Stubblebine Speaks...

[BigAl]

So did the eggshell nose of he plane make the initial 16' hole in the reinforced concrete exterior wall then if the landing gear did not ?

Because that "eggshell" had about 100 tons of aircraft structure behind it.

 

[leftysergeant]

Jeez....that Brunel guy sure gets around. Most frequently to the advantage of he oficial story if the truth be told.

The only way that Bunel makes the official story look better is in that he makes twoofers look pathetic repeating his garbage. Now, can you show me that Robin Cook or the little maggot Bunel publicly made any such statement about al Qaeda being a mere "data base" before that low-born sorry excuse for a man went to the slammer?

(Too bad they still don't take Bunel's sort out and shoot them like they used to.)

 

[leftysergeant]

Stubbelbine has idiotic moronic ideas on 911. Stubbelbine apologized for McVeigh and for 19 terrorists; he failed on OKC and 911.

I hadn't heard about his connection with OKC.

Has he or that whackadoodle bimbo he married direct ties with Partin or Nelson? That sort of terrorists do seem to run in bunches with a lot of interlocking memberships from one movement to another.

 

[tfk]

No...I draw the line here- I want to see that post in which you said I confessed to a serious medical condition or I want an apology. That, or people can measure you by your response.

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I can provide several posts where you admit to a variety of serious medical conditions if you REALLY want me to, bill.

It's not on this website, of course, and I'll have to check with the mods for a TOS violation.

But, you give the word, and I'll be happy to comply...

tk

 

[tfk]

So did the eggshell nose of he plane make the initial 16' hole in the reinforced concrete exterior wall then if the landing gear did not ?

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You've had this explained to you several times. In great detail.

You were unable to understand the principles those last several times.

Please tell me what is likely to be different this iteration??

tom

 

[bill smith]

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I can provide several posts where you admit to a variety of serious medical conditions if you REALLY want me to, bill.

It's not on this website, of course, and I'll have to check with the mods for a TOS violation.

But, you give the word, and I'll be happy to comply...

tk

Go for it.

 

[bill smith]

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You've had this explained to you several times. In great detail.

You were unable to understand the principles those last several times.

Please tell me what is likely to be different this iteration??

tom

Using an eggshell as a hammerhead is generally a bad idea. If you tell me it can be done again I will still treject the notion as will anybody else who has a brain.

 

[BigAl]

Using an eggshell as a hammerhead is generally a bad idea. If you tell me it can be done again I will still treject the notion as will anybody else who has a brain.

It happened in a similar way at WTC1 and WTC2 and at the Empire State Building except that the plane that hit ESB was smaller and had little gas on board and ESB had real fireproofing.

 

[leftysergeant]

Using an eggshell as a hammerhead is generally a bad idea. If you tell me it can be done again I will still treject the notion as will anybody else who has a brain.

Using an egg shell full of buckshot works just great to break a lot of things, like sheet rock.

I even threw a condom through a glass window once.

Speed changes things a bit. As soon as that egg shell nose hit the wall, all the tons of metal, fabic and flesh in the aircraft piled up against it and kept it from bouncing off and caused it to shove its way through the wall.

 

[Justin39640]

So did the eggshell nose of he plane make the initial 16' hole in the reinforced concrete exterior wall then if the landing gear did not ?

the nose
the cockpit
the radar assembly and its support brackets
the frame of the aircraft
etc etc etc

the entry hole was 75 feet
only the punch out was 16

 

[bill smith]

Using an egg shell full of buckshot works just great to break a lot of things, like sheet rock.

I even threw a condom through a glass window once.

Speed changes things a bit. As soon as that egg shell nose hit the wall, all the tons of metal, fabic and flesh in the aircraft piled up against it and kept it from bouncing off and caused it to shove its way through the wall.

A condom hrough a glass window eh ? So the nose became filled with all manner of loose objects from the interior of the plane ? I suppose the nose must have stopped momentarily at the wall to allow all those objects to catch up with the nose ? I wonder what the rest of the plane was doing whiie the nose was stopped ?

This 9/11 physics is just wild man.lol

 

[BigAl]

A condom hrough a glass window eh ?
This 9/11 physics is just wild man.lol

Water jet cuts steel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sorgD9nhIQk​

 

[leftysergeant]

A condom hrough a glass window eh ? So the nose became filled with all manner of loose objects from the interior of the plane ? I suppose the nose must have stopped momentarily at the wall to allow all those objects to catch up with the nose ? I wonder what the rest of the plane was doing whiie the nose was stopped ?

