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So Will 2012 Be Just Another Year?

epix said:
When (Y/M/D) did the asteroid or the comet hit the earth according to the Gregorian calender?
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At 50 million years ago (actually 65 million years ago, but that's not really important to my point), we can't get to the closest millennium, let alone Y/M/D.
 
Psi Baba said:
It's surprising that retailers and holiday merchandise manufacturers haven't gotten into the act.
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Umm...

I keep waiting to see a separate "2012" section in a bookstore (a real bookstore, that is -- not a new age book store, which I assume have had separate 2012 sections ever since nothing much happened in 2000). I'll bet anyone a donut that we'll start seeing them later this year.
 
Jon. said:
At 50 million years ago (actually 65 million years ago, but that's not really important to my point), we can't get to the closest millennium, let alone Y/M/D.
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It can be hypothetically done through some Mayan cycles, but there would be no scientific evidence supporting the time math. The time of the event 65 million years is subject to a great deal of variation, but it's not really contested, coz there is no reason to do so. At least we know that we can have something under a close scrutiny and miss a basic association such as the one I described. Even the fact that

1 alautun = 20 kinchiltun = 63,081,429 tropical years

would fail to relate the KT-event catastrophe to the Yucatan peninsula and the Mayans there via the "catastrophic" year 2012.
 
What bothers me is that there are some genuinely sensitive, caring, but not terribly well filtered people out there being scared scatless by this woo.
 
The 20th baktun ends on Oct 13th 4772, and guess what weekday that is!
So the world will end on a Friday 13th! That can't end well!!!
To bad that's too far in the future to sell doomsday books. Drats!
 
I worked with someone who truly believed 2000 would be the end of the world. A few months after he was found dead, apparently a suicide, with a cache of weapons in his apartment. I suppose the silver lining is that he only hurt himself. :(
 
I read about someone who was convinced the world would end at 7 AM on July 7, 1977 (his time zone, I assume). When that did not happen, he figured it must happen at 7 PM. When that also went by, he killed himself.
 
Aepervius said:
Warm and relatively of "random" quality, due to the Reinheitgebot being only made 117 years later.

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ETA: NONONO ! Beaten down by Hans :P
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When it comes to beer no one beats Hans.:alc:
 
epix said:
It can be hypothetically done through some Mayan cycles, but there would be no scientific evidence supporting the time math. The time of the event 65 million years is subject to a great deal of variation, but it's not really contested, coz there is no reason to do so. At least we know that we can have something under a close scrutiny and miss a basic association such as the one I described. Even the fact that

1 alautun = 20 kinchiltun = 63,081,429 tropical years

would fail to relate the KT-event catastrophe to the Yucatan peninsula and the Mayans there via the "catastrophic" year 2012.
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Well, I'll agree with you on the basic idea that I don't see the connection, but the good question though would be why would anyone even consider it be connected to 2012 at all. It's not like the calendar rolls over at alautun either.

In fact, as I've mentioned before, we have the following date on a monument 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0

That's got waay more positions than even alautun. In fact, 15 positions more. So we're in no real danger of rolling into the same date as any previous catastrophe, no matter when it was.

The Mayans did occasionally use "distance dates", which consist of a date and a difference to add to it, though that happens with Calendar Round dates, not with Long Count dates. The problem being that Calendar Round dates had no explicit year and a 52 year cycle, so the only way to pin an event in a given year was with such a distance date.

At any rate, there is no known distance date from or to 2012, which makes even that kind of connection rather unsupported. If we found a date somewhere that boils down to 1 alautun before 14.0.0.0.0, we might start seriously wondering, but otherwise it seems like a bit of a tenuous connection at best.
 
Mark6 said:
I read about someone who was convinced the world would end at 7 AM on July 7, 1977 (his time zone, I assume). When that did not happen, he figured it must happen at 7 PM. When that also went by, he killed himself.
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Well, for him it worked
 
2000 year old skeleton is goin' to mumbo man ?
Yeah riiight.
2012 is going to be about 365 days (and nights) long
 
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