So Will 2012 Be Just Another Year?

[Bram Kaandorp]

I almost forgot that many of those people are also under the illusion that December 21st 2012 will be the beginning of "the age of Aquarius".

Sure, it will actually not start for at least 500 years, but, as they say, "We are the initial period now, leading up to the true enlightenment." (paraphrasing of course).

Which caused me to ask, "If we are already in the initial period, then why is the 21st of December so important?"

Answers (if you can call them that) are too full of woo to even begin to repeat.

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[I Ratant]

Well, I for one plan to celebrate the end of the 13'th baktun by partying like it's thirteen ninety nine, so it's a fair prophecy that I'll see the world with different eyes. I think the standard phrase is "beer goggles"

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Your extensive explanation of this above, should be copied and posted by everyone here to all their correspondents that will be sending the Mayan Calendar around.
I have my copy ready.

 

[I Ratant]

I almost forgot that many of those people are also under the illusion that December 21st 2012 will be the beginning of "the age of Aquarius".

Sure, it will actually not start for at least 500 years, but, as they say, "We are the initial period now, leading up to the true enlightenment." (paraphrasing of course).

Which caused me to ask, "If we are already in the initial period, then why is the 21st of December so important?"

Answers (if you can call them that) are too full of woo to even begin to repeat.

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I used ta thunk it started in 1964!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Aquarius.ogg

 

[Aoidoi]

Uh???? Does this mean I don't have to live in a hole in the dirt anymore?

That depends. Is it underwater?

 

[CORed]

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The monsters under the bed... they're real!
Do not step on a crack. What'd Mom ever do to you?
Girls do have cooties!
March, Ides of. BEWARE!
Walk on left facing traffic.

This one should be changed to "right" for UK Australia, Japan, and other benighted lands where everybody drives on the wrong side of the road.

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Cross on green. And you don't have to hold the button in to get the walk signal. Push firmly once.
Beer is more filling! Even NA beer.
It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission.
The "Golden Years" are filled with joint aches, eye problems, and the expanding universe.. every year on the 10-speed, the miles have gotten longer and the hills steeper than last year!

 

[I Ratant]

Had a situation here over the weekend where a girl, at 01:00 or so, walking on the freeway shoulder... not supposed to do that at all!!.. stepped off the shoulder into the traffic lane.. and got smeared along the lane.
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Early in the day I'd seen a girl walking along the shoulder. I do believe she knew what she was doing.
Had a guy try to do the "Hancock" thing with the Metro-link train. That went poorly for him also.

 

[Darth Rotor]

it's millennialism done wrong.

aye.

Their first attempt at a calendar was the Tzolkin,

Written and decreed by Pope JRR Tzolkin, as I understand it.

You'd think a 260 day year would be obviously stupid, but it was actually in use for a loong time.

They lived in the tropics, eh? What seasons would they have noticed?

Then came the Long Count calendar, which is actually the one used in the 2012 prophecy. It still was a piss-poor calendar, but slightly less so than Tzolkin.

Sorta like Terry Goodkind.

And yes, for the record, I shall assert that the Egyptians built better pyramids than the Mayans.

Just sayin'

For us a millennium is 10x10x10 years, for them a "piktun" was, you guessed, 20x20x20 Long Count years.

While a Putin was, you guessed it, a meglomaniac.

Which brings us to 2012, when the 13'th baktun ends.

All good things come to an end, and a few bad things as well. (Disco, for example ...)

I dunno what was supposed to happen trillion years into the future

It don't matter, sun will have burned out, and burned us, long since.

The actual piktun (millennium) doesn't end for another couple thousand years.

And the actual Putin is still in charge of Russia, no matter how stupidly wrong Medvedev fans choose to be ...

Some folks postulated that, basically, because 13 was such a lucky number

But not for the Templars ...

The 13'th baktun (Mayan base-20 century) ends, the 14'th baktun starts. Sounds like a good reason to party

We have an accord. Cheers.

For the record, the Mayans then figured out the Haab calendar,

But it was left to the Swedes to figure out the Saab 9000. Go figure.

Now instead of telling you a date consisting of year, month and day, they'd only tell you the month and day in the Tzolkin and Haab calendars.

That's a weird way to refer to Shire Reckoning. (Tolkein and Hobbit calendars, for the LOTR impaired ... )

Yeah, online dating must have sucked for the Mayans

Without an internet, it boiled down to regular dating, which can also suck.

Well, London hosting the Olympics will be quite catastrophic I am betting.

OK. Not betting against.

Maybe US presidential elections.

That's more of a cock-up than a disaster.

Put your mind at ease, that's not a disaster at all

No, it's a catastrophe.

Rather like the end of 1999.

So we gonna party, eh? I'd like to figure out a way to end up at your party, since you seem to have the sort of attitude that makes for a good party.

