Star Wars Beam Weapon and the WTC Bathtub

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

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That cat looks like it is MRDD. It's my new wallpaper.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

Gravy, it is beyond the pale to kill innocent kittens in protest against those with whom you have a scientific disagreement.

 

[The_Fire]

Gravy, it is beyond the pale to kill innocent kittens in protest against those with whom you have a scientific disagreement.

Scientific? You? That was a good one, BS.

Besides, do you think pissing on the graves of almost 3000 people just to prove how much of an attention whore one is, is better?

 

[chipmunk stew]

Gravy, it is beyond the pale to kill innocent kittens in protest against those with whom you have a scientific disagreement.

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It's up to you, TS! Will you let all these poor innocent kittens fall to their deaths?
Or will you stop lying, and help them land safely?​

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[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Gravy, it is beyond the pale to kill innocent kittens in protest against those with whom you have a scientific disagreement.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

From Wood/Reynolds

[SIZE=+1]Here are the principal data that must be explained:[/SIZE]

1. The Twin Towers were destroyed faster than physics can explain (free fall speed "collapse")
2. The protective bathtub was not significantly damaged by the destruction of the Twin Towers
3. The rail lines, rail cars and tunnels had only light damage
4. The WTC mall survived well, witnessed by Warner Bros. Road Runner and friends
5. The seismic impact was minimal, far too small based on our comparison with the Kingdome controlled demolition
6. The Twin Towers were destroyed from the top down, not bottom up, unlike WTC7
7. The upper 80 percent, approximately, of each tower was turned into fine dust and did not crash to the earth
8. File cabinet with folder dividers survive
9. Office paper was densly spread throughout lower Manhattan, unburned, often along side burning cars.
10. Vertical round holes were cut into buildings 4, 5 and 6, plus a cylindrical arc into Bankers Trust and into Liberty street in front of Bankers Trust
11. All planes but top secret missions were ordered down until 10:31 a.m. (when only military flights were allowed to resume), after both towers were destroyed, and only two minutes after WTC 1 had been destroyed
12. Approximately 1,400 motor vehicles were towed away, toasted in strange ways during the destruction of the Twin Towers
13. The order and method of destruction of each tower minimized damage to the bathtub.
14. Twin Tower control without damaging neighboring buildings, in fact all seriously damaged or destroyed buildings had a WTC prefix, and no others.
15. The north wing of WTC 4 was left standing, neatly sliced from the main body which virtually disappeared
16. The WTC1 and WTC2 rubble pile was far too small to account for the mass, unlike that of WTC7
17. Eyewitness testimony about toasted cars, instant disappearance of people by "unexplained" waves, a plane turning into a mid-air fireball and electrical power cut off moments before WTC 2 destruction, the sound of explosions
18. The possibility that a technology exists. Since invention of the microwave for cooking in 1945 and laser beam in 1955*, commercial and military development of beam technology has proceeded apace, so use of high-energy beams are likely

 

[The_Fire]

From Wood/Reynolds

Quote:
Here are the principal data that must be explained have already been debunked:

1. The Twin Towers were destroyed faster than physics can explain (free fall speed "collapse")
2. The protective bathtub was not significantly damaged by the destruction of the Twin Towers
3. The rail lines, rail cars and tunnels had only light damage
4. The WTC mall survived well, witnessed by Warner Bros. Road Runner and friends
5. The seismic impact was minimal, far too small based on our comparison with the Kingdome controlled demolition
6. The Twin Towers were destroyed from the top down, not bottom up, unlike WTC7
7. The upper 80 percent, approximately, of each tower was turned into fine dust and did not crash to the earth
8. File cabinet with folder dividers survive
9. Office paper was densly spread throughout lower Manhattan, unburned, often along side burning cars.
10. Vertical round holes were cut into buildings 4, 5 and 6, plus a cylindrical arc into Bankers Trust and into Liberty street in front of Bankers Trust
11. All planes but top secret missions were ordered down until 10:31 a.m. (when only military flights were allowed to resume), after both towers were destroyed, and only two minutes after WTC 1 had been destroyed
12. Approximately 1,400 motor vehicles were towed away, toasted in strange ways during the destruction of the Twin Towers
13. The order and method of destruction of each tower minimized damage to the bathtub.
14. Twin Tower control without damaging neighboring buildings, in fact all seriously damaged or destroyed buildings had a WTC prefix, and no others.
15. The north wing of WTC 4 was left standing, neatly sliced from the main body which virtually disappeared
16. The WTC1 and WTC2 rubble pile was far too small to account for the mass, unlike that of WTC7
17. Eyewitness testimony about toasted cars, instant disappearance of people by "unexplained" waves, a plane turning into a mid-air fireball and electrical power cut off moments before WTC 2 destruction, the sound of explosions
18. The possibility that a technology exists. Since invention of the microwave for cooking in 1945 and laser beam in 1955*, commercial and military development of beam technology has proceeded apace, so use of high-energy beams are likely

