has a "personality disorder," or some such problem. I don't know what one would call this, but lemmie 'splain, and it should become clear.

Sometimes she acts very strangely, but one would have to spend a lot of time with her to see it. I happen to spend that time with her, so I see it.

It is spring break now. Today was the last day of classes for the students. We teachers have a work-day tomorrow.

Anyway, with the students out for over a week, there was no point in starting a new lesson or unit today. They wouldn't remember it by the time they got back anyway. I had come to a point in my current unit on business letter writing to make a logical stop, but really couldn't figure out what we'd do today. Half the students are already gone, anyway, so what would be the point in trying to teach?

Last night at parent-teacher conferences, I asked MM (morning mentor) if we could have a game day. I had already asked students to bring their board games. She said she thought that would be a fine idea. I made sure to stress that we would play word games, to keep it English-related. That was great, MM said. We could put the radio on as well, I said. Why not? MM said.

Today, she did a 180 for no reason. When class started, I put the radio on. Without saying a word, she kept getting up to turn it down until finally she just turned it off. None of us knew what to say, so we said nothing.

I saw her sitting at the computer desk with a pad and clipboard. A few minutes into the period, I said, "whoops--can't forget attendance!" and took roll by sight. She wrote on her clipboard that it took me until 15 mins. into class to take attendance, when in the past she has assured me more than once that it doesn't matter if I take roll at the end of the period, so long at it gets taken down before class ends. Then she wrote down that I had no lesson plan for game day. Lesson plan?

The students forgot to bring their games, so I had them start writing clues for Pictionary while I sent another student to the library to check out some games for us like Scrabble and Trivial Pursuit. She wrote down that I was unprepared, and had no idea what to do.

She wrote a few other contradictory things down, but I can't remember them now--it's been two 13 hour days in a row. But things she had told me were fine were being counted against me today, for no reason.

Second hour is planning period, and that's when she quietly but irritatedly "reamed" me. She challenged what I had "bothered to learn" in my program. She said I seemed not to know very much about teaching literature, which I don't teach for her anyway, and which she's never observed me teaching. I told her I didn't know much--wasn't that why I was here? To learn how?

She got on my case about not writing lesson plans every day, when she had told me previously not to write lesson plans. She reiterated her much different student teaching program, which had her write lesson plans every day. Mine did not, but I write a damned good lesson plan, and have been told so by more than one expert, including her.

I have told her before that my program was heavy on educational theory, but light on practical applications. She began questioning--grilling--me about my previous semesters of observation. Didn't I have to write lesson plans and teach them during that? Yes, I said: I had to write and teach two plans the first semester, and four to six the second one. She didn't believe me.

Why, she demanded to know, did I know how to teach writing so well, but couldn't seem to manage teaching reading? I told her I have been a self-taught writer for thirty years now, and I know writing. I don't know how one teaches reading, exactly, but I learn more about doing it every day, and again, isn't that what I'm here for?

Didn't I learn how to teach reading in college? I read, didn't I? Surely I could teach what I had been taught? Didn't I learn the strategies while I was performing them? Well, yes, but I was learning them, not learning how to teach them, and learning them had all my attention at the time, thanks. Besides, I haven't been in an English classroom as a student in two years now. I've had my mind on learning other things, I told her, and I'm also a little bit overwhelmed and exhausted at the moment.

She asked me "How long are you going to keep scapegoating your program and refusing to accept responsibility for this yourself?" It went on like this for the entire 55 minutes of planning period. She stayed mad at me all morning long, leaving me in my classes alone without one word of where she was going--strictly against the rules of the program, and she knows that.

By afternoon, she was her usual kind, cheerful, helpful self.

So now what? I just know in my gut there is something wrong with this lady's head. When I first met her, she made a big, big deal about this episode when she got hit in the head, hard, with a basketball, a few years ago. It left her with a closed brain injury and some memory loss. Sometimes she can't remember words she wants to use, or facts she knows as well as her own name. But then she also sometimes does this personality 180. This is not the first time by any means.