No. It'll be a leap year.

Wins thread. Well done, sir.

DR thanks all who have contributed, this has been most educational.

Hans, thank you in particular for the time and effort, most enjoyable.

DR

 

[Nosi]

will be "so over all that stupid 2012 stuff."

Until some 'netkook pops up with the next crazy!

 

[Kid Eager]

In 2012 there will be more repeats on TV.

 

[LarianLeQuella]

That's more of a cock-up than a disaster.

I suppose that depends on what the results are.

 

[Psi Baba]

One real effect that doomsday scenarios do have is that they tend make people (believers, especially) conveniently forget about all the other doomsday scenarios (which, needless to say, never happened). These are coming along with such regularity now, that they're almost like a holiday. It's surprising that retailers and holiday merchandise manufacturers haven't gotten into the act. There's an entire untapped market here. I mean, come on! I want doomsday lights, decorations, greeting cards, songs, desert recipes, advent calendars, and all that fun stuff.

 

[Bram Kaandorp]

One real effect that doomsday scenarios do have is that they tend make people (believers, especially) conveniently forget about all the other doomsday scenarios (which, needless to say, never happened). These are coming along with such regularity now, that they're almost like a holiday. It's surprising that retailers and holiday merchandise manufacturers haven't gotten into the act. There's an entire untapped market here. I mean, come on! I want doomsday lights, decorations, greeting cards, songs, desert recipes, advent calendars, and all that fun stuff.

I want my End Of The World French Fries!

 

[Craig4]

I almost forgot that many of those people are also under the illusion that December 21st 2012 will be the beginning of "the age of Aquarius".

Sure, it will actually not start for at least 500 years, but, as they say, "We are the initial period now, leading up to the true enlightenment." (paraphrasing of course).

Which caused me to ask, "If we are already in the initial period, then why is the 21st of December so important?"

Answers (if you can call them that) are too full of woo to even begin to repeat.

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I've seen the musical "Hair". There won't be naked dancing hippies will there?

 

[SOdhner]

This is a stupid question. As we all know (I'm sure there have been several threads about it in this subforum already) Jesus is coming back in a month, and then the world will end in October. There won't be any 2012.

 

[Bram Kaandorp]

This is a stupid question. As we all know (I'm sure there have been several threads about it in this subforum already) Jesus is coming back in a month, and then the world will end in October. There won't be any 2012.

You heard it, people. Pack up your stuff, we're going away ( or was it that we stayed here? I get confused really fast with these subjects).

If the "chosen people" leave, can I have the nice clothes they leave behind?

Cheers

 

[SOdhner]

You heard it, people. Pack up your stuff, we're going away ( or was it that we stayed here? I get confused really fast with these subjects).

Well, I'm counting on being left behind. We're throwing a "Bon Voyage, Fundies" party to celebrate. I suppose we'll have a similar one for this 2012 business.

 

[Bram Kaandorp]

Well, I'm counting on being left behind. We're throwing a "Bon Voyage, Fundies" party to celebrate. I suppose we'll have a similar one for this 2012 business.

I can already hear most of those New Age people nagging:

"You haven't changed, because you weren't open to what was coming"

How terrible that I actually know what they will say. For a group of people who try to "break free from categories", they are very easily categorised. And amazing how predictable they are.

Cheers

 

[Mark6]

Well, I for one plan to celebrate the end of the 13'th baktun by partying like it's thirteen ninety nine, so it's a fair prophecy that I'll see the world with different eyes. I think the standard phrase is "beer goggles"

Do you have any idea what beer was like in 1399?

 

[HansMustermann]

A lot more diverse than after the German Purity Law of 1516. They used just about any flavouring or fermentable stuff you can imagine, including stuff like cherries. Or all sorts of natural preservatives instead of hops. And occasionally stuff like amanita mushrooms for that extra kick in the head

 

[epix]

Will 2012 come and go like any other year or will something either catastropic
or (did I spell that wrong?) incredible beyond belief happen? What do you think and why? I assume 99% of you will say nothing will occur. The most tame theory I've heard yet was by Shirley MacClaine: "it will be a year of New Beginnings." Which I suppose means it'll have lots of new endings which is sort of alarming.

The 2012 hoopla is an illegitimate child of Jose Arguelles, Ph.D. who passed away the last month to cancel the expected coincidence regarding his passage the next year.

The largest known catastrophe called the KT-event is theorized to contribute to the emergence of mammals on this planet. An asteroid or a comet hit the earth some fifty million years ago in the region what is now the Yucatan peninsula, which became home to Mesoamericans called the Mayans. When (Y/M/D) did the asteroid or the comet hit the earth according to the Gregorian calender? And that's what the 2012 activities meant to be all about.