Steel framed builing partially collapsed today

[Drudgewire]

You are correct

I don't ignore twoofers by any stretch. Got lots of 'em on here I'd never consider putting on ignore.

Beliefs don't earn you a spot there, tactics do. Once you've proven yourself to be uninterested in answers and more interested in playing a stupid button-pushing game to get under people's skin you're gone.

Well, except for Tweeter because I have to marvel over how good he is at it with people who should be way too smart to keep letting him get to them.

 

[yodaluver28]

This is incredible.

It is amazing that people like theauthor would rather nitpick at inconsequential details than accept the obvious reality.

What's wrong with them? Do they WANT 9/11 to be an inside job? Does that thought actually make them HAPPY?

My personal opinion is that for the die-hard conspiracist it is their religion, their theology and philosophy of life. Whether they enjoy thinking that way or just get trapped in the vortex and once they've started, can't stop, I have no idea. But like any philosophy or theology, they use this viewpoint to evaluate everything they come across in life. I think alot of them want it to be true, so badly they can taste it. Conspiracism is an enormous ego trip if you think about it. They spend almost all of their energy in life obsessed with the notion that they are intellectually and morally superior to practically everyone else on the face of the earth, whether they be the evil lizard-based overlords bent on world domination or just stupid little sheeple being controlled by The Man. Then there's the awesome feeling of importance they feel when they convince themselves that they are so keenly attuned to these dark secrets that there are dozens, maybe even hundreds or thousands, of people devoted to debunking, dis-info-ing, stalking, and plotting against them personally.

 

[peteweaver]

i really wonder if we could take Bazant's formulas and prove the the building was not able to arrest the collapse.

The load bearing section under the failed part was not able to arrest collapse.

However this building was not constructed the way the WTC's were. Its load distribution was very different, like several buildings stuck together rather than one single block.

 

[peteweaver]

what university is that ?

 

[DC]

The load bearing section under the failed part was not able to arrest collapse.

However this building was not constructed the way the WTC's were. Its load distribution was very different, like several buildings stuck together rather than one single block.

indeed the WTC Towers was a very special design, while i am very very impressed by the core "tube" i was kind shocked when i saw the truss perimeter connections the first time.

 

[DC]

what university is that ?

Delft, Netherland.

 

[Pardalis]

but i thaught initial collapse = global collapse.

Is that all you got to say? What does this even mean?

 

[Walter Ego]

what university is that ?

Delft University in the Netherlands apparently.

Here's the video of the collaspe.

http://dumpert.nl/mediabase/105731/46ccb8cd/bouwkunde_gebouw_delft_stort_in.html

 

[Pardalis]

DC, you write 40 posts per day, why is it so long for you to answer in this thread?

Let's recap:

but i thaught initial collapse = global collapse.

i really wonder if we could take Bazant's formulas and prove the the building was not able to arrest the collapse.

but it shows that no Explosives (in case the was non) are needed for pulverizing Concrete

You're so desperate to believe in the 9-11 OCTthat you need to deny NIST's Initial Collape = Global Collase

What on earth are you trying to say here? What's your point?

 

[Drudgewire]

"Oh it just so happened to be an architectual engineering building. Isn't that convenient."

 

[-hp-]

i hope nobody got hurt.

en dan nog het Bouwkunde gebouw.

but i thaught initial collapse = global collapse.

Fortunately nobody got hurt. It's indeed Delft University of Technology. Do you know the place? You seem to be Dutch.

Another video of the collapse:
youtube.com/watch?v=Dec9FmTgXN4

Some video's of the fire:
youtube.com/watch?v=nk4dloF47l8
youtube.com/watch?v=y0cbRKSWE1k
youtube.com/watch?v=bRMSqSf1rFM

 

[munki?]

Thought it could be interesting, the faculty of architectural engineering of my university caught fire this moring at 9:00 AM due to a electrical shorting. At 1:30 PM eyewitnesses (me included) heard an explosion that broke out several windows, then the fire department decided to pull back and let it burn controllably because they feared the structural integrity of the building was in danger. Around 4:30 PM a part of the 13 story steel framed building collapsed. There are still some fires going, so I'll keep you posted if anything happens.

Foto's:
nu.nl/slideshow/slideshowpopup.jsp?action=GetSlideshow&id=1564241

A video of the collapse:
dumpert.nl/mediabase/105731/46ccb8cd/bouwkunde_gebouw_delft_stort_in.html

Very interesting.

And welcome to JREF, -hp-.

 

[DC]

Fortunately nobody got hurt. It's indeed Delft University of Technology. Do you know the place? You seem to be Dutch.

Another video of the collapse:
youtube.com/watch?v=Dec9FmTgXN4

Some video's of the fire:
youtube.com/watch?v=nk4dloF47l8
youtube.com/watch?v=y0cbRKSWE1k
youtube.com/watch?v=bRMSqSf1rFM

Neen hoor maar ik spreek wel een beetje ABN and plat flaams

Im not Dutch, im swiss, but happened to have lived in Belgium (Flaanderen/Kortrijk) for 7 years.

and i never was in Delft, but in europe Delft is a well known University.

 

[X]

Sorry to hear about your university.

Hopefully nobody lost valuables (books, research, tech, etc) in the fire.
Or at least, that they can be replaced.

If there's anything Engineering departments from other universities can do to help, we'd be glad to try.

 

[DGM]

Fortunately nobody got hurt. It's indeed Delft University of Technology. Do you know the place? You seem to be Dutch.

Another video of the collapse:
youtube.com/watch?v=Dec9FmTgXN4

Some video's of the fire:
youtube.com/watch?v=nk4dloF47l8
youtube.com/watch?v=y0cbRKSWE1k
youtube.com/watch?v=bRMSqSf1rFM

Welcome hp! now you have enough post to do this yourself.

 

[-hp-]

Very interesting.

And welcome to JREF, -hp-.

Thx munki?!

Neen hoor maar ik spreek wel een beetje ABN and plat flaams

Im not Dutch, im swiss, but happened to have lived in Belgium (Flaanderen/Kortrijk) for 7 years.

and i never was in Delft, but in europe Delft is a well known University.

Tof om te horen (cool to know)! Only been to Switserland a couple of times on vacation, nice counrty. A lot of different languages though.

Sorry to hear about your university.

Hopefully nobody lost valuables (books, research, tech, etc) in the fire.
Or at least, that they can be replaced.

If there's anything Engineering departments from other universities can do to help, we'd be glad to try.

Some of the works of for example Rietveld, Le Corbusier and Frank Lloyd Wright are gone. And all the maquettes of course, a couple of my friends lost their study materials.

Welcome hp! now you have enough post to do this yourself.

Thx DGM! Finally earned those precious privileges

 

[mrbaracuda]

Again, a building partially collapses. Big deal.

Didn't you see the squibs?

Clearly it was an inside-job.
Oh and you might also notice the kink in the middle. And I bet some Steven Jones could find some sulphur.

Can't wait for whatever loose change would translate to in Dutch!

 

[Pardalis]

DC:

What's your point?

Since you ignore my question, I guess you don't have one.

 

[1337m4n]

Hmm, did it look to anyone like that section collapsed at near freefall?

 

[mrbaracuda]

Hmm, did it look to anyone like that section collapsed at near freefall?

Now that you say it..
We shall time the fall of the outer debris to solve the puzzle! You go ahead, I'll eat some more popcorn!