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Spicer OUT ...

ponderingturtle said:
dudalb said:
Who goes next: Rence or Sessions? Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen,place your bets....
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Bannon?
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If anyone has Everest sized mountains of serious dirt on Trump it is probably Bannon.

And if anyone would have a clear will to use all of it if he felt like he had been crossed it would be Bannon.

I suspect he's not going anywhere until he chooses to. Completely on his own terms.
 
Babbylonian said:
From what I've read so far, Scaramucci is entirely without qualifications for the position, but I guess this White House can't have enough money shufflers on staff.

It's possible that the entire reason this administration exists is to provide CV enhancement for family and friends.
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The way this administration is going they are liable to find themselves wishing they could have any involvement with it expunged from their work history.
 
TheL8Elvis said:
I may be making this up, but I didn't think you could make federal employees sign an NDA ?
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Only for restricted type information like classified or law enforcement data, information covered in the Privacy Act or Health Information or proprietary contract information from a vendor. There wouldn't be a point for an NDA on anything else since it would be releasable under the Freedom of Information Act.
 
Bob001 said:
Quite a number of people apparently were counting down the days after Trump kept Spicer, a devout Catholic, out of the group that met the Pope during Trump's European trip. He was upset and hurt, and everyone around him read it as a slap in the face.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sean-spicer-trump-meeting-pope-francis-snub-2017-5
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I gotta say, I am no fan of this administration, nor Spicer, and I am an atheist. But preventing him from meeting the Pope was just a dick move by the idiot in charge. I felt bad for Spicer.
 
CapelDodger said:
I don't imagine Sessions will resign : he's on a personal mission against the Demon Weed and will hang in there.
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He's in hot water right now with yesterday's WaPo story exposing that he perjured himself testifying before congress for the position. Getting out of the spotlight would do him so good and Trump appears to be getting into a pardoning mood.
 
Stacko said:
He's in hot water right now with yesterday's WaPo story exposing that he perjured himself testifying before congress for the position. Getting out of the spotlight would do him so good and Trump appears to be getting into a pardoning mood.
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Everything will be fine once he again revises his Senate testimony. I'm pretty sure you get a 12-month grace period if you're a former Senator and if your party is in control of the Senate.
 
Could he pardon all incarcerated people at once? He's more than crazy enough to do it as another distraction from something he's suspected of.
 
alfaniner said:
Could he pardon all incarcerated people at once? He's more than crazy enough to do it as another distraction from something he's suspected of.
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Theoretically, yeah, the President could pardon all federal prisoners, but just processing the paperwork (requiring signatures for each criminal) would take long enough that Congress could impeach before it got too far along.
 
For people like Spicer, who only "did they their job" and "only followed orders", there's no shortage of both pity and contempt. He had the ability to publicly rebuke the President of the US for making him say outrageous lies on par with Lord Haw-Haw or Baghdad Bob. Instead he did nothing about it.

Spicer wasn’t born a liar. In an oddly predictive utterance, he volunteered in January as he boarded the Trump White House that he never lied because, among other things, lying destroyed credibility and rendered a spokesman useless. If he was being honest about not being a liar, his streak ended with that first press briefing, in which he took no questions and made his ridiculous claims about the inauguration crowd size. Those claims, which we can assume were forced on him by the president, set him on a trajectory he never reversed. As Vanity Fair’s James Wolcott recently noted, Trump practiced the “time-honored art of blame shifting” to destroy his factotum Spicer, raging at him for lies originating with the president. And he lied so, so willingly. Early in the administration, presidential counselor Kellyanne Conway tossed Spicer a life-buoy that he used to tread the waters of the White House’s above-ground pool for six months. She said Spicer’s many inauguration falsehoods were not lies but “alternative facts,” and with that template in mind he treated the truth like Play-Doh whenever it suited him. The popularity of Spicer’s televised briefings, which Trump took credit for, had less to do with his skill as a faithful communicator of the president’s policies than it did the audience’s curiosity about which planet of lies Spaceman Spicer would escort them to next.
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/21/should-you-feel-sorry-for-sean-spicer-215406

By allowing himself to become a vessel for Trump's near endless lies and half truths he's utterly debased himself and his name.
 
Arcade22 said:
For people like Spicer, who only "did they their job" and "only followed orders", there's no shortage of both pity and contempt. He had the ability to publicly rebuke the President of the US for making him say outrageous lies on par with Lord Haw-Haw or Baghdad Bob. Instead he did nothing about it.



http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/21/should-you-feel-sorry-for-sean-spicer-215406

By allowing himself to become a vessel for Trump's near endless lies and half truths he's utterly debased himself and his name.
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This is why the first rule for dealing with a narcissist is: DON'T, unless you absolutely have to.
 
WilliamSeger said:
This is why the first rule for dealing with a narcissist is: DON'T, unless you absolutely have to.
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Yes, and it's inevitable that when something doesn't go as well as the narcissist had wished, that they'll be looking for someone to blame - because it obviously mustn't be their fault.

Trump is going to continue to burn people who associate with him. I think that this is in addition to what I think your point is, which is that people who associate with him will have to compromise themselves to work for him.

That is why I am expecting a sudden rush to stick the knife in once the pressure gets sufficient and someone significant decides to take action. Trump provokes and belittles his allies so enough of them would like to get their repayment. I hope he's going to learn that collective groups of people can also hold grudges.
 
Varanid said:
I gotta say, I am no fan of this administration, nor Spicer, and I am an atheist. But preventing him from meeting the Pope was just a dick move by the idiot ******* in charge. I felt bad for Spicer.
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FTFY


Though it is also an idiot!!!!!!!
 
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jimbob said:
Yes, and it's inevitable that when something doesn't go as well as the narcissist had wished, that they'll be looking for someone to blame - because it obviously mustn't be their fault.

Trump is going to continue to burn people who associate with him. I think that this is in addition to what I think your point is, which is that people who associate with him will have to compromise themselves to work for him.

That is why I am expecting a sudden rush to stick the knife in once the pressure gets sufficient and someone significant decides to take action. Trump provokes and belittles his allies so enough of them would like to get their repayment. I hope he's going to learn that collective groups of people can also hold grudges.
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Exactly! Bullies who create obedience in others through threats, browbeating, and intimidation, or even by bribery, often think that they now have a cadre of loyal followers. But as soon as the bully begins to stumble the resentment, and the "knives" will come out. Trump has insulted and threatened probably 4/5s of the people in Congress, in the courts, in the State Department, in the intelligence agencies, etc. His fall will be very rapid when it does occur.
 
Giordano said:
Exactly! Bullies who create obedience in others through threats, browbeating, and intimidation, or even by bribery, often think that they now have a cadre of loyal followers. But as soon as the bully begins to stumble the resentment, and the "knives" will come out. Trump has insulted and threatened probably 4/5s of the people in Congress, in the courts, in the State Department, in the intelligence agencies, etc. His fall will be very rapid when it does occur.
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But not Flynn - which is interesting in itself, given that Flynn *was* responsible for the embarrassment that he caused.

Also Trump's behaviour around Putin is interesting.
 
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