What should I do, if anything? Her evaluation will determine if I pass, if I graduate, for heaven's sake! If she writes it during one of her Dr. Jekyll moments, I'm okay, but if she's Mr. Hyde, I'm screwed.

How do I tell TPTB that one of their veteran teachers occasionally goes off her nut?
 
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What I need to know are ways in which to effectively deal with a class that has mutinied. They know I am unskilled, and they know in my place they would be uncertain, and I am, and so they have decided to have fun with me.

I need to know what teachers do when this occurs.

They are at the point where they simply shout me down, so lecturing won't help now. I'm outnumbered one to thirty, and they have discovered they can simply drown me out. I don't know how to manage this classroom. I need strategies.

Thanks, though.


I had this problem when I was subbing at a private school for gifted kids.

They seriously have sent subs home crying. Now, you gotta understand I worked at that school in one job or another for 11 years, and every kid knew me as "Ducky." I wasn't getting much respect with that baggage. "Ducky" was the cool after-care person, or the summer camp counselor, NOT a respected teacher. My first day they were testing boundries very harshly. I talked with a friend of mine that was a permanent teacher there, and that particular period was free for them. So what I did was start sending unruly highschoolers to her room, where they promptly had a research project and presentation assigned to them, due the next day in my class open to my argumentation and critique (and you'e seen how I beat down trolls here.) I pulled no punches in the debate and argumentation. It was basically in a 3minutes them, 3 minutes me repeated 4 times. I had no prep or study time for their topics, and I told them that. Their grade on the project was given by the other teacher, who judged whether they scored any debating points, and they failed if they lost their temper with me. After a week of me grilling the kids to almost tears over their research, they just shut up and let me teach the class. Five of the kids failed that assignment. There were only six presentations done total.

That was the longest month of work I ever had, but those kids had the fear of me in them when it was over, and never had a problem with any classes after that. I don't miss that job.
 
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I had this problem when I was subbing at a private school for gifted kids.

They seriously have sent subs home crying. Now, you gotta understand I worked at that school in one job or another for 11 years, and every kid knew me as "Ducky." I wasn't getting much respect with that baggage. "Ducky" was the cool after-care person, or the summer camp counselor, NOT a respected teacher. My first day they were testing boundries very harshly. I talked with a friend of mine that was a permanent teacher there, and that particular period was free for them. So what I did was start sending unruly highschoolers to her room, where they promptly had a research project and presentation assigned to them, due the next day in my class open to my argumentation and critique (and you'e seen how I beat down trolls here.) I pulled no punches in the debate and argumentation. It was basically in a 3minutes them, 3 minutes me repeated 4 times. I had no prep or study time for their topics, and I told them that. Their grade on the project was given by the other teacher, who judged whether they scored any debating points, and they failed if they lost their temper with me. After a week of me grilling the kids to almost tears over their research, they just shut up and let me teach the class. Five of the kids failed that assignment. There were only six presentations done total.

That was the longest month of work I ever had, but those kids had the fear of me in them when it was over, and never had a problem with any classes after that. I don't miss that job.

I want to hear about the one who passed, that must have been....well, you tell us.
 
I want to hear about the one who passed, that must have been....well, you tell us.



I asked specifically that student have to research and present arguments to support capitol punishment. While I did my best to give that student everything the class gave me in gruff (from ad-homs to every other fallacy) that one student was able to name my logical fallacies, and shoot them down. She was, despite her penchant for wanting to argue with teachers, very gifted, and very adept.

I don't know what she does now, but I would not be surprised to see her as an attorney. She was very very smart, and very very adept.

I think my mojo was helped by the fact that no other student ever wanted to argue with her. She had a rep for winning debates. Her "A" was actualy based on a technicality of debate, but well presented. She earned it. I wish she would find this forum. She would have a great contribution.



ETA: By the way, she was avidly anti capitol punishment. That's why I had her argue that side.
 
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You've got a problem. Those notes she wrote down are going to be used to flunk you, no matter what she told you.