There, BS, fixed it for you.

 

[uk_dave]

8. File cabinet with folder dividers survive

jeeez I thought it was supposed to be suspicious that nothing larger than a telephone keypad had survived...now they go and spoil it with talk of filing cabinets..... it's all too confusing...I need to lay down.

 

[Cuddles]

jeeez I thought it was supposed to be suspicious that nothing larger than a telephone keypad had survived...now they go and spoil it with talk of filing cabinets..... it's all too confusing...I need to lay down.

It was a very small filing cabinet. Or possibly a very big telephone. You never know with the NWO.

 

[Pardalis]

And what about the people who survived in the towers as they fell? Were they immune to these "high energy beams"?

 

[Kent1]

I think truthseeker1234 may of hit the concrete core levels of insanity.
One second they tell us nothing survived, no furniture, no carpet etc... now when they find this stuff they say ...no wait this PROVES the conspiracy.
Truthseeker, make up your mind.

 

[Bell]

TS1234, you should get on a date with Christophera Monk.

 

[Bronze Dog]

jeeez I thought it was supposed to be suspicious that nothing larger than a telephone keypad had survived...now they go and spoil it with talk of filing cabinets..... it's all too confusing...I need to lay down.

So, TroofSeeker, how exactly does your R-9 Wave Cannon hypothesis explain the surviving files? If it was powerful enough to vaporize steel, the heat must have been far, far, more than enough to burn paper. Paper burns at 451 degrees, from what I've heard.

What temperature does steel vaporize at?

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

So, TroofSeeker, how exactly does your R-9 Wave Cannon hypothesis explain the surviving files? If it was powerful enough to vaporize steel, the heat must have been far, far, more than enough to burn paper. Paper burns at 451 degrees, from what I've heard.

What temperature does steel vaporize at?

Excellent science question, Bronze Dog. Why do we have all this melting steel, yet paper sits around unburned? Experiment: Put various objects in your microvave oven. Metal gets very hot. Food cooks from the indide out. Paper doesn't. Hmmmmmm.

There was only one file cabinet found, out of two twin towers.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

I think truthseeker1234 may of hit the concrete core levels of insanity.
One second they tell us nothing survived, no furniture, no carpet etc... now when they find this stuff they say ...no wait this PROVES the conspiracy.
Truthseeker, make up your mind.

Perhaps you should get busy with your debunking site and explain these observations. I haven't seen any explainations that satisfy my curiosity.

 

[Bell]

There was only one file cabinet found, out of two twin towers.

Imagine if you had to file something, but that cabinet was in the other tower

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Perhaps you should get busy with your debunking site and explain these observations. I haven't seen any explainations that satisfy my curiosity.

Your personal shortcomings aren't Kent1's problem to fix.

 

[Minadin]

Well, the boiling point for liquid iron is 2861 C, or about 5,200 F . . . I'm not sure how that translates to steel specifically, but I'm willing to bet that it is close, since the carbides that are in the steel with the iron usually have higher boiling points than the iron itself.

I'm not sure if boiling counts as vaporization, though . . . .

 

[Belz...]

I believe you'll find that Godzilla destroyed that vessel in 1984 (1985 on our side of the Pacific).

Points for Godzilla fandom, Mack.

 

[Belz...]

Gravy, it is beyond the pale to kill innocent kittens in protest against those with whom you have a scientific disagreement.

Scientific ?

What does that word have to do with you ?