Parts of it probably kept right on moving. The main deck and the landing gear, for instance. There may have been a bit of delay before the piling-up material could all make its way throught the holes in the wall, but it would have happened over such a short period of time that it hardly matters how much resistance it met. It acted in many ways like a modern 7.52X54R heavy ball hitting steel. The bronze and lead parts ablate a bit, but the steel core just keeps on keeping on for some distance. Hungarian yelolow tips will penetrate about an inch of steel at a hundred feet.

Just the air inside the fuselage would have added to the impact. It takes a whgile to squeeze the air out of the fuselage. To give you some idea of the significance of air pressure, try hitting yourself on the head with a partially-deflated tire. Not too impressive. Inflate it just short of bursting and hit yourself, it may as well be a rock.

 

[FineWine]

A condom hrough a glass window eh ? So the nose became filled with all manner of loose objects from the interior of the plane ? I suppose the nose must have stopped momentarily at the wall to allow all those objects to catch up with the nose ? I wonder what the rest of the plane was doing whiie the nose was stopped ?

This 9/11 physics is just wild man.lol

Yeah, Bill, it's good we have you around to keep these silly physicists in line. Why, they even try to sell the notion that loose paint flakes can damage a space shuttle traveling at 10,000 mph.

Paint flakes--imagine that!

Thanks for setting them straight. And the fact that you can refute these so-called experts without ever having cracked a science book in your entire life,
indeed without any sort of discernible education, is beyond all praise.

 

[Justin39640]

A condom hrough a glass window eh ? So the nose became filled with all manner of loose objects from the interior of the plane ? I suppose the nose must have stopped momentarily at the wall to allow all those objects to catch up with the nose ? I wonder what the rest of the plane was doing whiie the nose was stopped ?

This 9/11 physics is just wild man.lol

physics arent always cut and dry
esp when youre talking things that are very heavy and have complicated construction (the main reason why tony and heiwa fail is cause they try to simplify a infinitely complex model)

on the other hand
the world of the very tiny is even more bizarre
try reading "a brief history of time" your head will explode like in the movie Scanners lol

 

[Justin39640]

Parts of it probably kept right on moving. The main deck and the landing gear, for instance. There may have been a bit of delay before the piling-up material could all make its way throught the holes in the wall, but it would have happened over such a short period of time that it hardly matters how much resistance it met. It acted in many ways like a modern 7.52X54R heavy ball hitting steel. The bronze and lead parts ablate a bit, but the steel core just keeps on keeping on for some distance. Hungarian yelolow tips will penetrate about an inch of steel at a hundred feet.

Just the air inside the fuselage would have added to the impact. It takes a whgile to squeeze the air out of the fuselage. To give you some idea of the significance of air pressure, try hitting yourself on the head with a partially-deflated tire. Not too impressive. Inflate it just short of bursting and hit yourself, it may as well be a rock.

another example: its reason why the military uses the designs they do to keep 4 lb birds out of the cockpit

 

[Justin39640]

Yeah, Bill, it's good we have you around to keep these silly physicists in line. Why, they even try to sell the notion that loose paint flakes can damage a space shuttle traveling at 10,000 mph.

Paint flakes--imagine that!

Thanks for setting them straight. And the fact that you can refute these so-called experts without ever having cracked a science book in your entire life,
indeed without any sort of discernible education, is beyond all praise.

what was that in space
where very tiny particles moving very fast penetrate spacecraft, spacesuits and people but do no real damage (short term thats known of) but they find the trails they leave

 

[funk de fino]

A condom hrough a glass window eh ? So the nose became filled with all manner of loose objects from the interior of the plane ? I suppose the nose must have stopped momentarily at the wall to allow all those objects to catch up with the nose ? I wonder what the rest of the plane was doing whiie the nose was stopped ?

This 9/11 physics is just wild man.lol

I guess by your physics it is OK to jump off tall buildings. You will just hurt the soles of your feet?

 

[FineWine]

I guess by your physics it is OK to jump off tall buildings. You will just hurt the soles of your feet?

You see, Heiwa is right after all. Crush-up always equals crush-down, so no possible harm can result from taking a header off a skyscraper.

 

[tfk]

Go for it.

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Since I have your permission, OK...

Tom