Make sure you have EVERYTHING she's told you written down, recorded, etc. She's decided to give you the full, complete, destructo-business.
 
Well I don't have, and now of course I feel just dandy wondering if she really is going to flunk me. Great. I haven't enough on my mind as it is.


ETA: I'm heading out for the meeting soon. I can't figure out how to make this little recorder work, as there were no instructions with it, so I'm taking pad and pen to write down what is said.

I want very much to tell them to stop mentioning my evaluation in any way, shape, or form. I want to hear not one more word about it. Every time they bring it up, it's a not-so-subtle threat, and I've had enough. I want to tell them lots of things, but I'll probably chicken out.

I'll post how it went when I get home this afternoon.
 
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I'm at school now.

The first thing MM did when I walked in was ask if I have plans ready for when we get back in a week.

I said, "Well, they aren't fully formalized, but yes, I have plans for what I'm doing."

She immediately began to scream--and I mean scream--at me.

"Don't get smart with me! I am in control of your career, and unless you show me a work-ethic, I will have you kicked out of this program, do you hear me?"

I left immediately, without another word, and went right for the principal.

I told him my story, and that I was concerned for MM's behavior over and above being threatened or insulted by it.

He told me one of his daughters was a student of MM's, and he is not surprised to hear of her acting this way at all.

I am sitting now at my afternoon mentor's computer, witing for her to arrive. I am to finish my grading for the quarter and leave, with the principal's blessing. I have also informed him of the meeting to have taken place this morning with MM and AM, and told him plainly that I will no longer meet with either of them without my college supervisor present. He agreed quickly, and kept assuring me he (he said "we," meaning the school) is on my side in this and not to worry.

What a mother-hating nightmare!!!
 
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You know, the guy at work everyone respects is an ex-Marine. Great guy, and you know if he's your friend, you're probably an okay person.

Once in a while, I reveal something about myself at work, like the fact I have no common sense. He saw me do something stupid once, and made the remark, "Six hundred horses under the hood and he's running in neutral."

Sounds about right.

So, in the spirit of the Big Man, it seems to me the only thing to say is your mentor's trying to loosen the lug nuts on you. Document everything, and I mean everything, including the fact you told the kids it was a game day. This may be one time when they'll back you up. She's not off her nut; she's a sneaky bitch who's found an opportunity, and is going to try and derail you.

Geez, no wonder they're having trouble finding teachers! If this is what you have to put up with!
 
The thing I don't understand is, this is supposed to be a _mentor_, you know, someone who is supposed to be helping you become a better teacher. Now she is giving you a hard time about "lack of knowledge about teaching"? Let her know that if that is the case, it is because she has done a pi$$ poor job of providing you with the knowledge you need.
This is unbelievably common in "management" positions (which that alleged mentor basically is). Why should teachers be exempt?
 
I think I've figured it out. I think the morning mentor has a "personality disorder," or some such problem. I don't know what one would call this
I do, but don't think I can say it here.

And I'm frankly sick to freaking death of people coming up with new and inventive ways to call it something else or worse, deflect accountability by creating a "disorder" to explain/excuse it away and break out the fashion drug of the day to "solve" it.


What should I do, if anything?
Short-term, try to grin and bear it, for your career's sake. Meanwhile search long and hard for another position. If/when you find one and before you leave, write a tactful but blunt letter to her boss and/or the top of the staff in general explaining all this. If they can't see she's a $%#@ / nut (or worse, see it but don't care), this isn't a place you wanna be.

Good luck.
 
Oh, hell, Red, why should it be happening at all? If you're a manager, you're there because you can LEAD, or you're supposed to be. It's one of the reasons I'm out putting out resumes and making contact with other trucking outfits. If I can just get some time, I've got some interviews lined up. If I can get a decent line haul gig, I'm out of this dump.

Why should Sling, who's taking a job teaching kids, whose actions will serve as a personification of what a good leader should be, put up with this? Add to this the latest little outburst from her MM, and frankly, I think that MM ought to be the one losing a job, not Sling. There's something wrong here.

