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Spontaneous self-combustion

Oh I think you might have a few if we were in the neighbourhood.
Of course we would want a complete live action replay (on video) of the story.
(Including the shirt ripping off bit of course. Purely in the cause of science.)
The soup sounds tasty, too.

On topic- Imaginaldisc's peroxide theory is very interesting, though the concentrations you describe seem too low to be dangerous. I wonder if you could somehow have accidentally concentrated a solution- perhaps by leaving a bottle open for a while? I think more experiments may be called for. In the yard.

Merry (and non combustible) Christmas to everyone.
 
Kids, don't try this at home.

Gayle, fellow posters,

Merry Walrus. That our of the way, I've spent a couple of days looking into the volatility of peroxide, and I think this is the most promising lead.

Let's start with a brief summary of hydrogen peroxide.
Consumer grade products containing peroxides are generally 12% peroxide or less by volume. Those little brown bottles of peroxide in the drug stores are roughly 3 to 8 percent hydrogen peroxide by volume. Peroxides in these low cencentrations have been used in the 1880's, and are relatively harmless. Even the EPA thinks so.

http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsheet_000595.htm

IV. ASSESSING RISKS TO THE ENVIRONMENT

If users follow label directions, no risks to the environment are expected from use of pesticide products containing hydrogen peroxide because 1) the substance readily decomposes to water and oxygen gas, leaving no residue; 2) it is effective at low concentrations where no toxic effects are expected. Label instructions tell users not to spray where bees are active.

Hydrogen peroxide in realtively low concentrations is being used an a disinfectant, and pesticide. Hydrogen peroxide bubbles and fizzes, decomposing into oxygen and water when it come into contant with anything it can oxidize, or when it contacts a suitable catlyst.

http://www.h2o2.com/h2o2update/pgarticles/tinybubbles.html

A more detailed explanation of why it foams on an abrasion is because blood contains iron (heme) and cells produce an enzyme called catalase. Catalase is found in nearly all cells and organs and acts as a catalyst in the decomposition of hydrogen peroxide. Since a cut contains both blood and of course damaged cells, there is quite a lot of catalase present. When the H2O2 comes into contact with the catalase, it turns the peroxide into water (H2O) and oxygen gas (O2). Catalase breaks down the hydrogen peroxide extremely efficiently - up to 200,000 reactions/second. To see this reaction firsthand, I wouldn't recommend stabbing yourself, but you could pour some H2O2 onto a cut piece of potato to achieve the same results. The damaged potato cells contain catalase and will react with the peroxide in the same way.

It may appear that hydrogen peroxide is not bubbling in the bottle, but actually the same reaction occurs only much slower. Without a catalyst, like catalase, hydrogen peroxide decomposes at a rate of about 1% each year. So pay attention to that expiration date, it may be time to buy some more

That's right. Hydrogen peroxide in solution, without a catalyst or reducing agent is fairly stable. Even in a spill, or absorbed in a cloth, the concentrations of hydrogen peroxide has a half life of 10-20 hours. Since hydrogen peroxide has a boiling point of 141 degrees C, and water has a boiling point of 100 degrees C, a spilled solution of water and hydrogen peroxide will preferentially evaporate water, leading to an increase in the concentration of hydrogen peroxide.

It's very tough for a consumer to buy hudrogen peroxide in higher concentrations that 8%. However, hair bleaching products can be sold to consumers in the U.S. as "volume 40", which is 12% hydrogen peroxide. Hair salons have acess to volume 50, which is 16% hydrogen peroxide. Higher concentrations than that are strictly for inudustrial uses, or for amatuer rocketry.

http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html

Note to household users: Concentrations > 8% H2O2 (by weight) are classified Oxidizers and are not recommended for household use (see Safety and Handling Guidelines). You should seek out a regional source for this dilute solution, or consider a safe, non-hazardous alternative...

Now, there's a long list of the substances hydrogen peroxide will react with, or by catalized by.

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/hydrogenperoxide/recognition.html

* Reactivity

1. Conditions contributing to instability: Exposure to radiant heat (sunlight), sources of ignition, such as, heat or open flame; and physical or mechanical disturbances can create a potential fire or explosion hazard.

2. Incompatibilities: Contact between hydrogen peroxide and combustible materials such as, wood, paper, oil, etc., may cause immediate spontaneous ignition or combustion. Mixed with organic materials such as alcohols, acetone, and other ketones; aldehydes, and their anhydrides; and glycerol can cause violent explosions. Spontaneous ignition may occur when hydrogen peroxide is added to cotton (cellulose). Contact with metals including iron, copper, chromium, lead, silver, manganese, sodium, potassium, magnesium, nickel, gold, platinum; metal alloys such as, brass or bronze; metal oxides such as lead oxides, mercury oxides, or manganese dioxide; and many metal salts, like potassium permanganate or sodium iodate could result in violent explosions. Tremendous explosions can also be caused by unstable mixtures with concentrated mineral acids.

Emphasis mine.

Now, it's known to science that high conenctrations of hydrogen perxoide will cause fires when in contact with cotton, such as Gayle's cotton shirt for example. And it is known to science that spilled sollutions of hydrogen peroxide will increase in concentration as evoporation occurs. UV light is also a known catalyst for hyrgoen peroxide explosions. The only question left before we can decide if this is a possible cause of the Gayle's burning shirt phenomenon is whether volume 50 hair bleach can be used to receate this fire. In other words, we're going to have to experiment, and make a big boom.

Thoughts everyone?

P.S. I dug up a lot more regarding hydrogen peroxide, but it's not directly pertinent.
 
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Merry Walrus to you, too! And excellent work!

Mixed with organic materials such as alcohols, acetone, and other ketones; aldehydes, and their anhydrides; and glycerol can cause violent explosions...

Some questions and glycerol. Most of the lotions and potions I use contain glycerin or glyceryl or glycol. It's sometimes spelled glycerine on the labels. Isn't glycerol another term for glycerine?

Women's cosmetics often contain glycerine because it holds moisture. "Oil-free" cosmetics are various glycerine concoctions. But it's far more common to mix oils and glycerine together. The oil/glycerine mix creates an effective product that is inexpensive to buy.

The body lotions I have handy right now contain glycerin, soy oil, sesame oil, lanolin, mineral oil, and almond oil. More from the lists of ingredients on the labels ... Cetyl Alcohol ...Polypyleneglycol ... Cetearyl Alcohol.

Glycerine, oils, alcohols, and peroxide could have all come into contact with that cotton shirt. I would have been very careful to make sure that 40 or 50 volume peroxide did not touch the fabric or any other articles of clothing. It would bleach out the color.

However, I would not have thought twice about 3% peroxide spilling on the shirt. It would not bleach or stain the fabric. It would have the same damaging effect on cotton as spilling plain water. None.

I also have two products right here next to my computer that may or may not have been around at the time -- fingernail polish remover and Absorbine Jr. A significant ingredient in both -- acetone.

This seems an extremely promising area to investigate. The way I burned ... an explosion is the best way to describe it. It was that fast.


Gayle
 
I'll look into the glycerine. It wasn't the 3% stuff that I was concerned about, but the hair bleaching products, which are as high as 16%.
 
I've heard of this. I don't know much about it, but from what I can tell it's not exactly "spontaneous." Drink a lot of moonshine and wash it down by smoking a pack of cigarettes, then see what happens...

Smoke?

Just put the match to your lips as if to blow it out and you'll be well on your way.
 

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