So what form does the resistance take?

Emily's Cat said:
Have you ever bothered to consider exactly how much inflammatory rhetoric and extremist narrative framing you use?
Click to expand...
You should watch the video of Michael Fanone (Jan6 hero cop) telling Ivan Raiklin--a conspiracy theorist who threatened to rape and kill Fanone's kids--to "go ◊◊◊◊ yourself" I wonder if you would think he was being impolite?
Inflammatory Rhetoric
Emily's Cat said:
And who exactly has suggested that there NOT be an investigation into it?
Click to expand...
Case in point. You are offended by my referring to the killing of Renee Good as a 'blatant execution". How would you describe it? Let me guess..."an unfortunate tragedy" likely brought about by the foolishness of the victim, correct?
Don't take my word for it, there have been hundreds of legal experts who have accurately said that Ross would have a very hard time defending himself on murder charges. However, having tried self defense cases in front of a jury, I will without reservation go a step further and say there isn't a jury in this country, even one with you on it, that would acquit him. The video was extremely clear, as crime videos go.
So why did this administration *immediately* declare that there was no need for an investigation, case closed, officer has complete immunity,
and actively work to prevent an investigation by state authorities? Do you know what sort of government makes those sort of decisions and takes those sort of actions? If you can figure out the answer to that question, you might take a small step forward as to why there is no 'inflamatory' language strong enough to describe what is happening in this country right now.
 
Last edited:
Emily's Cat said:
What far right views do I hold? And can you support your assertions, or are you just making baseless assumptions of my views?
Click to expand...
I literally cited two examples in the post you quoted. I would add "an inability to read" as example #3, but I guess it's technically not a view, more of a commonplace right-wing foolishness.
 
I Am The Scum said:
I literally cited two examples in the post you quoted. I would add "an inability to read" as example #3, but I guess it's technically not a view, more of a commonplace right-wing foolishness.
Click to expand...
I suggest you not confuse inability with unwillingness, nor reading with comprehension. Some things can be taught, others not so much.
 
johnny karate said:
As a reminder to anyone who wants to claim this is performative: It was below zero today in Minneapolis.
Click to expand...
It only shows how radical these thousands of leftist woke terrorists have become. Not even the weather can stop them. National Guard is definitely needed there.

Tweet incoming from Trump in 3... 2... 1...
 
Minneapolis residents should continue to show up and participate in their neighborhood’s rapid response networks, pick up whistles and get trained on how to be legal observers, she said. For people outside the state, it helps to amplify what is actually happening on the ground and dismantle the federal narrative about Pretti and the city, and find ways to donate to organizations and people helping locally.

“The only thing that’s within our control as individuals right now is that we continue to show up, to resist, to be in the streets, to be in our neighborhoods, and continue calling for ICE to to leave our city, to leave our state,” she said. “I think our state and local officials are unified in wanting to see that outcome, and we have to keep pushing until we get our city back, our state back.”

Even if ICE leaves tomorrow – and the Trump administration has given no signs so far it will soon pull its forces out of the state – the impacts of this period in Minneapolis will be felt for much longer. Residents, including children, have been traumatized, witnessed deaths, violence and family separations. But that recovery can’t even begin until ICE leaves, Chughtai said.

But, Chughtai said, “I don’t think that we can even begin to rebuild or recover from this grief and trauma that we’ve been experiencing now for two months until these people leave our state.”
Click to expand...
www.theguardian.com

‘Our spirit can’t be broken’: Minneapolis city council member on resisting Trump’s immigration crackdown

Aisha Chughtai, who represents the district where Alex Pretti was fatally shot, speaks on the ‘despair’ caused by federal immigration enforcement
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
stanfr said:
You should watch the video of Michael Fanone (Jan6 hero cop) telling Ivan Raiklin--a conspiracy theorist who threatened to rape and kill Fanone's kids--to "go ◊◊◊◊ yourself" I wonder if you would think he was being impolite?
Click to expand...
If Ivan Raiklin posts here, I shall give them a good finger-wagging too.

Why do you think that "someone somewhere else was impolite" is a reasonable justification for you to be impolite to an entirely different group of people?
stanfr said:
Case in point. You are offended by my referring to the killing of Renee Good as a 'blatant execution". How would you describe it? Let me guess..."an unfortunate tragedy" likely brought about by the foolishness of the victim, correct?
Click to expand...
I would describe it as the inappropriate and unlawful killing of a non-criminal by a law enforcement officer, which should be subject to intense scrutiny and criminal charges against the officer once review is complete.