Frankly, after all the management books I've read, after reading book after book by political and business leaders, the one thing I can say is this woman shouldn't be a mentor for anyone, and she sure as hell shouldn't be teaching. She ought to be a cubicle rat, if anything, because she's a bully and a creep.

I'm just glad Sling's fighting back, especially after the crap she's gone through in her life.
 
Thanks, Roadtoad.

I refuse to be bullied or abused anymore. If it means I lose everything, so be it. But I will not be a willing dog to get kicked around anymore.

In spite of my telling the principal that I will no longer meet with my mentors without my supervisor present, he called a meeting of the four of us anyway. MM was all smiles and rationality by then. She had a "plan" drawn up, a list of expectations for me, and tried to give it to me.

I said to the room that my acceptance of that document would be a tacit agreement with it, and I refused it until my supervisor can be present. I am documenting every thing that was said.

I have done 9 weeks of solo teaching in two classes, 5 weeks in two more. That's plenty. I intend to inform my program that they must move me to another school to finish the observation phase of my program. I refuse to work with her one more day.

If I have to quit, so be it, but I will get an attorney and sue.

RED, I'm not trying to place any label on this woman, and you didn't see how she acts. SHE'S SICK. There is something wrong with her mind. She has had a head injury and its effects are apparent. I don't know what to call it, because I am neither a neurologist or a psychiatrist. But something is seriously wrong with this woman. She was screaming at me for no reason whatsoever. She is trying to get me removed because she doesn't like my work-ethic. One person should not have the power to get someone removed for such a subjective and insignificant reason.

I haven't molested any kids, done meth on my desk, or hit a student. She simply thinks I"m not as prepared as I should be and that's trivial.

There is no way this is right. No way.
 
I've just returned from a meeting with the head of the education department at my college.

As far as I can tell, I will not be working with MM one day longer. In fact, I am not even to go back to school until my supervisor can go with me. Dept. Head calls it a "bad mentor/student fit," and she believes, as I do, that the relationship is not reparable.

The tentative plan she and I have worked out, subject to the approval of all, is that I will use the mornings for observation of other teachers, and will continue to teach the one class in the afternoon, and observe the other, but not teach it.

There is still a chance I can be removed from my school placement, if they insist, for any reason. If that happens, I must withdraw from the education program, take an "incomplete," and resume at another school for 8 weeks next fall. That is, if they can find a school that will agree after all that to take me.

I am devastated. I wish I believed in something to pray to, I'm that scared.
 
Drkitten, I was told that, for the umpteenth time, by my program director this morning.

That's the college's contract with the schools: we student teachers can be removed at any time, for any reason or no reason. If that happens, the progam withdraws us, we must resubmit and try again, and the new school has right of full disclosure regarding what happened at the previous placement. I've no right to any privacy of any kind.

I have no money for a lawyer, but I've already decided to contact one on Monday anyway. I need time to get my documentation ducks in a row.

The way a former student put it to a few of us, before we entered student teaching: "You are their slaves. They can make or break your career, and if they don't like you, you're screwed."
 
Drkitten, I was told that, for the umpteenth time, by my program director this morning.

Don't take the program director's word for it.

Program directors lie to students routinely when things have gone this far wrong, specifically to bluff students out of talking to lawyers, learning what their rights really are, and then going to court to have those rights enforced.

That's the college's contract with the schools: we student teachers can be removed at any time, for any reason or no reason. If that happens, the progam withdraws us, we must resubmit and try again, and the new school has right of full disclosure regarding what happened at the previous placement. I've no right to any privacy of any kind.

But it's not the college's contract with you. The college cannot sign away your rights via a third-party contract.
 
Thank you so much. I appreciate your sound advice, reasoning, and logic.
Of course they would say that. The a$$ is evidently the most sensitive and easily injured area of the body, as we can see by how carefully people are wont to cover it.

I had already resolved to get a lawyer, however, as soon as the first whiff of stink reached my nose. I have far too much invested in this to go slinking off, tail tucked and cowering.

You have my earnest gratitude.
 

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