Sir Kier Starmer Elected Labour Leader

How long before we learn that he once was at a function in which someone who had once met someone from Palestine who was the cousin twice removed of someone who had a parking ticket was also at the function?

And his father once said something that wasn’t 100% negative about Stalin?
 
Darat said:
How long before we learn that he once was at a function in which someone who had once met someone from Palestine who was the cousin twice removed of someone who had a parking ticket was also at the function?

And his father once said something that wasn’t 100% negative about Stalin?
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The Mail on Sunday, tomorrow?
 
Darat said:
How long before we learn that he once was at a function in which someone who had once met someone from Palestine who was the cousin twice removed of someone who had a parking ticket was also at the function?

And his father once said something that wasn’t 100% negative about Stalin?
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Here in the USA, the party in power would simply scream "Socialist" at the top of its lungs. But by their standards, BoJo is a socialist.
 
Darat said:
How long before we learn that he once was at a function in which someone who had once met someone from Palestine who was the cousin twice removed of someone who had a parking ticket was also at the function?

And his father once said something that wasn’t 100% negative about Stalin?
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It's the UK. I think revelations that he once dressed up in Nazi regalia "as a joke", or helped to cover up a child prostitution ring, are more likely.
 
theprestige said:
It's the UK. I think revelations that he once dressed up in Nazi regalia "as a joke", or helped to cover up a child prostitution ring, are more likely.
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It's the UK: Darat was on the nail, given a lot of meejah coverage of Corbyn, J. Not that he isn't a numpty anyway, just not necessarily in the ways he was painted by the meejah.
 
GlennB said:
The Mail on Sunday, tomorrow?
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I'm sure they had pre-written smear articles to cover every possible result. Ditto the Torygraph, well they need something to fill the pages since Rees-Mogg was told to shut up and keep his head down.
 
Trebuchet said:
Here in the USA, the party in power would simply scream "Socialist" at the top of its lungs. But by their standards, BoJo is a socialist.
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Problem is that answer in this case would be, yes, and? Starmer supports a number of the socialist policies that seemed to resonate with people even as Jeremy Corbyn repelled voters on a personal level.
 
Garrison said:
Problem is that answer in this case would be, yes, and? Starmer supports a number of the socialist policies that seemed to resonate with people even as Jeremy Corbyn repelled voters on a personal level.
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Yeah, that's the thing. You can list Labour policies and have 'the reasonable man on the Clapham omnibus' agree with every single one. Then confirm that, yes, they will vote Tory.
 
Darat said:
How long before we learn that he once was at a function in which someone who had once met someone from Palestine who was the cousin twice removed of someone who had a parking ticket was also at the function?

And his father once said something that wasn’t 100% negative about Stalin?
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Too funny. Corby spoke at hate rallies, laid wreaths on terrorists, etc etc... and when the media report it, you cover your eyes.

You do Labour no favours with your partisan spin. Labour needs to be clear that they lost for a reason so that they don’t make the same mistake again.

The main opposition party being unelectable isn’t healthy for a country, please don’t encourage it.
 
Giz said:
Too funny. Corby spoke at hate rallies, laid wreaths on terrorists, etc etc... and when the media report it, you cover your eyes.



You do Labour no favours with your partisan spin. Labour needs to be clear that they lost for a reason so that they don’t make the same mistake again.



The main opposition party being unelectable isn’t healthy for a country, please don’t encourage it.
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Er.. This isnt about Jeremy Corbin.
 
Giz said:
Too funny. Corby spoke at hate rallies, laid wreaths on terrorists, etc etc... and when the media report it, you cover your eyes.

You do Labour no favours with your partisan spin. Labour needs to be clear that they lost for a reason so that they don’t make the same mistake again.

The main opposition party being unelectable isn’t healthy for a country, please don’t encourage it.
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True, and I have said this about Jeremy Corbyn before, that whatever kinds of smears the right-wing billionaire press said about Corbyn, the truth was bad enough, and I have been told that an academic study was done that revealed I was in false consciousness, or something, and that I could only believe what I did because of what the awful evil right-wing press said about Corbyn.

So, I looked into the study and found that if I were a reader of the Express, or the Mail, or the Telegraph then I certainly would have found a lot of negative press about him.

It happens, that I never read those publications, but the only one that I do regularly read that appeared in the study was the Guardian, which according to the same study was fairly balanced about Corbyn.

That said, Corbyn was a thoroughly terrible leader as evidenced by the fact that his cabinets were regularly falling apart, who lost the confidence of his parliamentary party, and even lost his deputy leader on the eve of a general election, and he offered little clarity on the burning issue of the day - Brexit, apparently put up very little of a show of opposing Brexit during the referendum debate and campaign (and maybe didn't oppose it given, yes, his past which was vehemently anti-EU, but was clear that the referendum result must be honoured, but maybe only after negotiating a better deal, which he may oppose himself, but only after another referendum, or something).

Maybe I only think that because of what the Express, the Mail and the Telegraph wrote about him.

Then again, maybe Darat was talking about Ed Miliband, who was dragged through the mud because of something his dad said, and therefore probably loves Stalin and hates Britain, unlike his brother who was a thoroughly upstanding chap.
 
I haven't been following the leadership contest that closely, but it's been obvious for a while it'd be Starmer. From what little I've seen he seems like a good choice with the potential to lead the party and country in a good direction. My preference (again, based on what little I know) would have been for Nandy, but I'm not at all unhappy about Starmer.

He seems like a sensible chap who is good at getting a point across, so let's hope that as the opposition leader during the current times he manages to strike the right balance between working with the Tories to best safeguard the health of the nation and standing up to them. And I mean getting the balance right both in terms of actually facilitating good policy and in the eyes of the public.
 
Darat said:
Er no it wasn’t, it was about how the press treat all labour leaders.
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Billionaire, tax exile press owners hate the idea of a move to the left. It's a given. The further left the more smearing. You can probably draw a graph with Micheal on one side and Tony on the other.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Imagine how the press would react if a Labour PM refused to release a report into Russian interference into our democracy.......
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Or generally had behaved the way a certain Mr Johnson has for many, many years...

I can't recall a Labour leader who didn't get a monstering from Her Majesty's Loyal Media. Mebbe John Smith, but only because he wasn't actually leader for very long...
 
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