Moderated Steel structures cannot globally collapse due to gravity alone

naw, the Titanic sank because of issues with the metallurgy of the steel and the riveting on the ship, plus the alleged water tight compartments weren't so watertight, were they?

i'm a big fan of the Titanic and I know a tremendous amount about the ship, in fact, I'll share something, on my mother's side, her mother, my grandmother were immigrating from europe and were tickete and booked aboard the maiden voyage,


the family got delayed at the port of hamburg and the missed the sailing from england

I still have 11 first class tickets, from my grandmother's family, from white star lines, in my safety deposit box at my bank in pristine condition

just will hand them down to my own kids and grandkids

So, did they cancel or just not show up?
 
so you drew a blank and came up empty, i warned you beforehand, at least you tried, no you can thank me for correcting and informing you, as you proved, nothing correalates and nothing comes close, despite your initial lunatic fring ranting and ravings

I rest my case as I bid adieu for the weekend, thank you very much for proving me correct and for backing me up, you shows great signs of improvement in just 2 days, there may be hope for you yet.
 
care to explain why the NIST failed to use microscopic techniques, such as an SEC, scanning electron microscope in their analysis? There's still no evidence of martensiting effect, yet they claimed yield and strenght loss and tensile and plasticity and that can not happen with out showing and verifying a martensiting, plus several others, then of course you have to compare it against the original core samples from the original steel heats for a comparison
Because it is well understood and accepted by the entire construction and steel community how steel behaves in fires. What you are committing is a call to perfection logical fallacy.
and no there still is not an actual fmea chart in the report

move goalposts much? I showed where you were mistaken and now you move on to a chart? See above
Call to perfection logical fallacy
 
And yet, you keep losing..

But you still congratulate yourself in a masturbatory style to say how great you are, and insult everyone else.

You, are no debater. Nor are you educated enough to discuss the events of that day. Your arguments from incredulity are not facts, or evidence.

Please provide some evidence.
I would never engage in a debate unless I already knew going in that I was going to be the winner...that's why I don't debate cookie recipes, maybe you would beat me of cookie recipes, but not on 9/11, the wtc and other things in this topic, I rule, ask around
 
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That, and the fact that bob's claim is utterly false. Three times I presented examples of commercial steel buildings that collapsed due to fire and asked him for his comments on what destroyed them. He didn't reply, hence my putting him on ignore.

Has anyone seen a clearer case of trolling here? Maybe time to stop giving him what he craves, eh?

Yup. He's directly ignored substantive information put to him by you, Grizzly, Dave... well, just about everybody who's brought up real points. He's made my ignore list. My own point from earlier has been made already anyway.
 
you guys sure do tense up a lot, c'mon, how gullible are you going to be in life, especially when it comes to a very incomplete and nonsensical report on 9/11 from the goovernment's own media office such as the NIST turned into?


this is akin to trusting in the small value added remarks of the popular mechanics piece backing up the nist report, well not backing the report up, just attacking the 9/11 nay sayers, the esteemed body of all engineers and scientists across the world that don;t believe and trust the "official report"

you guys need to chill out, you accepted something at face value because you were afraid not to trust something, people with real time education and real world hands-on experience knew, we all were savy enough to realize that these buildings should never have come down to begin with, unless they were specifically intended to be brought down
 
I would never engage in a debate unless I already knew going in that I was going to be the winner...that's why I don't debate cookie recipes, maybe you would beat me of cookie recipes, but not on 9/11, the wtc and other things in this topic, I rule, ask around
No worries you can't debate 911 save your failed idiotic delusions.

The dumbest statement is your fire can't damage steel; the smoking gun of your ignorance on 911.

I doubt you can do a better job exposing your ignorance on 911, but I bet you will try.
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You apologize for terrorists who murdered 3000; and you do it poorly and effectively avoid providing any support for the delusions you post or the OP.
 
I can see why some might want to ignore me, it's because they are very afraid of being told the truth and being educated, plus I destroyed, flat out nuked everything they were told to believe by the government

they don't know better, they don't want to know better, that's why they earn their names of shills and sheeples

and when someone like me comes along, it rocks their world and knocks them out, because I bring in real world enginnering, applications, experience and testing and it destroys and invalidates everything they thought they knew in life
 
No worries you can't debate 911 save your failed idiotic delusions.

The dumbest statement is your fire can't damage steel; the smoking gun of your ignorance on 911.

I doubt you can do a better job exposing your ignorance on 911, but I bet you will try.
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You apologize for terrorists who murdered 3000; and you do it poorly and effectively avoid providing any support for the delusions you post or the OP.
get over 9/11 already, forget about it, no one cares, i speak for all Americans
 
Can someone let me know if/when bob ever takes up my suggestion in Post #1382 to obtain the relevant texts I've suggested him? Has he even read it yet?
 
Bob's here to just be silly, people.

And silly your are Bob. Have a great weekend.
 
Bobs a legend in his own mind. We pretty much showed what idiocy he posts. He has retreated into applauding himself for arguments he has lost.

oh and Bob?
get over 9/11 already, forget about it, no one cares, i speak for all Americans
 
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