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[bill smith]

Parts of it probably kept right on moving. The main deck and the landing gear, for instance. There may have been a bit of delay before the piling-up material could all make its way throught the holes in the wall, but it would have happened over such a short period of time that it hardly matters how much resistance it met. It acted in many ways like a modern 7.52X54R heavy ball hitting steel. The bronze and lead parts ablate a bit, but the steel core just keeps on keeping on for some distance. Hungarian yelolow tips will penetrate about an inch of steel at a hundred feet.

Just the air inside the fuselage would have added to the impact. It takes a whgile to squeeze the air out of the fuselage. To give you some idea of the significance of air pressure, try hitting yourself on the head with a partially-deflated tire. Not too impressive. Inflate it just short of bursting and hit yourself, it may as well be a rock.

Parts of it kept right on moving' ?.....'..a bit of delay before the piling-up material could all make its way through the holes in the wall' ? WHAT holes ? This is the stuff that was supposed to be MAKING the holes. I've noticed a fair bit of this insane kind of reasoning in the last week or so from the debunking side . I wonder if it's some new kind of strategy ?

 

[bill smith]

Parts of it probably kept right on moving. The main deck and the landing gear, for instance. There may have been a bit of delay before the piling-up material could all make its way throught the holes in the wall, but it would have happened over such a short period of time that it hardly matters how much resistance it met. It acted in many ways like a modern 7.52X54R heavy ball hitting steel. The bronze and lead parts ablate a bit, but the steel core just keeps on keeping on for some distance. Hungarian yelolow tips will penetrate about an inch of steel at a hundred feet.

Just the air inside the fuselage would have added to the impact. It takes a whgile to squeeze the air out of the fuselage. To give you some idea of the significance of air pressure, try hitting yourself on the head with a partially-deflated tire. Not too impressive. Inflate it just short of bursting and hit yourself, it may as well be a rock.

You mentioned the air moving forward in the plane when the nose stopped momentarily ? Well that same air would have COMPRESSED into the nose in an instant and burst that 757 wide open.

 

[tfk]

Using an eggshell as a hammerhead is generally a bad idea. If you tell me it can be done again I will still treject the notion as will anybody else who has a brain.

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You can "treject" anything you want. Your lack of understanding remains.

As I have explained to you several times already...

The eggshell (i.e., the thin aluminum skin) is NOT the sledge hammer.

And as BigAl explains clearly & simply in post 201 above:

"Because that "eggshell" had about 100 tons of aircraft structure behind it."

The 100 ton airplane was the sledge hammer. And a sledge hammer works PERFECTLY if it has a piece of eggshell stuck to the hammer face.

I have presented this IDENTICAL explanation to you before. The last time, instead of an "egg shell" it was a "piece of paper", if you recall.

Is any of this penetrating your thick skull? A six year old can understand this instantly. And yet, here we are again, 6 months after the last explanation, back at square one.

Do you have the reasoning AND RETENTION capacity that is equal to, or better than, a six year old?

Tom

 

[BigAl]

You mentioned the air moving forward in the plane when the nose stopped momentarily ? Well that same air would have COMPRESSED into the nose in an instant and burst that 757 wide open.

To the extent that the above makes any sense (not much), the jet skin is designed to handle positive internal air pressure because at cruising altitude people need more air to breath than the atmosphere at 30,000 ft can provide.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

another example: its reason why the military uses the designs they do to keep 4 lb birds out of the cockpit

This highlights the essential gap that's individuals such as bill are missing... momentum. how many times do we have to teach physics to these people?

 

[tfk]

try reading "a brief history of time" your head will explode like in the movie Scanners lol

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"A Brief History of Time". For bill?

Pearls before swine.

Tom

 

[bill smith]

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You can "treject" anything you want. Your lack of understanding remains.

As I have explained to you several times already...

The eggshell (i.e., the thin aluminum skin) is NOT the sledge hammer.

And as BigAl explains clearly & simply in post 201 above:

"Because that "eggshell" had about 100 tons of aircraft structure behind it."

The 100 ton airplane was the sledge hammer. And a sledge hammer works PERFECTLY if it has a piece of eggshell stuck to the hammer face.

I have presented this IDENTICAL explanation to you before. The last time, instead of an "egg shell" it was a "piece of paper", if you recall.

Is any of this penetrating your thick skull? A six year old can understand this instantly. And yet, here we are again, 6 months after the last explanation, back at square one.

