Splitsville?: North Carolina and Indiana Primaries

[IchabodPlain]

And the totals so far:


Indiana

Clinton: 57%
Obama: 43%

North Carolina

Obama: 65%
Clinton: 35%

So is this thing going to Colorado or what?

 

[Brainster]

Looks like both of them got the big win they needed to stay alive, but obviously that's still advantage Obama at this point. North Carolina will tighten, certainly, but CNN's already projected it as a win for Barack.

 

[Shadowdweller]

It should be noted that your numbers aren't actually an even split (and yes, I realize you didn't claim they were). Assuming your figures were final AND accurate:

Indiana
Clinton: 57%
Obama: 43%

Clinton: .57 (72 delegates) = 41
Obama: .43 (72 delegates) = 31

North Carolina[/URL]
Obama: 65%
Clinton: 35%

Obama: .65 (115 delegates) = 75
Clinton: .35 (115 delegates) = 40

Net gains: Obama - 106, Clinton - 81

So Obama would come out ahead. However, even if either candidate had won ALL those at stake (187), the magic majority number could not have been reached.

 

[BenBurch]

This is a Humiliation for HRC.

She had to do MUCH better in both states today.

Were I her, I would start worrying about keeping my Senate seat.

 

[David Wong]

She won't win Indiana by 14. It'll be single digits.

Obviously he's not going to win NC by 30, it'll tighten to 12 or so.

Why are they so slow to call Indiana for Hillary? Still haven't, with 60% reporting.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Next up.

Racist White Democrats in Kentucky (Whitest State in the union)

Racist White Democrats in West Virginia (Senator former KKK leader)



Does not look good for the racist Black candidate.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

She won't win Indiana by 14. It'll be single digits.

Obviously he's not going to win NC by 30, it'll tighten to 12 or so.

Why are they so slow to call Indiana for Hillary? Still haven't, with 60% reporting.

They called NC for Obama the moment the polls closed.

 

[David Wong]

I'd like to point out that every forum should have an ignore function.

 

[BenBurch]

... (Senator former KKK leader) ...

Overstate much?

 

[BenBurch]

CBS called for Hillary in IN. Right now its looking like HRC by 7% there.

 

[David Wong]

CBS called for Hillary in IN. Right now its looking like HRC by 7% there.

Polling had her up by 5-6% so that would be right in line with expectations.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Overstate much?

Nope.

Robert Byrd

In 1942, 24-year-old Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), whose parades in Matoaka, West Virginia, he had witnessed in his childhood. He was unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops, or leader, of his local chapter.

ETA: The racist White Democrats that vote Byrd into office again and again are not going to vote for a racist Black candidate.

 

[BenBurch]

Jerome, damn. I was told something else long ago.

Right now Obama up 27 on the day delegates all told.

 

[Brainster]

One pretty obvious problem for Obama in the exit poll numbers from North Carolina: Once again, he gets about 36% of the white vote. In fact, he's actually doing better among white voters in Indiana; according to the polling there, he's getting about 40% of the white vote. These are exit polls, of course, and have not yet been properly weighted, but if those numbers hold up it shows an underlying weakness for Obama.

 

[David Wong]

Jerome, damn. I was told something else long ago.

Right now Obama up 27 on the day delegates all told.

I think you're assuming a 20+ point win in NC and I don't think it'll stay that wide. It'll probably narrow as the counts came in, same as IN did.

 

[BenBurch]

White people are not as much of a majority as they formerly were. I think its almost insignificant.

 

[David Wong]

One pretty obvious problem for Obama in the exit poll numbers from North Carolina: Once again, he gets about 36% of the white vote. In fact, he's actually doing better among white voters in Indiana; according to the polling there, he's getting about 40% of the white vote. These are exit polls, of course, and have not yet been properly weighted, but if those numbers hold up it shows an underlying weakness for Obama.

Right but that's partly because he's losing so many of the white women to Hillary. One way or the other the dynamics change when it's McCain as the opponent.

Not saying he'll win, just that it's hard to project a weakness against a Democrat woman candidate to a Republican white male. It's a different game.

 

[BenBurch]

I think you're assuming a 20+ point win in NC and I don't think it'll stay that wide. It'll probably narrow as the counts came in, same as IN did.

Yes, I computed based on current numbers.

No doubt you are right.

 

[David Wong]

Man CNN is STILL refusing to call Indiana.

And the counts have it 52-48 now.

Did CBS jump the gun?

 

[TexasJack]

I think you're assuming a 20+ point win in NC and I don't think it'll stay that wide. It'll probably narrow as the counts came in, same as IN did.

Yes, but I believe he's going to pick up a significant amount of super delegates in the next day or so, making it a very profitable day delegate-wise for Obama.