States refusing to accept Syrian refugees

cornsail said:
In the past 10 years, in the US, there's been approximately...

8 people killed in terrorist attacks perpetrated by people not born in the US
23 people killed in terrorist attacks that had anything to do with Islam or Muslims
49 people killed in terrorist attacks
300 people killed by lightning
160,00 regular homicides
366,00 motor vehicle fatalities
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I bet some of those vehicle fatalities were caused by Muslims. Is anyone tracking that?
 
I don't understand why people are so afraid of terrorism in this country (over 50% are opposed to taking in refugees). Or are they just jerks who place no value in the idea of helping people? I would appreciate it if someone could explain this to me.
 
cornsail said:
I don't understand why people are so afraid of terrorism in this country (over 50% are opposed to taking in refugees). Or are they just jerks who place no value in the idea of helping people? I would appreciate it if someone could explain this to me.
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The latter option. At least in my opinion. They're privileged a-holes who don't like what THEY call moochers, for the most part.

**Please note the preceding words were merely my opinion and not based on any evidence beyond my own observations of how people are reacting.
 
cullennz said:
Because as the title says, those are the ones your blocking

Can you explain why non Syrian refugees would be counted given the title and logic
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Yes. It's because I'm pointing out the silly little numbers game you're playing, wherein you isolate and cherry pick a particular nationality of refugee in order to concoct a favorable per capita comparison for NZ vs the US. You then attempt to justify your little bogus game by invoking the thread title in an obvious attempt to censor my counterpoint.
 
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Travis said:
My personal view is that we should let all the refugees in. Accept that some nasty people will tag along and deal with them as they do whatever terrible thing they attempt. I'm willing to trade some terrorist attacks on my own soil for allowing so many innocent people a way out of that situation. Maybe I'm more confident in my society to deal with and endure some terrorism than so many others.

The way I look at it my society is not going to be toppled by a few terrorist incidents. They are put meddlesome pinpricks poking through a much larger quilt that will stand strong after their own expression of malice has passed.

Are we so afraid? Is this what we've become?
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Plus there is already the fairly comprehensive refugee screening process by US officialdom, plus all the other bureaucratic hoops they would need to go through. All fully documented and I gather quite comprehensive. In other words, there would be an army of federal officials, paperwork handlers, doctors, lawyers, support staff, interviewers, researchers and all the other machinery involved in the immigration process which are already in place and ready to do their real daytime jobs.

Really, Trump's comments show either vast ignorance of the reality of the refugee screening process that can be done right now today, or he is simply stirring up faeces. I do tend to think it is the latter.
 
Really, Trump's comments show either vast ignorance of the reality of the refugee screening process that can be done right now today, or he is simply stirring up faeces. I do tend to think it is the latter.
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47 Dems tacitly agree with Trump
 
trustbutverify said:
Accept all Syrian refugees into the US? Isn't Iran closer? Why not have Iran take in nearly all Syrian refugees and have the US accept the small portion leftover?
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Well Iran is Shi'a so I doubt any Sunni Syrian would want to go there and I doubt Iran would take in Sunni refugees either. While some Shi'a Syrians may have gone to Iran many of them could have gone to the areas controlled by the (Iran-backed) Syrian Government, which is Alawite (an offshoot of Shi'a Islam).
 
TriangleMan said:
Well Iran is Shi'a so I doubt any Sunni Syrian would want to go there and I doubt Iran would take in Sunni refugees either. While some Shi'a Syrians may have gone to Iran many of them could have gone to the areas controlled by the (Iran-backed) Syrian Government, which is Alawite (an offshoot of Shi'a Islam).
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Which illustrates that this is as much a war within Islam, as it has been for 1400 years, as against the west.

Muslims were complaining that the west didn't light candles for the dead in Beirut, like they did for Paris without even recognizing that that was just another incident of Sunni against Shiite, or that Hezbollah, the target, is a terrorist organization itself.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
It takes 2 years to process a refugee and what, a week or a month to get a tourist visa? Think a French citizen couldn't get a tourist visa for the US? Why would ISIS use a refugee disguise to sneak a sleeper in this country? It's a completely different situation in the EU.

It's right wing pandering.
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Maybe we should follow the Democrat example and force them all into internment camps.
 
TriangleMan said:
Well Iran is Shi'a so I doubt any Sunni Syrian would want to go there and I doubt Iran would take in Sunni refugees either. While some Shi'a Syrians may have gone to Iran many of them could have gone to the areas controlled by the (Iran-backed) Syrian Government, which is Alawite (an offshoot of Shi'a Islam).
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Sectarianism might not be the most important reason Syrian refugees aren't seeking asylum in Iran, and Iran doesn't want them.
 
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