Do you have the reasoning AND RETENTION capacity that is equal to, or better than, a six year old?

Tom

The explanation was as crap then as it is now T. So when you say the following ' And a sledge hammer works PERFECTLY if it has a piece of eggshell stuck to the hammer face.' are you indicating that the nose of the plane was obliterated ?

 

[BigAl]

The explanation was as crap then as it is now T. So when you say the following ' And a sledge hammer works PERFECTLY if it has a piece of eggshell stuck to the hammer face.' are you indicating that the nose of the plane was obliterated ?

Most certainly. So what?

Much of the sheet aluminum is burned to an ash in any protracted fire. You can see this yourself by tossing an empty beer can in a BBQ fire.

 

[lapman]

Parts of it kept right on moving' ?.....'..a bit of delay before the piling-up material could all make its way through the holes in the wall' ? WHAT holes ? This is the stuff that was supposed to be MAKING the holes. I've noticed a fair bit of this insane kind of reasoning in the last week or so from the debunking side . I wonder if it's some new kind of strategy ?

Thank you for proving that you're entire education on physics is from watching Road Runner cartoons. The nosecone would have crushed, but you have the radar and bulkhead right behind it being pushed by 100 tons of aircraft at a great velocity.

 

[beachnut]

Parts of it kept right on moving' ?.....'..a bit of delay before the piling-up material could all make its way through the holes in the wall' ? WHAT holes ? This is the stuff that was supposed to be MAKING the holes. I've noticed a fair bit of this insane kind of reasoning in the last week or so from the debunking side . I wonder if it's some new kind of strategy ?

Karate uses what against hard objects. Got physics?

How fast was 77 moving? How much kinetic energy did 77 have? You need to do the work if you want to leave your delusions behind. Stubblebine can't figure out 911; what is his block and how can he be so wrong without much effort?

Why can't Stubblebine do physics? Why can't you present the amount of energy? Because you don't do the hard work to back up your moronic delusions, you just talk.

The OP author thinks the exit hole was the entry hole. Case closed. We have followers in a failed movement making major errors in logic and posting failed ideas due to lack of knowledge and shallow research. Why is the entire 911TruthLies movement void of physics? Post some kinetic energy figures and tell me why 77 can't do the physical damage at the Pentagon that is in the shape of a aircraft impact at 535 mph. The damage to the Pentagon is exactly what a 757 at 535 mph would do. Failure is Stubblebine and your efforts to expose your lack of knowledge in physics and crash sciences.

 

[FineWine]

Parts of it kept right on moving' ?.....'..a bit of delay before the piling-up material could all make its way through the holes in the wall' ? WHAT holes ? This is the stuff that was supposed to be MAKING the holes. I've noticed a fair bit of this insane kind of reasoning in the last week or so from the debunking side . I wonder if it's some new kind of strategy ?

No, Bill, you haven't noticed any insane reasoning from the good guys. All the insanity is on your side.

 

[tfk]

The explanation was as crap then as it is now T. So when you say the following ' And a sledge hammer works PERFECTLY if it has a piece of eggshell stuck to the hammer face.' are you indicating that the nose of the plane was obliterated ?

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You cannot be this stupid. A SIX YEAR OLD, bill. A six year old could understand this.

Here is a generally applicable rule that you cannot seem to comprehend...

When I say "A sledge hammer works PERFECTLY if it has a piece of eggshell stuck to the hammer face" ...

... I mean ...

"A sledge hammer works PERFECTLY if it has a piece of eggshell stuck to the hammer face."

It is REALLY just that simple.

Do you ENJOY the humiliation?

tk

 

[triforcharity]

The explanation was as crap then as it is now T. So when you say the following ' And a sledge hammer works PERFECTLY if it has a piece of eggshell stuck to the hammer face.' are you indicating that the nose of the plane was obliterated ?

I would suspect so. Some may have survived, but not intact.

Finally, some light at the end of the tunnel. Too bad were seeing that light through a pin hole in the concrete wall you put up.

 

[TruthersLie]

No guys.
he is now shifting back to the "nose in/nose out" no planer bs.

cuz if the nose was destroyed, it wouldn't look like the nose cone no the no planer vids.
(which are ********, badly done, low quality videos).

Poor bill. Look up anthony lawson's vids. He completely owns da twoof no brainer... sorry no planers.

try again bill.