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Simple question...What do YOU believe?

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I was just wondering what everyone's beliefs around here are. Put simply, mine are that people should be able to believe what they want to believe, whatever the belief is. And that you should follow your heart in the decisons you make in your life. And also that you don't harm others physically(there are exceptions I know. but in general, there is nothing wrong with this) or mentally(through words and such. But this also has exceptions because constructive chritisism(spelling?) never hurt anybody, at least not a mature person.) So when it comes down to these exceptions, that is where following your heart would come in. Following your heart and being honest to yourself(not doing what your heart doesnt believe because you are going to go to "hell" when you die) will make your life a lot smoother.
This is just a simple question that if you are honest to yourself shouldn't be hard to answer.
 
Hey J3K

I was just wondering what everyone's beliefs around here are.
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I am a Logical Deist myself.

Put simply, mine are that people should be able to believe what they want to believe, whatever the belief is. And that you should follow your heart in the decisons you make in your life.
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It sounds like you believe in the sanctity of Individuality. So do I.

And also that you don't harm others physically(there are exceptions I know. but in general, there is nothing wrong with this) or mentally(through words and such. But this also has exceptions because constructive chritisism(spelling?) never hurt anybody, at least not a mature person.) So when it comes down to these exceptions, that is where following your heart would come in.
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What you are stating is essentially the tenets of Karma.

If you cause harm to another (or conversely benefit another) eventually it will be reflected (return) back to you.

Following your heart and being honest to yourself(not doing what your heart doesnt believe because you are going to go to "hell" when you die.)
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It’s a cold hard fact that there are negative consequences for negative thoughts and actions. Disbelieving that there are consequences for your actions isn’t going to change this Fact.

This is just a simple question that if you are honest to yourself shouldn't be hard to answer.
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If you cannot be honest with yourself, then you won’t be able to be honest with anyone. And as a Graviton your worth can be directly measured by the degree to which you can be honest with yourself.
 
As for the Karma thing. I don't believe what you do will come back to you. Good or Bad. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
I never said your actions didn't have consequences, so what was your point of saying this? If it is just part of your belief, aight then. I just dont know if it was this or if you were responding to that quote of me, and if so, I never said you didnt have consequences for your actions, so you saying this makes no sense to me.
 
J3K said:
As for the Karma thing. I don't believe what you do will come back to you. Good or Bad. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
I never said your actions didn't have consequences, so what was your point of saying this? If it is just part of your belief, aight then. I just dont know if it was this or if you were responding to that quote of me, and if so, I never said you didnt have consequences for your actions, so you saying this makes no sense to me.
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Before you get too worked up over Franko, J3K, have a look at this list of things Franko believes (some of them have links). Franko has, shall we say, a history here.
 
lol. I wasnt getting worked up. I have read some posts about Franko. He just says things that are so off the wall and dont apply to what he applies them too. It's fun to ask him about some of his responses.
 
As for the Karma thing. I don't believe what you do will come back to you. Good or Bad. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
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Try running every red light you come to. See how long you can do this for before your Karma catches up to you.

I never said your actions didn't have consequences, so what was your point of saying this? If it is just part of your belief, aight then. I just dont know if it was this or if you were responding to that quote of me, and if so, I never said you didnt have consequences for your actions, so you saying this makes no sense to me.
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A-Theists do not believe in ultimate consequences for their actions. Entities who do not believe in consequences for their actions behave exactly as if they do not believe in consequences for their actions. This is why A-Theists are less moral than non-A-theists. (take a look at Trixy if you have any doubts.)
 
J3K said:
lol. I wasnt getting worked up. I have read some posts about Franko. He just says things that are so off the wall and dont apply to what he applies them too. It's fun to ask him about some of his responses.
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Well then, enjoy! He is fun to bait.:D
 
Here is a summary of Tricky and my 1 year+ discussion.

What is your evidence for the existence of “free will”?
Tricky, 30+ years dedicated to A-Theism: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe in “free will” anyway!

What is your evidence for the non-existence of “god”?
Trixy, 30+ years dedicated to A-Theism: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe there is NO “god”, and anyone who believes otherwise is a credulous Theist moron!

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What is your evidence for the non-existence of “free will”?
Franko, Logical Deist: Atoms obey TLOP; You are made of Atoms; YOU OBEY TLOP!

What is your evidence for the existence of “god”?
Franko, Logical Deist: TLOP (“god”) makes/controls YOU makes/controls CAR.
In the same way that YOU are more conscious then a CAR, TLOP is more conscious then YOU.
 
I believe in showing politeness and consideration to others. To listen to each individual. To make your own mind up not do what the vast majority say you should.

I also believe many things cannot be explained.

I do not believe gossips or rumor mongers, I believe you should give the benefit of doubt to everybody regardless of what everybody else says.

I believe religion is up to each individual to believe in, and others should respect their choice not ridicule it.

I have a fascination for voodooism.;)


The Raven.
 
Just got done running 10 red lights. I did finally get caught, you are right Franko. But I only got caught for the 10th one, so what happened with the other 9? Like I said SOMETIMES things come back around, SOMETIMES they dont.
And being atheist doesn't mean I am less "moral" than a person who believes otherwise. Well actually, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Depends on whether the word moral being dicussed has religion connected to it, or is just how good one is and caring(which is how I like to think about it.)(that was also not a perfect definition of moral without religion acctached. I just hope you can use common sense to get the overall meaning for that simple definition.)
Man Franko, you are fun. But I am tired so I will go take a nap. Have fun making up nonsense responses to what I say. Just try to have a point and not dive off into something else. Like the consequence thing earlier. Although that did bring up a fun discussion.
 
I believe I'll have a drink. Some Jim Beam on the rocks to be more specific.
 
I believe that I am damn lucky to be here. I believe that I have said this before. And when summer gets here, I believe that I will go fishing.
 
I believe that COBOL should be structured as an interlocked series of Haiku.

Wait - didn't I say that on the other side of the record?
 
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Try running every red light you come to. See how long you can do this for before your Karma catches up to you.
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Hi Franko,

But is that Karma or just statistics at work? Doesn't the notion of Karma effectively say that you'll necessarily reap what you sow due to some cosmic reason? I don't really know anything about it, just what I've kind of heard in passing.

Is it Karma that eventually the police man will eventually be sitting there waiting for me or that I'll run into someone else or is this just probability in action?



A-Theists do not believe in ultimate consequences for their actions. Entities who do not believe in consequences for their actions behave exactly as if they do not believe in consequences for their actions. This is why A-Theists are less moral than non-A-theists. (take a look at Trixy if you have any doubts.)
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I would disagree with you on principle here in that you are claiming some universe truth about atheists. I've met many folks who are atheists who are considerably better human beings than their theistic counterparts. I don't believe that consequences should be the test for whether or not one does or doesn't do something. There may be advantages or repercussions to some behavior or action, but I trust that many people are not motivated by the possibility of being "whacked by the cosmic paddle" for doing something. Personally, I try to evaluate whether it makes sense to do something, ask myself if I'd be hurting anyone by doing it, and then decide based on the answers I give to those questions.

Just my thoughts.

Take care,
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Oh yeah...

I think that there are more questions than answers, that we cannot be sure there is a god.

I think that the history of the Christian church and early Biblical writings are interesting and I want to understand why people hold the beliefs that they do.

I think that most anything is possible but many things are not probable.

I think there are some interesting individuals that inhabit this forum and I enjoy the discussions. Occasionally, I learn something.

Take care,
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