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Somali pirates kill all 4 hostages

WildCat said:
Exactly. If you just pay them per severed hand they could cheat, so you have to specify left or right hand. And you could probably get 2 or 3 scalps off a single head so that's a no-go, and heads themselves are too big and clunky.

Maybe a nose could be considered proof the pirate was permanently dispatched?




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Ears. One PAIR of ears claims one bounty.

Quite honestly, the deceased missionaries were STUPID. I have no idea what they were thinking. It's like those idiot hikers who "strayed" into Iran. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FRIGGIN' MIND GOES HIKING ALONG THE IRAQ/IRAN BORDER FOR VACATION?

And why does the United States have to bail them out? I've done lots of stupid things in my life, but I learned from them and never did the same stupid thing more than once. And along the way, I've learned to recognize the incipient stupidity in certain situations and avoid them. But I've always had to get myself out of the situations I've gotten myself into. Frankly, I'd be embarrassed if the government had to intervene on my behalf. I'd certainly make a public apology for creating a situation where they had to, and I certainly wouldn't act like a hero or martyr when I got back (IF I got back at all).

Beanbag
 
Quad4_72 said:
Damn. So I guess basically the same kind of situation that is experienced in certain states here in America. The laws ensure that it is quite difficult for law abiding citizens to carry weapons, and the laws do nothing to deter criminal activity, because the criminals do not care about the laws.
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So are you against any and all gun control laws? For example background checks for mental illness and criminal history? This is something then that every visitor to a port would need to have extensive background checks.
 
And now a Danish family's sailboat has been taken by pirates:
Pirates have hijacked a Danish sailboat with four adults and three children aboard as they were crossing the Indian Ocean, Denmark's government said Monday.

Most hostages captured in the pirate-infested waters off East Africa are professional sailors, not families. Pirates are not known to have captured children before.

The Danish Foreign Ministry said the ship sent a distress signal on Thursday. On board was a Danish couple, their three children — aged 12-16 — and two adult crew members, also Danes. "It has now been confirmed that the sailboat was hijacked by pirates in the Indian Ocean," the ministry said in a statement.
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This isn't just about shipping companies any more. Piracy has never been stopped by paying them off, they really need to be killed.
 
WildCat said:
And now a Danish family's sailboat has been taken by pirates:
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That is truly awful. I see from other news stories that they were sailing around the world, but after what's been going on I would never risk taking children into those waters.

Let's hope this ends well.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Would the customs problems of bringing firearms be alleviated if the passengers and crew were unarmed, but the vessel itself was armed? I'm thinking along the lines of installing a cannon, or mounted gun turrets, something that would be permanently attached to the vessel and thus clearly not for use in being smuggled to terrorists or cartels or for resale or whatever the customs concern is.
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You have the best ideas!

For the record, I would not mind if you ruled the world.
 
Now they're saying that the Danish family was sailing to Somalia?!

WTF??????
 
WildCat said:
Now they're saying that the Danish family was sailing to Somalia?!

WTF??????
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Were they originally heading there, or is that where the pirates are now taking them?

I think it's the latter, but news reports aren't really clear...
 
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ponderingturtle said:
So are you against any and all gun control laws? For example background checks for mental illness and criminal history? This is something then that every visitor to a port would need to have extensive background checks.
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I am not against any and all gun control. But there doesn't need to be so much that it makes it impossible to defend yourself.
 
ponderingturtle said:
So are you against any and all gun control laws? For example background checks for mental illness and criminal history? This is something then that every visitor to a port would need to have extensive background checks.
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That is a radical re-interpretation of the original post (surely for a pre-conceived agenda). The argument against onerous anti-gun laws is in no way an argument against *any* gun control laws. As for "every visitor to a port would need to have extensive background checks," I have basic college chemistry... I could build a destructive device out of a number of individually benign components, as could any-one with basic college chemistry. Are you going to regulate everyone with an education? I think that the point of the post that you miss is that law-abiding citizens may have the knowledge and know-how to commit heinous crimes, but don't. They obey laws. Criminals don't care about laws and will circumvent them at will. Do you really think that the Somali pirates are concerned that it is, "not right" to kidnap people for ransom? If so you are demonstrably wrong.
 
Quad4_72 said:
I am not against any and all gun control. But there doesn't need to be so much that it makes it impossible to defend yourself.
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...And a Barrett 0.50 rifle makes such a nice addition to a 33-foot sloop...
 
Finn McR said:
That is a radical re-interpretation of the original post (surely for a pre-conceived agenda). The argument against onerous anti-gun laws is in no way an argument against *any* gun control laws. As for "every visitor to a port would need to have extensive background checks," I have basic college chemistry... I could build a destructive device out of a number of individually benign components, as could any-one with basic college chemistry. Are you going to regulate everyone with an education? I think that the point of the post that you miss is that law-abiding citizens may have the knowledge and know-how to commit heinous crimes, but don't. They obey laws. Criminals don't care about laws and will circumvent them at will. Do you really think that the Somali pirates are concerned that it is, "not right" to kidnap people for ransom? If so you are demonstrably wrong.
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This is a common tactic used by gun control nutters. They like to exaggerate things to further their agenda. Of course I don't want guns to be sold to criminals, and I never said or even suggested that I don't believe in ANY gun control. But of course they like to suggest such things.
 
...as the thread quickly falls off the well-worn gun control cliff :rolleyes:
 
Finn McR said:
That is a radical re-interpretation of the original post (surely for a pre-conceived agenda). The argument against onerous anti-gun laws is in no way an argument against *any* gun control laws. As for "every visitor to a port would need to have extensive background checks," I have basic college chemistry... I could build a destructive device out of a number of individually benign components, as could any-one with basic college chemistry. Are you going to regulate everyone with an education? I think that the point of the post that you miss is that law-abiding citizens may have the knowledge and know-how to commit heinous crimes, but don't. They obey laws. Criminals don't care about laws and will circumvent them at will. Do you really think that the Somali pirates are concerned that it is, "not right" to kidnap people for ransom? If so you are demonstrably wrong.
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Actually, decent high school chemistry and very careful use of info on the internet (there are texts from the late 1800s on with very good info in them - just have to be very careful;!!)
 
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