Siesmic Evidence Proves Inside Job?

[Loss Leader]

you should be happy i even read the second one with the title "Bombs in the WTC Buildings Proves Nothing to Racist-Fascist Bigots" i almost didnt

It was written by Ed Ward, MD. It might be worth the time to look into which state he's licensed in. His state medical board's ethics policies might have something to say about his writings. He also claims to be on the Board of Advisors of the Men's Health Network. They might like an email informing them of whom they have working with them.

 

[R.Mackey]

Hey Gravy, if you haven't already, check out the link that Arkan found.

The graphs are even better. And it shows the source of the ~16 second error in their computation.

They read the ruddy graph wrong. They didn't plug in the event time, they plugged in the time marker at the left edge of each segment. The chart they cribbed their numbers from listed the segment times, not the actual event times. I'm sure they talked to LDEO in person to make sure they got everything right, and correctly represented LDEO's results...

Is there a such thing as an anti-Nobel prize? I think we have a shoo-in..

 

[Brainache]

Here's your order for accounts of explosions. Are all you shills happy now?

I didn't think so! (You all are so plastic.)

LOL

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060118104223192
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/08/21/ward.htm

Understanding is a fountain of life to one who has it,
But the discipline of fools is folly.

Proverbs 16:22

So correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you talking about explosions before the planes struck the towers? Not just as the towers were collapsing?

The guys in the basement seem to be talking about a fuel air explosion like what might happen from lots of jet fuel pouring down lift wells(elevator shafts).

 

[Dog Town]

Next time I see you, remind me not to talk to you.
Groucho Marx

My fave;

And I want to thank you for all the enjoyment you've taken out of it.

 

[Dog Town]

Is there a such thing as an anti-Nobel prize?

Hell... there should be! CTers have decades of awards, at the least!

 

[Gravy]

Hey Gravy, if you haven't already, check out the link that Arkan found.

The graphs are even better. And it shows the source of the ~16 second error in their computation.

They read the ruddy graph wrong. They didn't plug in the event time, they plugged in the time marker at the left edge of each segment. The chart they cribbed their numbers from listed the segment times, not the actual event times. I'm sure they talked to LDEO in person to make sure they got everything right, and correctly represented LDEO's results...

Oh, I didn't see that! Okay, quick, let me add another: what's your excuse now?

Is there a such thing as an anti-Nobel prize? I think we have a shoo-in..

Sort of.

I'm definitely going to take nominations and have a year-end award ceremony for this foolishness. So far, it looks like most of the nominees will be "Scholars" papers. I'll have to come up with a bunch of other categories.

 

[Dog Town]

I'll have to come up with a bunch of other categories.

I'll take" Crazy With a Christophera" for a thousand, Alex!

 

[defaultdotxbe]

you can quote groucho marx on anything, lol

TS1234 on the NIST report:

Why a four-year-old child could understand this report. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it.

CTers in general:

Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?

Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted.

"stand down"

Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms.

 

[Dog Town]

Military intelligence

Jumbo Shrimp?!?

 

[Senor_Pointy]

Jumbo Shrimp?!?

Minor Catastrophe?

 

[R.Mackey]

Scholar for Truth?

I mean, really, is there a such thing as a "Scholar for Falsehood?"

 

[Dog Town]

Minor Catastrophe?

Lazy Mexican!

 

[uruk]

I was doing some looking around and found out that time discrepancies can and do happen in siezmic data.
According to this site the LDEO uses the CNG-5TD strong motion accelerometers.
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/intro.html

According to thier data sheet:

http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/News/CMG-5TD_rev2.pdf#search="CMG-5TD"

The sensors use GPS time not UTC. (See page 15 in the link to the manual for proof that the sensors are synced to GPS and not directly to UTC)

And there is a 13 second time difference between GPS and UTC.
According to NIST who oversees UTC :
http://tf.nist.gov/service/acts.htm

"GPS time differs from UTC by the integer number of leap seconds that have occurred since the GPS time scale begam on January 6, 1980. This difference equaled 13 seconds at the end of 2004.The integer-second difference is included in the GPS broadcast message, and is usually applied automatically so that GPS clocks display the same hours, minutes, and seconds as UTC clocks." (that is unless somebody makes an error in setting up the equipment)

Here's the manual for the CNG-5TD:
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/News/CMG-5TD_Manual_rev_B.pdf#search="CMG-5TD"
on page 21 you see a statement that the synchonizaton to a time standard has to selected.
So there is a possiblity that an installer may have set a wrong option. and the time discrepancy deemed incosequential because the relative difficulty or distance in returning to the sensor site.

As a matter of fact this does occur at times.
This report shows that a systematic timing drift can occur in the CNG-5TD if a power setting in the GPS reciever is incorrectly set.

http://www.ess.washington.edu/SEIS/PNSN/REPTS/Quarterly2003A.pdf#search="CMG-5TD problems"
See page 3 paragraph 3

http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/20010911_WTC/WTC_LDEO_KIM.pdf
The chart shows UTC, but the sensors use GPS. So there had to be a conversion going on; probably in the software used to analyse the data.
And if is a timing drift going on in the sensor you will get a time discrepancy. I'm not saying that is what happened. But there is a definit possibility for it to happen

 

[Gravy]

I was doing some looking around and found out that time discrepancies can and do happen in siezmic data.

Facts, schmacts, uruk. You're forgetting that when a paper is co-authored by a Scholar Forsooth, and peer-reviewed by my 13-year-old grandson, it is by default true.

There is a time to tuck your head between your legs
And kiss your credibility goodbye.
Ecclesisassies 13:13

Adios, muchachos! No kidding this time!

–iquicklyfled

 

[uruk]

Yea well, We gotta be the iresistable force to thier immovable deep hatred for America.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

unstoppable force:

unmovable object:

WHO WILL WIN???

 

[Dog Town]

Juggie, the Blob's a woo-see!

 

[Kent1]

Facts, schmacts, uruk. You're forgetting that when a paper is co-authored by a Scholar Forsooth, and peer-reviewed by my 13-year-old grandson, it is by default true.

There is a time to tuck your head between your legs
And kiss your credibility goodbye.
Ecclesisassies 13:13

Adios, muchachos! No kidding this time!

–iquicklyfled

Don't you know yet? We're 98% government shill and totally dishonest.
http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=7444&st=3720

Oh, and Sgt Lauro Chavez has a very high probability rating of being genuine......

 

[Bell]

I know I am.

 

[twinstead]

...and nutritionally part of a well-balanced breakfast...