Sir Kier Starmer Elected Labour Leader

P.J. Denyer said:
Well, Tony Blair.
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This is what I wonder about this moment in time. Given that even the Daily Mail seem to have turned on Johnson in the last week or two due to his handling of the coronavirus crisis (the NHS shambles in particular), and that Starmer seems like a new direction for the Labour party (and is a lot more centrist than Corbyn), I wonder whether the press might actually start to favour Starmer in the way they did with Blair. If he plays his cards right and Johnson continues to be, well, Johnson then I think it's at least a possibility.

Of course, whether that would last until the next election would be a very different question.
 
Well, Michael foot was a kgb agent who wrote the longest suicide note in history . Corbyn was an anti-west terrorist sympathizer. Tony Blair was relatively sensible and moderate.

That Blair didn’t get monstered by the press while the other two did, might simply show that the press is doing their job.
 
Giz said:
Well, Michael foot was a kgb agent who wrote the longest suicide note in history . Corbyn was an anti-west terrorist sympathizer. Tony Blair was relatively sensible and moderate.

That Blair didn’t get monstered by the press while the other two did, might simply show that the press is doing their job.
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Nothing to do with Sunday lunches and pony riding with Rebekah Brooks at all. The allegation about Michael Foot is quite funny seeing as one British Party Leader is actually holding back a security report into Russian interference into our democracy, haven't heard much about that for months, even at the time it was a remarkably low key story.
 
Garrison said:
Problem is that answer in this case would be, yes, and? Starmer supports a number of the socialist policies that seemed to resonate with people even as Jeremy Corbyn repelled voters on a personal level.
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Does this mean that Labor will finally remember that it is a Left party and not a "slightly less Right" party?
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Yeah, that's the thing. You can list Labour policies and have 'the reasonable man on the Clapham omnibus' agree with every single one. Then confirm that, yes, they will vote Tory.
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So, basically, you are saying the British electorate has caught the "American virus"?
 
Trebuchet said:
Has there ever been a Labour PM who took office with a pregnant girlfriend?
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It's funny isn't it, generally the Daily Mail etc have quite strong feelings about people who are born in a foreign country, come over here and father multiple children on different women then live in house paid for by the tax payer.:rolleyes:
 
Giz said:
Well, Michael foot was a kgb agent who wrote the longest suicide note in history . Corbyn was an anti-west terrorist sympathizer. Tony Blair was relatively sensible and moderate.

That Blair didn’t get monstered by the press while the other two did, might simply show that the press is doing their job.
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Ah, the old Michael Foot thing...Any info on that other than Gordievsky's book, which was serialised in which paper, run by whom? To whom Blair had to sell what was left of his soul in order to escape the same sort of treatment...

You kinda prove my point...
 
Giz said:
Well, Michael foot was a kgb agent ...
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This would be the same Michael Foot who successfully sued the Sunday Times over said allegations. Allegations for which no new evidence has appeared in the 30+ years since then, contrary to what Charles Moore likes to think.
 
Starmer looks like a good solid leader for the party. The press won't need to invent anything. Momentum are probably going to do that for them in a fight for grass-roots control.
 
Mikemcc said:
Starmer looks like a good solid leader for the party. The press won't need to invent anything. Momentum are probably going to do that for them in a fight for grass-roots control.
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Starmer also took control of the NEC and he won handily among the ordinary party members, including those who took the opportunity to sign up before the leadership election. I think Momentum has pretty much run out of, well momentum.
 
jeremyp said:
You parodied an accusation that was specifically levelled at Jeremy Corbyn. If you didn't want people to assume you meant him, tough. You should have written something else.
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I actually parodied two attacks, one parodying attacks on Corbin, one parodying attacks on Miliban. That you have little knowledge of attacks on labour leaders does not mean your conclusion was correct.
 
Darat said:
I actually parodied two attacks, one parodying attacks on Corbin, one parodying attacks on Miliban. That you have little knowledge of attacks on labour leaders does not mean your conclusion was correct.
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As was clear to everyone, yet you simply had to remind others that this thread was not about Corbyn.
 
lionking said:
As was clear to everyone, yet you simply had to remind others that this thread was not about Corbyn.
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But his point was clearly not about Corbyn, but about Labour leaders in general, by including an attack that was directed on his predecessor.
 
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