Merged Steve Jobs has died.

Oh. I thought this was a statement about the world economy.



I'm sad to hear about Steve though...
 
He was one of the big ones in the PC field, and was great at getting talent and marketing. His work ethic and reality distortion field are legendary. It's sad to see his actual accomplishments pissed on by haters and fanboy hyperbole alike. And traditionally, I'm one of his haters, but credit where credit is due.

He had his flaws, but he certainly was a driving force behind many trends, and a highly intelligent visionary.
 
OnlyTellsTruths said:
Are you trying to say that the iPad was the first handheld device of its kind? Or just that you don't think the ones before it were any good.
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He was certainly the only one able to make the ideas stick and make the applications viable. I certainly wouldn’t have used a PDA. *Snerks :D
 
charlatan said:
As much as I despise the cult of Apple today, there was a time when Mac users were widely ridiculed. If it weren't for Steve Jobs and the wonderful machines he created I'm not sure I would have developed more than a cursory interest in computing and software engineering. It may be small in the scheme of things but he impacted at least one person's life in a significant way.
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:thumbsup:

:cry1
 
tyr_13 said:
He was one of the big ones in the PC field, and was great at getting talent and marketing. His work ethic and reality distortion field are legendary. It's sad to see his actual accomplishments pissed on by haters and fanboy hyperbole alike. And traditionally, I'm one of his haters, but credit where credit is due.
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I don't know if this addressed to me, but I'm not one of his "haters" BTW, I'm using a Mac right now and frequently buy songs on Itunes, so I appreciate the innovative tools he put on the market, I'm only criticizing the lack of perspective of certain people.

He surely didn't revolutionize the way I "see the world", he just made my work easier and faster.
 
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Darth Rotor said:
I'll grant him that.

For that alone, well done.
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You're serious, aren't you? Because he had a work ethic, well done?

Nothing about creativity, vision, raising the bar on innovative, intuitive and cool. I love Macs and feel this was more than being a hard worker. Heck, I'm a hard worker. He was a lot more. These aren't just toys (though they are that :) ), they're powerful tools and, sorry for cliche, game changers. Nothing against pen & paper, as far as they go. I don't understand dissing this guy. Could you have done what he did with hard work alone?
 
You can hate Apple fanboys for fawning all over Steve Jobs and his every word.

You can hate The Cult of Apple and everything Apple stands for.

You can hate on Steve Jobs all you want to.

What you can't do is deny the impact that Jobs has had on everything from the way your computers work (PC or Mac), the way you consume media, the design of your personal electronics, the movies you and your kids watch together, etc. Not to mention the fact that he led Apple from the brink of collapse to one of the largest companies in the world. Unless you are Amish or a Luddite, you have been impacted by Steve Jobs' work.

He was (one of, anyway) our generation's Edison, IMO. His influence will be felt for sometime to come whether you like it or not.

RIP Steve Jobs.
 
xjx388 said:
You can hate Apple fanboys for fawning all over Steve Jobs and his every word.

You can hate The Cult of Apple and everything Apple stands for.

You can hate on Steve Jobs all you want to.

What you can't do is deny the impact that Jobs has had on everything from the way your computers work (PC or Mac), the way you consume media, the design of your personal electronics, the movies you and your kids watch together, etc. Not to mention the fact that he led Apple from the brink of collapse to one of the largest companies in the world. Unless you are Amish or a Luddite, you have been impacted by Steve Jobs' work.

He was (one of, anyway) our generation's Edison, IMO. His influence will be felt for sometime to come whether you like it or not.

RIP Steve Jobs.
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Hear, hear. Apple was a joke when he came back and took charge. If nothing else, he was a masterful marketer.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
Off the top of my head, after a bunch of beers:

  1. Leonardo DaVinci
  2. Ben Franklin
  3. Alexander Graham Bell
  4. Thomas Edison
  5. The Wright Brothers
  6. Henry Ford
  7. David Sarnoff
  8. Thomas Watson
  9. Steve Jobs

He belongs on the list. Period.
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I would add a few more to the list, like jennings, haber or pasteur which revolutioned the world much more...
 
Darth Rotor said:
No.

Hype, pretentiousness, and Apple are roughly synonyms.
I've been around since well before the PC or Apple II or whatever the tech du jour is, was a commonplace.

I've seen this whole game played out from move 1. Hell, move 0.

Mind you, "get them while they are young" was part of his Schtick, as he tried to infiltrate schools with Apple products. Were you alive and aware in those days? I was.

The term "wanker" is what Brits call folks imbued with such qualities as Apple caters to.

In a word or two, Apple fanbois, and the above, match to near perfection.
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Although I would not be so vitriolic, and i would recognize that they made a good marketing for product, I have to say I at least partly agree with you. But I don#t think this is the thread for it.

Let them greave.
 
Pardalis said:
Still a gadget.

Darwin revolutionized the way we see the world.
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And people like jennings/pasteur revolutioned our health.

Jobs did a great.... job, but I would not in any way shape or form compare him to Ford, or any of the aforementioned. For one it is much too early. See maybe in 20 years if the tablet bubble stays, and do not simply implode. Then we can speak. For example he clearly revolutioned the portable mp3 player. But I would not call that really society changing.
 
leonAzul said:
I suspect that the BBC obit will undergo a bit of revision once they get around to doing some fact checking.

The year between diagnosis and surgery was mostly spent consulting with medical experts to determine the best treatment plan. The specific type of cancer he had was a rare form that is not as aggressive as most pancreatic cancers. This allowed him the time to plan more carefully. Alternative therapies were never a serious consideration. Diet and such were investigated to improve survivability of intervention, whether surgical or chemical.

Not that I'm misty-eyed or anything, but he shall be missed.

No more "One more thing…"
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One year to consider a cancer treatment ? Even if non agr4essive, color me very very surprised or even doubtful.
 
It says a lot about someone that negative posts about their death would upset me. I respected the man.

In high school I joked and talked a lot of crap about Jobs. My network account my sophomore year was "SteveJobsSucks." I was raised in a PC family; my earliest memories of my father are of him using a computer in the early 80's, another in string of machines he'd built. I scoffed at Macs. I thought they were clunky and completely unappealing, for years the designs were awful! But they stuck around. The jokes stuck around too.

I made the switch maybe 7 or 8 years ago. I was gifted the first iPod shuffle, and then later took a film class using iMovie. I got an iBook, and it was beautiful. The design! So sleek, so white, so 2001 Space Odyssey. And it never crashed, never got a single virus. I was in love.

I'm using a Sony Vaio laptop as I type this. The second hard drive from my original iBook G4 is now in another iBook body of the same era, after months of being without a machine. I'm using this borrowed Sony because I downloaded a Windows product for school. But I prefer my Mac. And I have to respect Jobs for that. He won me over. I'm grieved that the man is gone.
 
But on a lighter note...not compare him to Ford? Imagine replacing the exclamation "By Jove!" with "By Jobs!" a la 1984. I'm just saying it works.
 
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