"Execution" implies something very different from what actually happened.
stanfr said:
Don't take my word for it, there have been hundreds of legal experts who have accurately said that Ross would have a very hard time defending himself on murder charges. However, having tried self defense cases in front of a jury, I will without reservation go a step further and say there isn't a jury in this country, even one with you on it, that would acquit him. The video was extremely clear, as crime videos go.
Click to expand...
I wouldn't acquit them, and I think second degree murder is an appropriate charge.
stanfr said:
So why did this administration *immediately* declare that there was no need for an investigation, case closed, officer has complete immunity,
and actively work to prevent an investigation by state authorities? Do you know what sort of government makes those sort of decisions and takes those sort of actions?
Click to expand...
The administration is a blustering blowhard who says all sorts of stupid things.
stanfr said:
If you can figure out the answer to that question, you might take a small step forward as to why there is no 'inflamatory' language strong enough to describe what is happening in this country right now.
Click to expand...
Again, just because someone somewhere else uses inflammatory language does not excuse you using inflammatory language here.
 
I Am The Scum said:
I literally cited two examples in the post you quoted. I would add "an inability to read" as example #3, but I guess it's technically not a view, more of a commonplace right-wing foolishness.
Click to expand...
No, you expressed opinions and baseless assertions.

Seriously, if all it takes to be permanently labeled "far right" is to not that the only people killed during Jan 6 were protesters, and that the property damage done was inconsequential and not really worth mentioning... then pretty much the wrong kind of sneeze will get people strung up for the next round of guillotining.

What far right policy views do you believe I hold, and can you support your assertions in any way whatsoever?
 
Emily's Cat said:
No, you expressed opinions and baseless assertions.

Seriously, if all it takes to be permanently labeled "far right" is to not that the only people killed during Jan 6 were protesters, and that the property damage done was inconsequential and not really worth mentioning... then pretty much the wrong kind of sneeze will get people strung up for the next round of guillotining.

What far right policy views do you believe I hold, and can you support your assertions in any way whatsoever?
Click to expand...

A reminder for everyone that this is what Emily's Cat actually said about January 6th, as opposed to how it's being dishonestly portrayed above:
Emily's Cat said:
Sure... one 'side' wandered through the Capitol and did no material property damage and caused no actual harm.
Click to expand...
 
It's working.

Morale is plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports

Morale is “plummeting” among federal law enforcement officers tasked with carrying out the Trump administration’s aggressive anti-immigration operation, as they complained that long hours, ambitious arrest quotas and hatred from the public, according to reports.

While officers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Patrol, overseen by the Department of Homeland Security, said they supported the administration’s goal of deporting undocumented migrants, many of them have grown “disillusioned” with the tactics being implemented by leadership.
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
Emily's Cat said:
No, you expressed opinions and baseless assertions.

Seriously, if all it takes to be permanently labeled "far right" is to not that the only people killed during Jan 6 were protesters, and that the property damage done was inconsequential and not really worth mentioning... then pretty much the wrong kind of sneeze will get people strung up for the next round of guillotining.

What far right policy views do you believe I hold, and can you support your assertions in any way whatsoever?
Click to expand...
So the quote that @johnny karate just posted is fabricated? It sure doesn't seem to be the case. You can click the little up-arrow and it will go directly to the post where you said the quote.

Or perhaps I was hallucinating when I observed you dismissing criticism with the time-honored "anyone who's not a communist is far-right to you", right?

Or, maybe your account has been hacked. Shall we contact the administrators to let them know someone has posted some absurd nonsense posing as you. Personally, I'd be rather miffed if anyone made me look that foolish.

Or maybe, just maybe, you can start being honest and take accountability for your actions. (I think this one is so unlikely that it's below the hallucination theory)
 
arthwollipot said:
It's working.

Morale is plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports
Click to expand...
I bet morale is plummeting.
I have no problem with the Immigration laws being enforced; they are on the books and those in the country illegally are subject to deportation. It is the freaking brutal way the laws are being enforced I object to.
That and the obvious bias in the enforcement. There are quite a few illegal immigrants from Europe....particulary Eastern Europe..but I not seeing many of them deported. It is all about getting rid of people with Brown and BLack Skins.
 
Emily's Cat said:
No, you expressed opinions and baseless assertions.

Seriously, if all it takes to be permanently labeled "far right" is to not that the only people killed during Jan 6 were protesters, and that the property damage done was inconsequential and not really worth mentioning... then pretty much the wrong kind of sneeze will get people strung up for the next round of guillotining.

What far right policy views do you believe I hold, and can you support your assertions in any way whatsoever?
Click to expand...
It's against the rules here to call people out, but I will point out that your oft stated views on LGBTQ rights, gun rights, voter ID requirements, public health initiatives, and publicly run healthcare are all very far right. At the end of the day, partisans are irrational.

edited to add a link to you actually calling yourself a conservative 10 years ago: https://internationalskeptics.com/f...tives-and-why-it-matters.314786/post-11627843
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom